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Vet Could Lose Home For Displaying Small US Flag In Front Yard
CBS Tampa ^

Posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1

JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (CBS Tampa) – A veteran could lose his home because of a small American flag he has placed in a flower pot in front of his home.

(Excerpt) Read more at tampa.cbslocal.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: display; fl; flag; florida; hoa; home; oldglory; vet
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1 posted on 06/27/2014 6:06:29 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

I don’t care. He’s an idiot. He signed onto that neighborhood and as I understand it there are ways he is allowed to display the flag. Next he’ll want to display faded plastic flowers and whirligigs. Then we’ll start putting out dozens of naked plastic baby dolls like a weirdo in my community.


2 posted on 06/27/2014 6:08:41 AM PDT by Mercat
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To: Mercat

Oh Lord we have one of those.

I tend to agree with you. Just because you are waving a flag, etc. doesn’t mean you don’t have to follow the rules. They aren’t draconian. There is nothing wrong with them. And while I am no fan of Homeowners Associations you live there, and you need to follow the regs.


3 posted on 06/27/2014 6:10:35 AM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: Mercat
Did you see this part?

““I want it to go away. It’s such a minor little thing and they keep coming after me,” Murphree told WAWS. “They just sent me a letter that says I owe them around $8,000 and they put a foreclosure lien on my house.”

4 posted on 06/27/2014 6:10:55 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Mercat

Free the Pink Flamingos.


5 posted on 06/27/2014 6:10:57 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Enlightened1
HOAs are evil. If you don't want to obey the rules of an evil HOA don't purchase property subject to an evil HOA. By purchasing property subject to an evil HOA you are saying you will obey the evil HOA. Did I mention that HOAs are evil?
6 posted on 06/27/2014 6:11:27 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Enlightened1

Becoming a member of an HOA community is basically indentured servitude. I would NEVER advise “buying” one of these properties - EVER. (Because you don’t really own it.)


7 posted on 06/27/2014 6:13:18 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: RIghtwardHo
I don't think a Vet should loose his home because he put 1 small American flag in a flower pot....

You know that's overkill by an over zealous HOA. The guy has 30 days to pay 8k or he will lose his home.

Good grief that's ridiculous!

8 posted on 06/27/2014 6:15:38 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: fwdude

This is a scam....the HOA responded to the first press comment and noted it had nothing to do with the flag. It had to do with his not paying his association monthly assessments according to them.

Their argument seems logical to me.


9 posted on 06/27/2014 6:16:05 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Mercat

-——whirligigs——

Ahh whirligigs. My neighbor seems obsessed with them. At first they seemed tasteful, but with the increasing number tasteless.

It seems that when going to buy them, perhaps three must be purchased. But lo, there are different sizes and different colors and soon....... there are whirligigs everywhere.

Fortunately, July is coming and with it thunderstorms and high winds.


10 posted on 06/27/2014 6:16:15 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... Obama is public enemy #1)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I once worked for an HOA management company, and I agree with you that HOA's are evil. But people who buy into them are culpable for, of their own free will, selling their property rights and freedom for a little security and uniformity. It's not worth it.

I can't tell you how many people go into these purchase deals absolutely blind to all that is involved, and then become shocked when they have to pay dues and follow the often stringent rules. One girl called not knowing that she had to pay dues, several thousand dollars per year. It made her home purchase unaffordable.

11 posted on 06/27/2014 6:17:29 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Paladin2

Can we stop with the fake wells while we’re at it? We have owners around the corner who think it is cute to keep a skeleton hanging by the front door throughout the year. They dress it up differently for each season. It was never funny, but apparently the joke never ever gets old for them. We get it.


12 posted on 06/27/2014 6:17:51 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: Enlightened1
You know that's overkill by an over zealous HOA. The guy has 30 days to pay 8k or he will lose his home.

Good grief that's ridiculous!

But it's all in writing, signed by the homeowner. Sorry, but if contracts are to mean anything in this nation, we have to begin to honor them, even when they seem unfair.

Language in HOA contracts is very specific and unambiguous. Otherwise, these communities would have no leg to stand on.

13 posted on 06/27/2014 6:20:26 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Mercat; All
He signed onto that neighborhood and as I understand it there are ways he is allowed to display the flag.

NERDY HALL MONITOR ALERT.

Everyone, let's tackle him and give him a Wedgie!

14 posted on 06/27/2014 6:23:21 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: bert

Actually, I’ve heard that whirligigs breed and multiply in the night. Whirligigs infestations are common in condo complexes.


15 posted on 06/27/2014 6:23:44 AM PDT by super7man
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To: Mouton

I know that the HOA is probably on solid ground here. I’m just addressing the issue of HOA’s in general. They are on the deed of homes as the owners if the homeowner breaks the rules, and can eventually foreclose on the home if violations are not remedied.


16 posted on 06/27/2014 6:23:51 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude
I can't tell you how many people go into these purchase deals absolutely blind to all that is involved, and then become shocked when they have to pay dues and follow the often stringent rules.

That's pretty understandable actually. Around here the HOAs will not let you see the agreement until you are at the closing. It's pretty much too late at that point to turn back. We walked away from a couple of properties because I wasn't going to get myself in that position.

17 posted on 06/27/2014 6:28:29 AM PDT by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Straight Vermonter

Then you are one of the smart ones. Most people have no business assuming the responsibility of home ownership if they won’t even read the controlling documents.


18 posted on 06/27/2014 6:30:42 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude

No problem with your comments, I was addressing he headline.

I just got into a spat with mine, I had to remove about 8 dangerous diseased trees near my residence and was noted by the HOA that I had violated the CandRs by not getting approval from the architectural board before doing that. My response is I don’t see the connection between removing trees and architectural changes beyond the fact had these trees fell on my home I would have a remodel resulting in rubble. No answer yet to my comment.

In almost all developments here these days, HOAs are mandatory due to requirments to maintain water run off and to accomodate “state and county land use standards”. Unfortunately, as you and others note, these frequently become the vehicles where petty individuals decide to become lord and kings.


19 posted on 06/27/2014 6:37:21 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Enlightened1
Florida statute 720.304 section 2a states that “Any homeowner may display one portable, removable United States flag…in a respectful manner…not larger than 4 1/2 feet by 6 feet…regardless of any covenants, restrictions, bylaws, rules, or requirements of the [homeowners'] association.”

http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/news/local/veteran-may-lose-home-over-flag-fight/ngRCt/

20 posted on 06/27/2014 6:37:46 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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