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Bosnian Serbs unveil statue honoring Archduke Ferdunand's assassin
American Thinker ^ | 6/28/2014 | Rick Moran

Posted on 06/28/2014 5:46:34 AM PDT by markomalley

This is pretty bizarre - even for the Balkans.

Bosnian Serbs unveiled a statue yesterday honoring Gavrilo Princip, the teenager who pulled the trigger in Sarajevo 100 years ago today killing Archduke Ferdinand - heir to the throne of the Hapsburg Empire - and his wife. The event touched off a series of blunders, misjudgements, and misadventures that culminated in the great powers stumbling into a war that few of them wanted and none could foresee the consequences for.

By the time the dust settled in November, 1918, the Hapsburg and Ottoman Empires had disintegrated, Russia had gone Communist, and Germany, Great Britain, and France had been bled white. Nearly 40 million died, both soldiers and non-combatants. Ands yet, the man who is largely responsible for starting the conflict is honored as a hero?

You have to be pretty obtuse to ignore the massive bloodletting and celebrate the national impulses that drove Princip and his Clown Car Posse of hapless conspirators to carry out their shocking murders.

Associated Press:

Marking the eve of the centennial of the beginning of World War I, Bosnian Serbs on Friday unveiled a monument in Sarajevo to the man who ignited the war by assassinating the Austro-Hungarian crown prince on June 28, 1914.

At the other end of the city, the Vienna Philharmonic orchestra was rehearsing for Saturday’s grand EU-sponsored performance, planned as a symbolic start of a new century of peace at the place where decades of war in Europe started 100 years ago.


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1 posted on 06/28/2014 5:46:34 AM PDT by markomalley
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To: markomalley

Typical of the Serbs.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 5:49:52 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: markomalley; GOPsterinMA; GeronL; MeganC; 2ndDivisionVet; LucyT; GraceG; cripplecreek; trisham; ...
Since I am 100% European Heritage, Both sides of my Family Faced each other in The Great War.

One for King of Great Britain, the other for the Kaiser of the German Empire.

We stupid Europeans have been doing this crap for 4,000 Years.

As this song proves its a waste to what they are facing now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc56moy0poA

To save Europe during the Two World Wars they had to call on their Expelled sons that were sent to America, Canada, Australia, New Zealand or South Africa to save them.

3 posted on 06/28/2014 5:57:32 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: yldstrk
Opps!

Ping to Post 3 Dearest yldstrk!

4 posted on 06/28/2014 6:00:10 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: markomalley

WWI was the great self-destructive horror of Western Civilization from which neither the West nor Christianity have ever recovered. To celebrate the humanoid monster that started it is the depth of obscenity.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 6:14:48 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: markomalley

Its as if the Romans erected a statue of Attila the Hun That man began the destruction of European civilization.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 6:17:43 AM PDT by allendale
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To: KC_Lion

“... their Expelled sons that were sent to America...”

KC_Lion, I don’t think the Americans were “sxpelled” from Great Britain...It was the other way around...The Revolutionary War expelled Great Britain from the United States of America...

BTW, I am Ani-Yun-Wiya and Scots/Irish...(Look it up if you don’t know)


7 posted on 06/28/2014 6:20:57 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: libstripper

If the Christian West didn’t recover from the first war, it certainly didn’t recover from the second which was a direct result of the first. How many millions did Princip kill with those two shots?

And the irony is the Ferdinand was far from being an oppressor of the Balkan peoples. He would have given them expanded rights and representation as Emperor.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 6:21:12 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarc tag?)
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To: JW1949
Well, not just the USA.

Remember Australia started out as a Penal Colony.

9 posted on 06/28/2014 6:22:06 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: KC_Lion

>> As this song proves its a waste to what they are facing now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fc56moy0poA

The message of the song is nearly obscured by the musicians jumping around like a bunch of pre-teen rock-n-roll band wannabees in daddy’s garage. Hopefully someone will dump the horrid visuals and replace it with archival footage.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 6:23:10 AM PDT by QBFimi (/...o.o/.o...ooo/...o.o...o/ooo/...o.o/.o/ooo.//o..o./. o.)
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To: KC_Lion

Thank you so much KC_Lion


11 posted on 06/28/2014 6:27:33 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: KC_Lion

USA: BACK-2-BACK WORLD WAR WINNERS!!!


12 posted on 06/28/2014 6:31:35 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: KC_Lion

Yes, Australia began as a penal colony with “expelled” British criminals...and, just as Canada, remains in close cousinship with Great Britain...

The United States, as I previously said, began with people wanting something different than a monarchy.

They achieved this through revolution and cast out the monarchy of Great Britain.

Great Britain did NOT “expell sons” to America...America expelled Great Britain.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 6:42:25 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: KC_Lion

Much better video (lyrics with no teeny bopper antics):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QlVrt-gTWoU


14 posted on 06/28/2014 6:47:16 AM PDT by QBFimi (/...o.o/.o...ooo/...o.o...o/ooo/...o.o/.o/ooo.//o..o./. o.)
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To: KC_Lion

“... for Australia bound, if we didn’t all drown, the marks of our fetters we carried...”

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=abUcSurYjYw


15 posted on 06/28/2014 6:49:40 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: QBFimi
Lyrics with no graphics. Globus - Europa (Lyrics)
16 posted on 06/28/2014 6:56:24 AM PDT by Islander7 (There is no septic system so vile, so filthy, the left won't drink from to further their agenda)
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To: markomalley

What began as a religious war, kind of like the Crimean war.

Orthodox assassinates Catholic. Orthodox Serbs feel oppressed, call on Mother Russia for help. Russia mobilizes, Germany declares war on Russia.

And the grandchildren of Queen Victoria slug it out with each other, and manage to get the USA involved, even though Woodrow Wilson was re-elected on a platform of “HE KEPT US OUT OF WAR!”


17 posted on 06/28/2014 6:58:45 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: allendale

No. Attila the Hun was really far preferable to this assassin. Atilla has been given a bad rap by historians.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 7:12:10 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: GOPsterinMA

USA: BACK-2-BACK WORLD WAR WINNERS!!!

Wait!!

Think about it. We did not “win” WWI: just tipped the balance a bit at the very end. And when one considers the result, we surely did not attain our stated goal: a “world safe for democracy.” Instead, out of WWI came the Soviet Union, and eventually Hitler. Some victory!

We clearly lost WWII. The winner was Stalin, who conquered Eastern Europe, and just a few years later the communists took over China, the largest country in the world. We may have fought well, but we certainly did not “win” that war.

The United States has not won a major war since the Spanish-American War, which was probably totally unnecessary, anyway. We did win the mini-war in Antigua under Reagan, which was short enough that we could hold out for the victory.

It may come as a shock, but we are not a war-winning country. Certainly not now!!

The clearest victory we ever had was in the war with Mexico. Then we were out-numbered in every single battle, and yet did not lose a single one. But in today’s comparison, we cannot even get the Mexicans to release a lone American soldier from jail. We let them overfly our border, and they “invade” by the millions. We are not even alert enough to stop large busses of illegal immigrants from calmly driving across the boarder full of whole families of illegal aliens. We don’t even have any effective military presence, and not even effective border agents.

And our rulers are mostly jerks.

So please spare me the rah-rah stuff.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 7:29:24 AM PDT by docbnj
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To: docbnj

“So please spare me the rah-rah stuff.”

Who TF are you? Self appointed content manager? Was my comment directed to you?


20 posted on 06/28/2014 7:35:02 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: GOPsterinMA

And from which we haven’t won a war since.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 7:43:06 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: GOPsterinMA

Obama will ensure there is no threepeat.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 7:48:16 AM PDT by deadrock (I am someone else.)
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To: henkster
And the irony is the Ferdinand was far from being an oppressor of the Balkan peoples. He would have given them expanded rights and representation as Emperor.

...which would have diminished the attractiveness of the extremists, who wanted even more than "rights and representation," and who therefore assassinated him.

Regards,

23 posted on 06/28/2014 7:49:15 AM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: onedoug

And your point is interloper?


24 posted on 06/28/2014 7:49:34 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: deadrock

A Higher Power will see to that.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 7:50:30 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: docbnj
We clearly lost WWII. The winner was Stalin, who conquered Eastern Europe, and just a few years later the communists took over China, the largest country in the world. We may have fought well, but we certainly did not “win” that war.

Stephen Ambrose, among others, disagrees with you. He said:

"The big winner in World War II was of course the United States of America. We get much more out of the war than anyone else. It's natural to say that we were suckered, that the Russians won because they got Eastern Europe out of it. But if you look at it with whatever objectivity one can muster about such things, look at what the results of the war were."

The United States came out of the war as the only major participant untouched by bombs or shells, with more food than it could eat, more clothes than it could wear and more steel than it could use, able to economically rebuild both its former major enemies and as the only nation in the world with the atomic bomb to keep the peace.

Now, it can certainly be argued that the United States lost the peace, but as far as winning the war, there's little doubt.

26 posted on 06/28/2014 7:56:45 AM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: KC_Lion

My family background is Hungarian - Jew. My great grandmother immigrated to the US. Somehow she and her family survived the Holocaust. I had one great aunt who went through Auschwitz and survived that.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 8:01:46 AM PDT by SkyDancer (If you don't read the newspapers you are uninformed. If you do read newspapers you are misinformed)
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To: JW1949; QBFimi; DuncanWaring; yldstrk; GOPsterinMA; Islander7
Great Britain did NOT “expell sons” to America

What about the Puritans?

QBFimi and Islander7 thank you for that other link, I think the music quality might be better too.

28 posted on 06/28/2014 8:02:14 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: SkyDancer
G-d Bless you and your Family Skydancer.

They endured so much.

Then they had Communism to deal with.

I know that strength passed to you :)

It had to survive flying in Australia O_o

29 posted on 06/28/2014 8:05:24 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: GOPsterinMA

Obviously, to interlope.


30 posted on 06/28/2014 8:39:26 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

I’d say make to yourself look like a fool, which you pulled off.


31 posted on 06/28/2014 8:58:38 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: sickoflibs; BillyBoy; NFHale; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; Perdogg

Well, I’ve been hoodwinked. According to a few “enlightened” folks, the USA DID NOT WIN either World War, we we just along for the ride.

Honestly, what resides in the woodwork on here is as pathetic as it is humorous.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 9:02:39 AM PDT by GOPsterinMA
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To: KC_Lion

Did Great Britain gather up all the Puritans and ship them off to America against their will????

I think not...The Puritans left of their own accord to achieve religious freedom from the Church of England....


33 posted on 06/28/2014 9:05:28 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: markomalley

Some see Princip as a hero, others see him as a zero, but for all intent and purposes, if he did not trigger WWI, something else most likely would. Even so, I remember in 2000, I thought Princip, not Einstein, should have been the Man of the 20th Century, just look at what his two bullets started and we are still dealing with the fallout today.


34 posted on 06/28/2014 9:21:43 AM PDT by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: onedoug

I made my point at #21. Don’t like it? Tough.


35 posted on 06/28/2014 9:59:48 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

“...And from which we haven’t won a war since...”

Which war did you fight in and what branch of the military did you serve with?


36 posted on 06/28/2014 10:14:00 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: JW1949

Medic with 1/1 Armored Cavalry, Americal Division, I Corps RVN 1968-69.


37 posted on 06/28/2014 10:30:00 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: markomalley
The event touched off a series of blunders, misjudgements, and misadventures that culminated in the great powers stumbling into a war that few of them wanted and none could foresee the consequences for.

Could happen again. In Ukraine.

38 posted on 06/28/2014 10:39:55 AM PDT by McGruff (It's not the crime, it's the cover-up they said.)
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To: onedoug

Thanks for your service...GM2 Navy Mobile Riverine Force attached to UDT12 and SEAL2, Nha Be and Can Tho, South Vietnam, ‘68-’68...


39 posted on 06/28/2014 11:03:00 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: JW1949

That was ‘68-’69...


40 posted on 06/28/2014 11:04:13 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: JW1949
Yes, they left because the Church of England wouldn't tolerate their views.

Follow our teachings or leave.

Sounds like Expulsion to me.

41 posted on 06/28/2014 11:04:47 AM PDT by KC_Lion (Build the America you want to live in at your address, and keep looking up.- Sarah Palin)
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To: onedoug

So you were in the highlands...I was in RSSZ...


42 posted on 06/28/2014 11:05:17 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: KC_Lion

They left of their own accord....


43 posted on 06/28/2014 11:06:13 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: JW1949

But, be that as it may, Americans at large were NOT expeklled from Great Britain...Great Britain was expelled from the USA....Period.


44 posted on 06/28/2014 11:08:09 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: docbnj; Colonel_Flagg; GOPsterinMA; sickoflibs; BillyBoy; Impy; fieldmarshaldj; KC_Lion; Perdogg

“...So please spare me the rah-rah stuff....”

Having had a Doughboy grandfather who crunched mud in the Argonne, and a father who did it all over again twenty five years later, in the Ardenne AND the airborne assault into Germany, plus Marine uncles in the Pacific... Dad also did occupation duty in Germany for two years. As in “Occupied after they surrendered”.

They’d definitely disagree with you.

“...We are not even alert enough to stop large busses of illegal immigrants from calmly driving across the boarder full of whole families of illegal aliens. We don’t even have any effective military presence, and not even effective border agents....”

Everything you posted in that particular paragraph has absolutely NOTHING to do with “WE” - and has everything to do with Obama and his cabal of socialist/communist democrats.


45 posted on 06/28/2014 11:47:51 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: KC_Lion

Ours is truly a Dark Age, at least so far as Europe is concerned.


46 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:19 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: JW1949

That is deep in jungle. Beautiful country all the way up to the Chinese border. And nearly two thousand miles of some of the most beautiful beachfront in the world.

Have you ever thought of going back? Daughter and I did back in 2000. (Wife doesn’t want to fly.)

We did Saigon, which I had never seen before. Then we flew to Danang, and day-tripped for 8 days to many of the places I remembered...some good, some bad, from the first time wround. Stayed at a real swanky place for about $130/night. Always wanted to get back for that twilight swim in their swell pool.

The restaurants were a knock-out too.

From there we flew up to Hanoi and stayed in a French colonial hotel for two days before heading home.

The people in the North are much less gregarious than those in the South. So in that sense, they’re still two different countries. And the Southerners still love Americans and will try to practice their English on you constantly.

‘Bet you’d like it.


47 posted on 06/28/2014 3:20:17 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug

Did you notice the Hilton hotel chain now has a property in Hanoi?

They just don’t call it the Hanoi Hilton.


48 posted on 06/28/2014 3:47:04 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: JW1949

how big were the catfish there?


49 posted on 06/28/2014 6:43:58 PM PDT by RitchieAprile
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To: GOPsterinMA; NFHale
RE:”Well, I’ve been hoodwinked. According to a few “enlightened” folks, the USA DID NOT WIN either World War, we we just along for the ride.
Honestly, what resides in the woodwork on here is as pathetic as it is humorous.”

I just followed the comments up and the idea arguing whether or not we ‘won’ those wars reminds me of arguments I used to have as a kid, and don't miss. Arguing over the meaning of word 'win' and 'we'.

I do recall that Germany and Japan surrendered unconditionally to the allies, that seems like a clear win to the allies.

50 posted on 06/28/2014 8:42:29 PM PDT by sickoflibs (King Obama : 'The debate is over. The time for talk is over. Just follow my commands you serfs""')
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