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Another Ghost Town in China, This Time a Replica of Manhattan
Townhall.com ^ | June 28, 2014 | Mike Shedlock

Posted on 06/28/2014 1:14:07 PM PDT by Kaslin

Malinvestment in China proceeds at a staggering pace. Technically, this growth adds to GDP, but eventually it will be written off.

Ghost cities, ghost malls, and empty train stations in China have been in the news for years. The world's largest mall is unoccupied and entire cities sit vacant.

(Excerpt) Read more at finance.townhall.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: china
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1 posted on 06/28/2014 1:14:07 PM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
The world's largest mall is unoccupied and entire cities sit vacant.

Would they like to volunteer them as shelters for underage Guatemalans?

2 posted on 06/28/2014 1:15:23 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Kaslin

You build things from the “bottom up” and not the “top down”. That’s the key difference in what China is doing as compared to what the USA has done over the decades.

With China attempting to rush things and get it done quickly, they build an empty facade and think that it’s success. They’ve got it all wrong. That’s why they’re going to implode on their economy. They’ll survive, but it won’t be a pretty picture in the meantime.


3 posted on 06/28/2014 1:22:36 PM PDT by Star Traveler (Remember to keep the Messiah of Israel in the One-World Government that we look forward to coming)
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To: Kaslin
Coming to Amerika, thanks to UN Agenda 21.

Got to get all the peasants out of the suburbs and into high-rise containment facilities.

4 posted on 06/28/2014 1:31:31 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Kaslin

China’s version of crony capitalism.


5 posted on 06/28/2014 1:33:26 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: Kaslin

It’s just so stupid on the surface that I’m tempted to look for some larger, underlying rationale, such as existing cities being laid waste somehow. Are these “ghost cities” well inland?


6 posted on 06/28/2014 1:35:51 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Kaslin

The U.S. would have employed those defacto carbon credits for something productive.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 1:36:57 PM PDT by 4Liberty (Optimal institutions - optimal economy.)
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To: Kaslin
Central planning - that's what this country needs more of, sez 0bama.
8 posted on 06/28/2014 1:38:26 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Kaslin

There are 1.2 billion Chinese in China.

Just because some place doesn’t currently have a bunch of people in it, doesn’t mean anything.

Just saying.


9 posted on 06/28/2014 1:38:33 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Tax-chick

bttt!


10 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:03 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Kaslin

The ChiComs are just getting ready for the next big war. When their big cities get nuked they have ready built spare ready to fill.


11 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:25 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: BenLurkin

;-)


12 posted on 06/28/2014 1:47:55 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Kaslin

those places if they ever need working infrastructure, sitting around not being used and maintained, it’s gonna fail big time.


13 posted on 06/28/2014 1:49:27 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: fella

these vacant places can be nuked too.


14 posted on 06/28/2014 1:50:03 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: RegulatorCountry
It’s just so stupid on the surface that I’m tempted to look for some larger, underlying rationale, such as existing cities being laid waste somehow.

Some people have suggested this in the past. If you suspect that you will need a city in a hurry the best thing to do would be clear and lay out the building site but the moment you put a building up it begins falling down. Unless they have filled the ghost city with maintenance crews these cities, that were build up to ten years ago, are a waste.

We are house hunting at the moment, a house that has been empty a year or more has problems. The longer it has been empty the more problems there are.

15 posted on 06/28/2014 1:52:25 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (Proud Infidel, Gun Nut, Religious Fanatic and Freedom Fiend)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Raccoons tear the roof off. After that, it’s all downhill.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 1:54:15 PM PDT by Tax-chick (Let the storm rage on ... the cold never bothered me anyway.)
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

An empty house goes down, true.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 1:56:58 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Star Traveler
You build things from the “bottom up” and not the “top down”.

Exactly correct...

The reason these cities sit empty is because the middle class in China is not growing nearly as fast as they thought...

Large amounts of the population are living in non-capitalist zones (communist) and have no opportunity to move up in status to afford to live in these cities...

China is putting the cart before the horse...

18 posted on 06/28/2014 1:57:05 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Popman

China’s one-child policy over decades have killed all the residents that would have lived in these ghost cities.

The U.S. on the other hand has likely killed the scientist that would have found the cure for cancer and aids.


19 posted on 06/28/2014 2:02:17 PM PDT by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: Star Traveler

This is pretty much what Dubai has done. It is a city filled with breathtaking architecture that stands 80% unoccupied.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 2:12:34 PM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: Kaslin

What an incredible waste of commodities.


21 posted on 06/28/2014 2:15:59 PM PDT by headstamp 2
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To: Kaslin

I say move all the democraps there.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 2:17:39 PM PDT by hdbc (FUBO)
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To: Kaslin

infrastructure spending... cities to nowhere


23 posted on 06/28/2014 2:19:51 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Many of them are along the border with Mongolia.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 2:20:54 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

Some of these cities are starting to crumble as they wait for people


25 posted on 06/28/2014 2:21:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

26 posted on 06/28/2014 2:23:40 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: aMorePerfectUnion

The PRC is more capitalist than America now.

Strangely, you cannot join the military. You have to apply and be accepted....like college.


27 posted on 06/28/2014 2:25:12 PM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: George from New England
China’s one-child policy over decades have killed all the residents that would have lived in these ghost cities.

Excellent point...one I overlooked ..

28 posted on 06/28/2014 2:25:30 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: GeronL

So they are well inland. Have they bought into the warmist hype or as some have wildly theorized, they’re planning for very rough seas and subduction due to an asteroid or asteroids striking? It’s just so weirdly wasteful and pointless without there being some larger explanation.


29 posted on 06/28/2014 2:28:01 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

This was supposed to be “stimulus” for their economy. Their commies are a lot like our commies. lol


30 posted on 06/28/2014 2:30:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: headstamp 2

Although if I had to judge from the pic in the OP, it looks like a nice city. lol


31 posted on 06/28/2014 2:31:33 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Popman; George from New England

To be fair, Chinese people are crammed like crazy in their eastern seaboard cities like Shanghai.

If they could get the economic incentives working, some of those could spread out into the Potemkin villages. Trouble is, on earth you don’t usually have success in setting up fairytale cities and putting people in them and having them live happily ever after. Places have to be founded small and evolve, with lots of grit and work and sweat. The Potemkin villages doubtless won’t be found complete and will require some rebuilding, if they do get populated.


32 posted on 06/28/2014 2:33:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Kaslin

When it comes to government agency economic reporting, America cooks the books with lies and China cooks the books with loans.


33 posted on 06/28/2014 2:36:23 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: Kaslin

Pokemkin Villages?.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village


34 posted on 06/28/2014 2:37:18 PM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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To: hdbc

I am 100+% for that


35 posted on 06/28/2014 2:45:54 PM PDT by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

Doesn’t look too “unoccupied” -— though I have seen pics of one of their ghost towns.


36 posted on 06/28/2014 2:47:11 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Kaslin
.... Surprised China isn't promoting these cities to American filmmakers as full sized "Movie Sets." I bet they even have life sized transformer robots lying around going unused. I bet Michael Bay could save billions of bucks on special effects costs smashing and blowing up these empty cities.

.... btw .... haha .... I'm just kidding .....

37 posted on 06/28/2014 3:40:53 PM PDT by R_Kangel ( "A Nation of Sheep ..... Will Beget ..... a Nation Ruled by Wolves.")
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To: Star Traveler
...they build an empty facade and think that it’s success.

Serves 'em right; for counterfeiting Kevin Cosner movies!

They miss the message that you have to actually HAVE a cornfield to start with!

38 posted on 06/28/2014 3:53:44 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Tax-chick; goat granny
Raccoons tear the roof off.

They did that to out house; ripping the spinning ventilators off!

I ended up with covering the holes with plywood and roofing and ventilating the attic thru gable end vents (with hardware cloth over them!)


The neighbors weren't so lucky.

They are (were!!) snowbirds and when they returned one spring, they found their entire house was in shambles!!

'Coons ripped off the soffit under the eaves and entered.

They had to live out of their RV until the contracors fixed everything.

39 posted on 06/28/2014 3:58:32 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: GeronL
This was supposed to be “stimulus” for their economy.

After the shovels; comes the roller...

40 posted on 06/28/2014 4:09:31 PM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Coming to Amerika, thanks to UN Agenda 21.

I heard a rumor, that according to Agenda 21, they think the population of America should only be 500,000. I do not know if that is true or not.

41 posted on 06/28/2014 4:13:48 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may an elephant caress you with his toes, or worse)
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To: Kaslin

I still believe the Chinese are building these cities in order to keep their workers busy.

Workers who are employed, have money in their pockets, and are busy aren’t angry and formenting political unrest, which would be a threat to the regime.


42 posted on 06/28/2014 4:15:06 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (I don't want to feel "safe." I want to feel FREE!)
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To: Elsie

Rolling, rolling rolling... keep them doggies moving...


43 posted on 06/28/2014 4:48:58 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Secret Agent Man
"these vacant places can be nuked too."

Not after our ever shrinking stockpile is used up.

44 posted on 06/28/2014 4:49:14 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again,")
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To: Mark17

They think that the human population of Earth should only be 500,000,000.


45 posted on 06/28/2014 5:18:09 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
They think that the human population of Earth should only be 500,000,000.

True worshippers of mother nature, worshipping the creature, rather than the creator. I would say they have a tiny problem. Outside of nuclear war, how are they going to convince 5 and 1/2 billion people to off themselves, to reach their target number? A bit of a conundrum, no?

46 posted on 06/28/2014 5:36:19 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may an elephant caress you with his toes, or worse)
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To: Mark17

http://www.roadsideamerica.com/story/2602


47 posted on 06/28/2014 5:48:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
One Guidestones fan web site shows a pie chart with over 90% of Humanity in the ominous "Cull" category...

Yes, exactly what I mean, how do they plan to "cull" 90% of the world's population, with out creating more than just a little stir?

48 posted on 06/28/2014 5:57:18 PM PDT by Mark17 (Rats and RINOs, who are destroying America, may you be smacked by the fly swatter of reality)
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To: Tax-chick
What a hell of a great idea! And their parents and extended families can join them.

They may have trouble learning Mandarin, but the Chinese will have little trouble learning the Spanish necessary to order them around.

49 posted on 06/28/2014 6:21:48 PM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Kaslin

They are Potemkin cities according to Philippinos I know who face the invasion of China. They are meant to make the West believe China is pursuing a civil economy. buildings are not even wired or with foundations.


50 posted on 06/28/2014 6:23:06 PM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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