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Why liberals should stop trying to ‘help’ black Americans
The New York Post ^ | June 28, 2014 | Jason L. Riley

Posted on 06/28/2014 2:00:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The civil-rights struggles of the mid-20th century were liberalism at its best. The efforts culminated in the passage of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voting Rights Act of 1965, which outlawed racial discrimination in employment and education and ensured the ability of blacks to register and vote.

But what about the social policy and thinking that arose from the ruins of Jim Crow? Good intentions aside, which efforts have facilitated black advancement, and which efforts have impeded it?

Many liberals today don’t seem particularly interested in asking this question, even though 50 years into the war on poverty the picture isn’t pretty.

While gains have been made, significant racial disparities persist in some areas and black retrogression has occurred in others.

The black-white poverty gap has widened over the last decade and the poverty rate among blacks is no longer declining. The black-white disparity in incarceration rates today is larger than it was in 1960.

And the black unemployment rate has, on average, been twice as high as the white rate for five decades. In fact, black America has long been stuck in a severe recession. Between 1963 and 2012, annual black unemployment averaged 11.6%, while the average annual national unemployment rate during recessions over the same period was only 6.7%.

Confronted with these statistics, liberals continue to push for the same “solutions” that clearly haven’t worked before....

(Excerpt) Read more at nypost.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: blacks; civilrights; racism; statism

1 posted on 06/28/2014 2:00:26 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They’re not going to ever “stop” helping black Americans because they’re Democrats- and one thing that every Democrat has feared since Thomas Jefferson is an independent-thinking black man. That’s why Democrats kept them in slavery and forbade them to learn to read and write. That’s why Democrats lynched them and burned their churches down during Jim Crow. That’s why they started the so-called “War On Poverty” (newsflash-Poverty won).....strong, independent people reliant only on their friends and family and God, living their lives apart from Gubmint help, is like a Cross to a Vampire.


2 posted on 06/28/2014 2:04:47 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople (Ob)
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To: MRourke85

Where would all their jobs come from? They feed off the black, i.e., prisons, social workers, special teachers, grants, housing, etc. Their world would collapse.


4 posted on 06/28/2014 2:19:11 PM PDT by Cowgirl
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
FROM WIKIPEDIA:

The Civil Rights Act of 1957 was also Congress's show of support for the Supreme Court's Brown decisions. [1] The Brown v. Board of Education (1954), eventually led to the integration of public schools. Following the Supreme Court ruling, Southern whites in Virginia began a “Massive Resistance.” Violence against blacks rose there and in other states, as in Little Rock, Arkansas, where that year President Dwight D. Eisenhower had ordered in federal troops to protect nine children integrating a public school, the first time the federal government had sent troops to the South since Reconstruction.[2] There had been continued physical assaults against suspected activists and bombings of schools and churches in the South. The administration of Eisenhower proposed legislation to protect the right to vote by African Americans.

Democratic Senator Strom Thurmond of South Carolina, an ardent segregationist, sustained the longest one-person filibuster in history in an attempt to keep the bill from becoming law. His one-man filibuster lasted 24 hours and 18 minutes; he began with readings of every state's election laws in alphabetical order. Thurmond later read from the Declaration of Independence, the Bill of Rights, and George Washington's Farewell Address. His speech set the record for a Senate filibuster.[3] The bill passed the House with a vote of 285 to 126 (Republicans 167-19 for, Democrats 118-107 for) [4] and the Senate 72 to 18 (Republicans 43-0 for, Democrats 29-18 for).[5] President Eisenhower signed it on September 9, 1957.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Civil_Rights_Act_of_1957

5 posted on 06/28/2014 2:19:47 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Most liberals really don’t want to help they just want to assuage their white guilt.


6 posted on 06/28/2014 2:24:26 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: MuttTheHoople

ROFL The Dems were not the ones helping blacks in the Civil Rights Movement....it was Republicans. You can find all of that out at the Black Republicans Association website.


7 posted on 06/28/2014 2:26:11 PM PDT by Kackikat
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To: Kid Shelleen

The bigger unreported issue is the true in-house effects of affirmative action.

In our present rush to create a new batch of citizens out of illegal immigrants, its not being discussed that as soon as a member of a racial minority is naturalized they will have more rights to employment and to gain contracts with public agencies than a native-born citizen who has paid taxes all his or her life to support those same agencies.


8 posted on 06/28/2014 2:33:06 PM PDT by research99
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Democrats KNOW they aren't "helping" blacks.....they NEED THEM TO STAY ON THE DEMOCRAT PLANTATION!!! They NEED their VOTES, so Democrats "GIVE them OUR MONEY to BUY THEIR VOTES"!!!

Hey Black people....are your cities nice and safe??? How about your neighborhoods??? How are your schools?? Do your kids know how to READ and WRITE PROPERLY and NOT EBONICS??? DO YOU CARE????

Can you go out and walk at night??? Other than a GOVERNMENT or HOSPITAL job, can you GET a JOB?? Can your KIDS find work??

When you blacks WAKE THE HELL UP and REALIZE what the DEMOCRATS have DONE TO YOU, all HELL is going to break loose......but ALAS.....you will probably NEVER wake up....sad as hell.

9 posted on 06/28/2014 2:36:14 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion.....the Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

All the pandering should have stopped when one of them was crowned leader of the US.


10 posted on 06/28/2014 2:37:12 PM PDT by bgill
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

You really need to have a good view of what you would help someone “to” before you can truly help that person.

Throwing money at things is no panacea. People can use money for all kinds of self defeating activities.

Until I am blue in the face, I keep on preaching a gospel view of things. That’s the only thing that will set people free. It’s funny that the only thing that made it spiritually possible for actual slaves to keep out of a blue funk, is now assiduously shunned by those who say that their slave history is gloomily overshadowing their lives. It’s like all of a sudden they don’t think God has anything better to do than damn America (and damn themselves with America).


11 posted on 06/28/2014 2:39:51 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: bgill

But it didn’t: the King is now expected to be pandered to, and as just about all his ideas are atrocious, the wascally GOP is busy frustrating that idea, and a huge Gloom has set in.


12 posted on 06/28/2014 2:40:53 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m still not sure what is so grand about the “Civil Rights Act” Do whites have civil rights?

In addition what responsibility do blacks have in/for race relations or is it all on whites?


13 posted on 06/28/2014 2:43:26 PM PDT by Altura Ct.
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Liberals are NOT trying to help anyone, they just want to steal our money to buy their votes.


15 posted on 06/28/2014 2:49:43 PM PDT by CodeToad (Arm Up! They Are!)
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To: Ann Archy

And what is sad about all of this is it is conservatives who share the morals qnd the religious beliefs of many blacks. Then the rats remind them that they are black first and a Christian second.


16 posted on 06/28/2014 3:02:15 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The more you treat somebody like a helpless loser the more they are going to act like a helpless loser.


17 posted on 06/28/2014 3:05:59 PM PDT by all the best
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

But they need to keep helping so they can keep black America down permanently (demonstrating their compassion by doing so, of course.) They need a permanent and expanding underclass to keep themselves in power.

Democrats view black people as their property.


18 posted on 06/28/2014 3:12:26 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
what compounds the problem is that all black people are lumped together.

Are the problems chiefly with the blacks that are ancestors of slaves, are the problems chiefly with blacks from ocean nations, or are the problems chiefly from blacks immigrated from Europe that had no slavery background, or black immigrants escaping violence in the African continent? Are the problems universal, regardless of the background/length of time in America? And if not universal, shouldn't we be addressing the specific sectors that has the most issues ?

We can't begin to fix the problem until we find out where the problem lies.

19 posted on 06/28/2014 3:30:08 PM PDT by blueplum
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

What? Black Americans ARE Liberal.

This just makes no sense.


20 posted on 06/28/2014 3:33:59 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: MuttTheHoople

Yes, it has nothing to do with “help” and everything to do with “control.”


21 posted on 06/28/2014 3:35:41 PM PDT by livius
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

There are many successful black Americans in various fields and their skills and talents open doors of opportunity and their hard work has paid off in wealthy, productive lifestyle. We can cite numerous examples and its great to see their success. Why the general black population wants to hitch their wagons to the loser DemRat and lieberals is either due to low self esteem, or they are lazy, unmotivated and unproductive. Its another sort of bondage but self propagated. Very unimpressed by the loser attitudes of so many but not all as mentioned.


22 posted on 06/28/2014 3:46:51 PM PDT by tflabo (Truth or Tyranny)
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To: TBP

And you see how democrats treat conservative blacks.


23 posted on 06/28/2014 3:57:27 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“And what is sad about all of this is it is conservatives who share the morals qnd the religious beliefs of many blacks.”

I don’t believe “many blacks” share the morals and religious beliefs of conservatives; the number of welfare bastards, abortions, and voting for more of the same would indicate this isn’t true at all. Many black “churches” are fronts for political action committees; a co-worker showed me a magazine they circulated, and much of it was devoted to obtaining tax-exempt status.

There is a reason why nobody raised the “church/state” issue when two black “ministers” (Jackson & Sharpton) ran for president; nobody takes blacks seriously, particularly “black clergy”.


24 posted on 06/28/2014 4:08:35 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Race...sex....sexuality...
The left has screwed these up beyond any easy repair.

If you dare utter the slightest disagreement or give voice to even a theoretical fix that isn’t in the Leftist World View ...you’re immediately shouted down as a bigot.

Liberals are a hate group.


25 posted on 06/28/2014 4:35:25 PM PDT by Psycho_Bunny (Thought Puzzle: Describe Islam without using the phrase "mental disorder" more than four times.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Every ‘Rat politician running for national or state-wide office (okay, maybe not for Secretary of State in states where that is an elected office) should be asked publicly and repeatedly to enunciate an “exit strategy” for the War on Poverty.


26 posted on 06/28/2014 4:56:56 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: MRourke85
Obama explained the black response to the verdict in this way: “They understand that some of the violence that takes place in poor black neighborhoods around the country is born out of a very violent past in this country, and that the poverty and dysfunction that we see in those communities can be traced to a very difficult history.”

Obama was doing exactly what liberals have been conditioning blacks to do since the 1960s, which is to blame black pathology on the legacy of slavery and Jim Crow laws. And the president is conditioning the next generation of blacks to do the same.

This is a dodge. Those legacies are not holding down blacks half as much as the legacy of efforts to help them “overcome.” The left’s sentimental support has turned underprivileged blacks into playthings for liberal intellectuals and politicians who care more about clearing their conscience or winning votes than advo­cating behaviors and attitudes that have allowed other groups to get ahead.

Jason L. Riley 'gets' it.

But you're right - dems are bringing in a new group... Dems will make empty promises to 'new' Hispanics too... until they're nice and dependent - totally loyal - and going no where... Hispanic unemployment is high - so dems are bring more in - make them fight over the scraps... And dems are telling them how 'it's ok to break the law' - meaning that the rest of us will start resenting them... Talk about setting people up for a fall...

Illegals are slavery-lite... all over again... and as usual - brought to us by democrats.

27 posted on 06/28/2014 7:27:29 PM PDT by GOPJ (Losing a battle doesnÂ’t mean losing the war... Freeper livius)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes — like stolen property.


28 posted on 06/28/2014 8:23:33 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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