Conservative Poll: Sen. Hagan Leads GOPer Tillis (love those Establishment nominees!)

talkingpointsmemo.com ^ | 6/28/14 | Daniel Straus

[cotton1706]

Sen. Kay Hagan (D-NC) leads North Carolina state House Speaker Thom Tillis (R) in the North Carolina race for U.S. Senate according to a recent poll released by the conservative think tank Civitas.

The poll found Hagan leading Tillis 42 percent to 36 percent. Meanwhile, Libertarian candidate Sean Haugh had 9 percent support, the poll found.

Civitas also asked those surveyed who they would prefer if the only options were Tillis and Hagan, the respective Republican and Democratic nominees for Senate. Forty-seven percent said they would pick Hagan while 43 percent said they would pick Tillis.

The poll was conducted among 600 registered voters in North Carolina from June 18 through the 22 on behalf of National Research, inc. The margin of error was plus or minus 4 percentage points.

[bamahead]

Only surveyed “registered” voters, and has a 4% margin of error. Not a poll that should be taken seriously.

Except this is North Carolina:

Dead People and Non-Citizens Can Vote in NC – Do They?

[RIghtwardHo]

I’ve personally moved from the GOP takes the Senate at 60/40 to it’s a 50/50 proposition. The Dims are MOTIVATED and the GOPe is utterly inept.

Let the Dims keep it. The first thing we have to do is rid the Party of the GOPe. Then we can get to work.

[cotton1706]

I hope Tillis wins. We just see this far too often with “electable” nominees. Pete Hoekstra, Tommy Thompson, Denny Rehberg, Connie Mack, George Allen, etc.

[bamahead]

Tillis over Hagan obviously, but NC is a hotbed of voter fraud as exposed by James O’Keefe’s Project Veritas (see link a few posts up). With a margin this close it’s going to be tough.

[deport]

This happens quite often with a challenger like Tillis. He has name recognition and
good ID in a small area where he is known but he isn't well known statewide. Thus it
becomes a problem in the many other counties to gain that one on one rapport with the voters.

[DanZ]

“No, I HATE those 3rd Party losers getting in the way of firing Democrats!!!!

If you insist on undermining anyone who isn’t “Saint Conservative”, plan living under the demonic Dems.”

Are you starting with the VOTE FOR ANY REPUBLICAN crap again?

If you are, may I suggest you call all of Thad Cochran’s Mississippi Uncle Toms. They will happily vote for ANY REPUBLICAN you pay them to vote for

[John S Mosby]

You don’t know NC. This is the state that will not support gay marriage (as Hagen has done) nor obamacare nor any thing Hagen has supported. She has also done a piss poor job in constituent service. She is the entitlement establishment candidate— a very unpopular position to be in , in a working class state that wants to work.

[tennmountainman]

Looks like another RINO is about to bite the dust.

[centurion316]

This is a poll of 600 Registered voters and Hagan, the incumbent, polls under 50%. By every traditional measure, this is not good news for a Democrat incumbent facing low voter turnout on her side. The downside for the Republican is that conservatives will vote for the Libertarian because they can’t stomach voting for anyone except their original choice.

I suspect that this race is much closer to being even. Reid and the Democrats will be putting everything that they’ve got into a victory.

[G Larry]

Nobody votes more conservative than I.

Its just that I don’t cry and take my ball a go home when my preferred candidate doesn’t win.

I continue to fight to defeat the Dems.

Pretending to “teach the GOPe a lesson” is a fools errand, that will only cost us America.

[DanZ]

“I hope Tillis wins. We just see this far too often with “electable” nominees. Pete Hoekstra, Tommy Thompson, Denny Rehberg, Connie Mack, George Allen, etc.”

This is a list RINOs who prefer BIG G’ment and have no desire to fight for a limited small G’Ment.

[nikos1121]

Maybe if Tillis would sing some of his hit songs, it might make a difference. The guy stutters terribly when he speaks...

[John S Mosby]

Indeed, and does not take into account who the candidates are, the landmark tectonic shift of control in the State House and Senate, social issues that caused that control shift(gay marriage and illegal immigrants/crime) especially within the church going black community. Blacks and whites are together on the social issues amongst the church attending groups. Not amongst the elitists in govt. employment.

[DanZ]

“The downside for the Republican is that conservatives will vote for the Libertarian because they can’t stomach voting for anyone except their original choice.”

Damn, there IS a problem with liberty, We must change this - May I suggest we enforce Thought Control on these recalcitrant conservatives :)

[bamahead]

You don’t know NC. This is the state that will not support gay marriage (as Hagen has done)

I do know NC. The liberal colleges around Raleigh/Chapel Hill + the lefties who reside in the triangle are a more powerful voting bloc than you think. And if you think Tillis isn't vulnerable on gay marriage, you should read this:

Tillis and his NYC Gay Marriage fundraiser

Always follow the $$$ when it comes to the GOP-e...

[Andy from Chapel Hill]

Hagan has been spending big on TV ads trashing Tillis and claiming she is all for the military families, etc.

So Far, there is little from the Tillis camp to counter this (that I can see).

Wait until the airways are saturated and the debates begin.

One other point — Hagen won largely due to straight ticket party voting during the 2008 Obama election. That has been made illegal and now every voter votes separately for each race.

[DanZ]

Tommy George Thompson (born November 19, 1941) is a United States Republican politician who was a state legislator in Wisconsin, and 42nd Governor of Wisconsin from 1987 to 2001 (the longest serving).
During his term as Governor he was the Chairman of AMTRAK, the nation’s passenger rail service.
He served as the U.S. Secretary of Health and Human Services from 2001 to 2005, appointed by George W. Bush.

After his time in the Bush Administration,
Thompson was a partner with the law-firm Akin Gump and Chairman of Deloitte’s global healthcare practice and has served on the board of 22 other organizations.[1]

Thompson was briefly a candidate for the U.S. Presidential election in 2008, withdrawing from the race before the primaries.
In 2012, he was the Republican nominee for the United States Senate seat in Wisconsin, hoping to replace retiring Democrat Herb Kohl, but was defeated by Tammy Baldwin, making it his first state-wide loss.

RINO

[McGavin999]

No, I will ALWAYS blame 3rd parties and stay at home whiners for our demonic liberal government.

Always somebody else's fault right? Maybe if the GOPe didn't insist on running unelectable candidates people wouldn't stay home. We used to believe in that whole teamwork thing until we finally figured out that only works one way.

[centurion316]

Voting for someone who will not win is sometimes satisfying and may even serve to send a message. Good strategy when the outcome is not in doubt. When it is, you need to be mindful of unintended consequences. How many people voted twice for Ross Perot and how did that work out for them? would we be worrying about Hillary if Bill had never been elected?

[ilgipper]

I think you may miss the point. Tillis polled worse against hagan than the other viable candidates before the primary, but we are fed a load a shit from the party bosses that their preferred candidates are the only ‘electable’ ones. Then most of their candidates go on to lose.

I would vote for Tillis in a heartbeat over hagan but once again we risk losing a winnable seat because the status quo dumps all their money behind a candidate they control.