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Murrieta immigrant detainee protests keep growing
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 5, 2014 | by JAMES BARRAGAN

Posted on 07/05/2014 9:16:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

The standoff over the housing of immigrant detainees in Murrieta grew Friday as protesters on both sides of the issue stood their ground.

Hundreds of people gathered on the road to the federal processing facility, anticipating another convoy of vehicles containing immigrants who had crossed the border in Texas.

In a reversal from earlier in the week, there were substantially more demonstrators on the immigration-rights side.

Elizabeth Thornton joined Friday's demonstrations to support the detainees — but she added that she was not enamored with the federal approach to immigration.

"This is a necessary step for these people to be released," she said. "We're here to counter the overwhelming racism and xenophobia that we've seen here the last few days."

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; border; illegalaliens; invasion
Is there a limit to how many illegal aliens we will allow to break our laws? 100,000? 200,000? 1,000,000? 5,000,000?

How many? 25,000,000? Unlimited?

1 posted on 07/05/2014 9:16:00 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

So now sneaking into the country without permission is considered ‘immigration rights’?


2 posted on 07/05/2014 9:18:22 AM PDT by skeeter
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Limit? There is no limit. Those who are “allowed” to come here in fact, are not being “allowed”, they are being BROUGHT here illeagly and not one damn gubmint representative is doing a thing about it.


3 posted on 07/05/2014 9:18:23 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"We're here to counter the overwhelming racism and xenophobia that we've seen here the last few days."

Never mind the amazing tolerance displayed over the past 40 years or so.
4 posted on 07/05/2014 9:18:59 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Illegals have taken over America and Obama and his liberal minions are helping them. To survive America had better be willing to step forward before we are overrun.


5 posted on 07/05/2014 9:19:40 AM PDT by El Zoro
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

It’s racist to have borders, just ask Elizabeth.


6 posted on 07/05/2014 9:20:35 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: DaveA37

Gubmint representatives are inviting the invasion.


7 posted on 07/05/2014 9:22:36 AM PDT by RedMDer (May we always be happy and may our enemies always know it. - Sarah Palin, 10-18-2010)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Just took shipment of my first AR rifle the other day, now stockpiling ammo...................... It looks like its coming.


8 posted on 07/05/2014 9:22:39 AM PDT by V_TWIN (white pri)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
If anyone here lives in a border state or county, let it be know that controlling this problem is the responsibility of your sheriff.
9 posted on 07/05/2014 9:30:52 AM PDT by Baynative (How much longer will the media be able to prop up this administration?)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The average leftist nincompoops (not their overlords) must be the most reflexively knee-jerk morons in history. If it appears that the right is agin’ it, they will come out for it, even when it wull hurt them as much, if not more so, than us.


10 posted on 07/05/2014 9:32:11 AM PDT by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

This is truly getting blatantly confrontational and destructive.

Obama has in his current plans to disperse nearly 300,000 of these invaders across this country. If you give him another 2.5 years, he will have infested this country with an insurmountable problem that not only inundates our support systems, but yields the very like problem we are faced with a disease pandemic from which we will not recover.


11 posted on 07/05/2014 9:34:15 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

There are probably a couple of billion people that want to come here. This is absurd these countries need to clean up their act instead of using the US as a relieve valve.


12 posted on 07/05/2014 9:35:07 AM PDT by doc
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Well, it looks like the Dems will have to impeach him....the Pubbies don’t the stones to do it.


13 posted on 07/05/2014 9:35:13 AM PDT by stboz
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To: Regulator
It’s racist to have borders, just ask Elizabeth.

That seems clear. The news reporter added a "but" in the following sentence perhaps to show Elizabeth was an objective, clear-headed observer:
"Elizabeth Thornton joined Friday's demonstrations to support the detainees — but she added that she was not enamored with the federal approach to immigration."

She is likely not enamored for the reason you suggest.

For any that may need a guide to who the good guys are in these protests - the bad guys are burning the U.S. flag.

14 posted on 07/05/2014 9:40:25 AM PDT by frog in a pot (We are all in the same pot.)
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To: doc; All
‘There are probably a couple of billion people that want to come here.’

The Pew Institute recently conducted a global poll to ascertain the rough order magnitude of the number of persons who would come to the US if they could and they came up with a figure of 700 billion plus or minus. Most of these are from Asia or the turd world. That is the pool that the ruling political class and the oligarchy wants to use to ‘fundamentally transform’ the United States into a sort of third world country where the dark skinned people look to government for survival and vote as they are told and the light skinned people can pay the taxes and do the work necessary to keep the country stumbling along. Then the US can be ready to take its place in the borderless world of the ‘New World Order’.

15 posted on 07/05/2014 9:47:31 AM PDT by robowombat
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To: V_TWIN

Yesterday on CNBC there was a feature, “The AR-15: America’s Rifle”.

Usual footage of middle aged fat white guys at gun shows & on the firing range, but a lot of technical analysis of the AR-15 as well. Looks like the MSM is taking notice that a growing portion of the populace is arming itself & pointing to the 2nd Amendment as justification.

The Murrieta demonstrations are showing there’s hope for America yet, in my opinion. If in this or future manifestations of the majority’s will, that Obama sends his Govags in & shooting breaks out, then general insurrection may well commence.


16 posted on 07/05/2014 10:02:49 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: Regulator

People like Elizabeth do not have the patience necessary for critical thought. The USA has twice the population of all of Central America and the Carribean. Our cities are over crowded and in the areas where illegals flock, degradation of that area is prevalent. It is a reality. Thinkers, such as Elizabeth cannot face the truth. If these pro-immigration protesters really wanted to make a difference than they need to demand that all money sent to Central America be stopped until their governments start showing responsibilty for their people or that money must be diverted to undeveloped areas throughout the U.S to establish new cities; creating new economies capable of sustaining the influx of this massive invasion of our borders. By accepting these illegals, we further embolden these countries to do nothing and the problem will never end. People, such as Elizabeth have been too dumbed down to realize truths outside emotional reasoning.


17 posted on 07/05/2014 10:05:15 AM PDT by mazz44
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

If the feds flat out refuse to enforce the rule of law, then the rule of law is dead in the US, and a result, the constitution is null and void, PERIOD! And the federal government has absolutely NO authority whatsoever regarding the individual states. The federal government, and all of its agents, should be considered as enemies of the individual states, and tried and convicted by state courts for insurrection, violation of state sovereignty, and violating their constitutional duties. To the naysayers and cowards who shoot down this idea: you are part of the problem at the very least, have a vested interest in the status quo, or are an agent of the federal government, and should hang along with all of the rest of your federal accomplices.


18 posted on 07/05/2014 10:07:04 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: mazz44

It’s not just the conservatives that will be overrun...It’s all you liberals also....You better stop to think about what you’ve done.........


19 posted on 07/05/2014 10:10:32 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: mazz44

Sorry mazz44...I meant to send to All...I didn’t mean to send to you personally....


20 posted on 07/05/2014 10:11:58 AM PDT by JW1949
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To: V_TWIN

Now you can start working on body armor. You don’t have to spend hundreds of dollars: except for a level IV rifle plate, Galls soft and hard shock plates and the carrier vests, my plates are all hand-made.

`Tracers work both ways.’


21 posted on 07/05/2014 10:28:12 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: frog in a pot

Well, I hope they put the sick, infested, illiterate, ILLEGAL ALIEN LAW BREAKING kids in the same class room her kids are in next fall. Then let’s see how tolerant and understanding she is.


22 posted on 07/05/2014 10:37:38 AM PDT by kevslisababy
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To: skeeter

The BLM SWAT team is holding training classes for ICE agents.


23 posted on 07/05/2014 11:39:29 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The illegal invasion will continue until patriots of sound mind take a stand. One thing that has neutralized the will to stand our ground is the Race Card. It is all a part of the Alinsky Method to demonize your opponent.

This is not a race issue, it is a jobs issue. The use of unskilled labor is a symptom of our declining economic system. It is like a fix for an addict that only gives temporary relief.

In this time of rock bottom job opportunities, can we let more unskilled people into our country? How many parents have put their kids through college only to have them living at home, working part time for low wages? Do we want more low skilled workers to squeeze out our children’s future by denying them their first steps into the job market? Do want more parents to lose their retirement income supporting children squeezed out of entry level jobs by uneducated illegals? All of this will cause our economy to lose further ground because it puts the wrong people into the entry level jobs. It short circuits the system of progression that our educated youth have used that starts them in entry level positions and moves them up the ladder to jobs they are equipped to do because of their education. When the educated have been squeezed out of the first steps, we have destroyed that system of progression.

Finally, with the job situation so bleak, do we want more kids to enter the illegal drug industry, prostitution and crime? That will be more tax money to be used for law enforcement and the justice system. All the associated effects of criminal activity will cost us big.

Now we have another legitimate issue that cannot be hit with the Race Card. It is the medical issue. We are being hit with dangerous infectious diseases. In our earlier history, Swinburne and Hoffman islands were used to quarantine immigrants suspected of carrying infectious diseases. Immigrants who were suspected of having diseases were taken to the quarantine hospital and were not allowed to go to Ellis Island for entry until they were shown to be well or were cured of the disease. Are we doing this now? Do we trust our government? There is no indication that we should trust them. And if a cholera type pandemic is started because of such failure, we will pay big with all that will happen.


24 posted on 07/05/2014 12:22:40 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
"On Thursday night, Murrieta City Manager Rick Dudley issued a message to the community that called for greater civility from those who opposed the government's approach to the mass influx of people who are in the country illegally."

Mr. Dudley, the pro-invasion protestors dragged the Stars and Stripes through the dirt before burning it. They attacked the anti-invasion demonstrators in racial terms and tried to intimidate people. How come, I never, never, ever read a request for the lawless minions of Obama to act "more civilly". In other words, Mr. Dudley, get stuffed.

25 posted on 07/05/2014 12:46:06 PM PDT by Jabba the Nutt (You can have a free country or government schools. Choose one.)
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To: DaveA37
and not one damn gubmint representative is doing a thing about it.

Well I wouldn't say that, they are continuing to threaten to bring up comprehensive immigration reform.

26 posted on 07/05/2014 4:53:35 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: El Zoro
to step forward before we are overrun.

Barn door, horse comes to mind here.

27 posted on 07/05/2014 4:54:34 PM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: itsahoot

I get the feeling you do not understand the problem the USA has today or you are joking!


28 posted on 07/05/2014 7:09:06 PM PDT by El Zoro
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To: tumblindice

Hey, thanks for the advice. appreciate it.


29 posted on 07/06/2014 3:18:17 AM PDT by V_TWIN (white pri)
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To: El Zoro
I get the feeling you do not understand the problem

You said before it is to late, I said it is already to late.

Closing the Barn Door after the Horse has left is an old adage.

30 posted on 07/06/2014 6:10:27 AM PDT by itsahoot (Voting for a Progressive RINO is the same as voting for any other Tyrant.)
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To: itsahoot

I am familiar with the term but as long as I breath I will have hope. As bad as things are going I want to take some out before I go!


31 posted on 07/06/2014 12:32:31 PM PDT by El Zoro
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