Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Don't let nativism cloud the immigration debate
The Washington Examiner ^ | July 10, 2014 | Shikha Dalmia

Posted on 07/11/2014 2:57:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, going to school during the day, kicking ball with friends in the evening, trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

If the answer is “no,” then it is time for you to throw out your “Return to Sender” signs. Why? Because asking your government to do what you can’t ain’t right!

America is blessed with a rich and stable neighbor on the north and oceans on the east and west. Hence, it is naturally insulated from the nasty side effects of civil wars, famines and other catastrophes outside its borders that other countries routinely confront. But unless it relocates to another planet, it can’t completely cut itself off from foreign upheavals, especially those it has a hand in causing.

Anti-immigration hardliners are blaming the surge of minors - 90,000 alone this year, a five-fold increase from 2011 -- on America's lenient deportation policies and the prospect of “amnesty.” The reality is more complicated.

The surge comes almost exclusively from three of the most dangerous countries in the hemisphere -- Honduras, El Salvador and Guatemala. Why are they so dangerous? In part, because of America's illicit drug war.

This trillion-dollar war puts the onus on Latin American countries to stop drugs from flowing into the U.S. -- rather than on the U.S. to curb its own appetite. America has conditioned aid and market access on how hard these countries crack down on drug dealers...

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonexaminer.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty; illegalimmigration; immigration; lping; nativism; obama; warondrugs; xenophobia
So all eight billion people in the world are welcome here?

SHIKHA DALMIA, a Washingon Examiner columnist, is a senior policy analyst at Reason Foundation, a nonprofit think tank advancing free minds and free markets. Columbia University's Eric Haskell provided valuable research assistance for this piece.

1 posted on 07/11/2014 2:57:52 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Because asking your government to do what you can’t ain’t right! “

So all taxation will now cease right? I mean, I can’t tax myself, so...


2 posted on 07/11/2014 3:00:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reason Foundation”

Another liberaltarian think tank


3 posted on 07/11/2014 3:01:55 PM PDT by headstamp 2
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Bull freaking crap! They have NO RIGHT to be in this country.

Any words to the contrary are absolute pure bull crap.


4 posted on 07/11/2014 3:02:33 PM PDT by MortMan (All those in favor of gun control raise both hands!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Drop a quarter and send the trespasser and those who gave him/her aid and comfort on a long train ride to Costa Rica. Millions have done it the right way. Why should these folks be given special treatment just because the speak spanglish? More like a non profit/for profit stink tank. Not a think tank.


5 posted on 07/11/2014 3:02:56 PM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
A partial repeal of the William Wilberforce Trafficking Victims Protection Reauthorization Act of 2008, signed by GWB, would be a major hit to GWB’s legacy, and he may not take kindly to this, and this may upset GWB’s supporters, Karl Rove, Jeb Bush and others. I personally could care less what they say, and don't care much for Boehner, Rove, etc...

Yes, we are under a planned invasion, but Boehner has pounded the drum that Obama does not uphold and defend the law. Yes, Obama does neither, but f Obama does so now with this Act, Boehner will have put the GOP in a pickle.

6 posted on 07/11/2014 3:04:53 PM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Being my neighbor does not remove the status of criminal from anyone. If my neighbor robs a bank I want him to go to jail.
The fact remains that this is an illegal invasion of our nation and our Government MUST put a stop to it.


7 posted on 07/11/2014 3:04:56 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This fellow left ‘reason’ at the door.

I’m assuming, strictly from his surname, that he’s not native-born. So I guess that makes me a ‘nativist’.

It sure does. How does he/she assume they knew what or forebears wanted this country to be?

Go away! Leftist, third-world, pest!


8 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:01 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, ... Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

My conscience would compel me to pickup the phone and reunite the child with his parents. I'm all about family.

9 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:01 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I see this writer never lets facts get in the way of his agenda.
So many people are bemoaning that these illegals are fleeing a dangerous p0verty mired place. the writer needs to check out the murders in Chicago. Houston Detriot Phully new Orleans etc just over the week end
and then the writer and all the others spouting the extreme poverty nonsense might stop and wonder how people in extreme poverty all cam up with the thousands to pay the coyotes.
last the writer should ask why Mexico is giving these illegals a pass to get here and even giving money to the illegal minors to get here


10 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:06 PM PDT by RWGinger
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Wheeling out all the old cannards aren’t they.


11 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:18 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep, I’ll have to admit it.

There’s really nothing wrong with 100s of thousands of foreign national pouring across our border every month.

I had to take a good look in the mirror and admit it.

I’m the real problem. I’m to much a nativist.

[insert sound of needle going across a record here]

WTF has this knuckle-dragging Leftist been drinking, paint thinner?

Nativist?

At what point does loyal citizenship come into play?

In a sane nation, people like this guy would be charged with treason. I’m sorry, but the time has come to call a spade a spade. Bring the guy up on charges, misinformation and acting as an agent for the enemies of our nation.


12 posted on 07/11/2014 3:05:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Tell me who is letting “nativism” cloud the debate? Who? Every conservative I know focuses on the rule of law. The idea of letting a mob of people in illegally, without screening for their criminal past or diseases, is abhorrent. Not using any logic as to who to let in — letting skilled workers in first or other logical criteria — is abhorrent. Letting border-crossers in ahead of immigrants who have waited for years going through the legal process is abhorrent. I don’t know of any credible person who is saying don’t let immigrants in because we hate Latinos or want a “white” country. This “nativism” argument is a straw man.


13 posted on 07/11/2014 3:07:03 PM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, going to school during the day, kicking ball with friends in the evening, trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in? "

It wouldn't have gotten that far along with me. Before anyone illegal had a chance to settle in, I'd be on the phone reporting him or her.

"Shikha Sood Dalmia" is a native of India who makes money mocking "proud Americans." She can go right the hell back where she came from.

14 posted on 07/11/2014 3:08:48 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is about the fifth article I’ve seen today blaming the “War on Drugs”. Evidently that’s the new focus-group tested meme from the left.


15 posted on 07/11/2014 3:09:32 PM PDT by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Because asking your government to do what you can’t ain’t right! “

Need me to drive a truck?
Fly a plane?
Stand guard at the border with a weapon?
I am asking my Government to follow the law.
I am asking my Government to do what we elected it to do.
Today its 90 thousand next year its 900 thousand. We the people are not going to allow that....


16 posted on 07/11/2014 3:14:18 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Because asking your government to do what you can’t ain’t right! “

Need me to drive a truck?
Fly a plane?
Stand guard at the border with a weapon?
I am asking my Government to follow the law.
I am asking my Government to do what we elected it to do.
Today its 90 thousand next year its 900 thousand. We the people are not going to allow that....


17 posted on 07/11/2014 3:15:04 PM PDT by SECURE AMERICA (I am an American Not a Republican or a Democrat.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

0bama has pulled the border patrol back 45 miles in some areas so the invaders are already ‘here’ when they are met by the Patrol.

There are 5 people over the age of 15 for every ‘child’.
All the photos I’ve seen show the child holding an adult’s hand.


18 posted on 07/11/2014 3:18:55 PM PDT by alpo (What would Selco do?)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

It doesn’t matter how family oriented they are or how nice their kids are — if they snuck and lied their way in, kick them out.

And let those who point their fingers at the natives about compassion bear the cost of their so-called compassion. The illegals can stay in their houses.


19 posted on 07/11/2014 3:19:25 PM PDT by Socon-Econ
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vladimir998; headstamp 2; MortMan; rktman; Laissez-faire capitalist; SECURE AMERICA; x1stcav; ...

The author

20 posted on 07/11/2014 3:19:36 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

OK shiksa, WHAT foreign upheavel have we had a hand in causing, and are these the people from that alleged upheaval ?


21 posted on 07/11/2014 3:21:00 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Neighbors run to report every other damn thing to the nanny state, WHY NOT THIS?


22 posted on 07/11/2014 3:21:24 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Guilty. Deport (citizen or not)


23 posted on 07/11/2014 3:22:31 PM PDT by UnbelievingScumOnTheOtherSide (HELL, NO! BE UNGOVERNABLE! --- ISLAM DELENDA EST)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
"Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor ... trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?"

I'm sure many of them are my neighbors. Who do I call that would actually do something? Government policy is to allow and assist la Reconquista and to label anyone opposed a racist.

24 posted on 07/11/2014 3:24:38 PM PDT by Gil4 (And the trees are all kept equal by hatchet, ax and saw)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

She certainly looks like she’s prospered in a country she didn’t help create or fight for.

Damn! I can’ help it. It’s that old-fashioned nativism escaping again.

Look, b!tch! I don’t need your advice as to how this country needs to function.

Go away! Pest!


25 posted on 07/11/2014 3:26:49 PM PDT by x1stcav ("The past is a foreign country: they do things differently there.")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

YES, I have been calling the Border Patrol to pick up illegals for over 25 years, I am not about to stop now.

26 posted on 07/11/2014 3:28:59 PM PDT by c-b 1 (Reporting from behind enemy lines, in occupied AZTLAN.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

And I say don’t let a false accusation and slander “cloud the debate”!


27 posted on 07/11/2014 3:32:00 PM PDT by SoConPubbie (Mitt and Obama: They're the same poison, just a different potency)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

Tacit admission they have no rational debating points.

28 posted on 07/11/2014 3:32:27 PM PDT by Balding_Eagle (If America falls, darkness will cover the face of the earth for a thousand years.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Playing ball, going to school, infecting everyone with parasites, incurable diseases, etc.


29 posted on 07/11/2014 3:33:23 PM PDT by odawg
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Reason” staff has been getting the red-a$$ over this stance on their Facebook page.

I know this because I’m one of those people calling them idiots for this stance.


30 posted on 07/11/2014 3:33:55 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (Tri nornar eg bir. Binde til rota...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?

I'd not only turn him in, I'd turn in his aunt and uncle for aiding and abetting, then go and have a ham sandwich.

I have NO -- repeat -- NO -- moral obligation to the rest of the world. Just as they have no obligation to me.

31 posted on 07/11/2014 3:42:54 PM PDT by IronJack
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

This guy is an idiot,
If we did not have a WELFARE STATE they would not be here.
And they are all cowards running away instead of standing and fighting their own corrupt government. Have you ever sat back and looked at WE call the third world?? every last third world hellhole on earth is run by COMMUNIST DICTATORS, including Mexico.


32 posted on 07/11/2014 3:55:42 PM PDT by eyeamok
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

33 posted on 07/11/2014 3:56:38 PM PDT by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

I ran out of compassion 15 million illegal aliens ago.


34 posted on 07/11/2014 4:00:59 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: headstamp 2

bump


35 posted on 07/11/2014 4:06:45 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: IronJack
I'd not only turn him in, I'd turn in his aunt and uncle for aiding and abetting, then go and have a ham sandwich. "

LOL

36 posted on 07/11/2014 4:17:52 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Only sociopaths/psychopaths refuse to acknowledge the difference between legal and illegal immigration.
37 posted on 07/11/2014 4:25:33 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Opinionated Blowhard

You are right. The rule of law is blind and does not see color or race. The purpose of our immigration laws is to protect our country, not exclusion.

If you look up the definition of nativism, it can either mean “protecting the interests of native inhabitants” (what’s wrong with that??), or “an irrational prejudice against immigrants”. I think we all know which definition the author is using.

The author is attempting to make nativism the new “n” word.

Ugh.


38 posted on 07/11/2014 4:36:04 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Here’s a question for the proud Americans demanding that the unaccompanied foreign children showing up at our borders be deported: Suppose that one of these “illegal” minors was your neighbor, living with his aunt and uncle, going to school during the day, kicking ball with friends in the evening, trying hard to put the traumatic journey from his native, violence-ridden country to America behind him. Would you, with a clear conscience, pick up the phone and turn him in?”

Here’s the real question... there are almost a MILLION “illegal” minors on your doorstep, wanting to live with his (cough) aunt and uncle, using scarce school funding resources during the day, etc... How do you handle that?

It’s not ONE freaking kid, it’s a MILLION! How do we handle that when we are $17T in debt, our Vets aren’t getting the care they were promised, Medicare and SS are going bankrupt, etc.

Stop sticking your head in the sand and GROW UP!!!


39 posted on 07/11/2014 4:40:31 PM PDT by Reddy (B.O. stinks)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson