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More Ukrainian soldiers killed as fighting rages in east, peace move flops
REUTERS ^ | Jul 16, 2014 | Richard Balmforth

Posted on 07/16/2014 10:50:57 AM PDT by McGruff

Fighting raged in Ukraine's east on Wednesday when separatists tried to break through the lines of government forces near the border with Russia and a tentative step towards agreeing conditions for a ceasefire failed.

Eleven more Ukrainian soldiers were killed in the space of 24 hours while hundreds of bodies of rebels were found in shallow graves in a former separatist stronghold, the army said.

Fighting has escalated sharply since Friday with the downing of a Ukrainian military transport plane and the deaths of civilians in air and artillery attacks on residential areas on both sides of the border, which Russia and Ukraine have blamed on each other.

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1 posted on 07/16/2014 10:50:57 AM PDT by McGruff
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To: McGruff

Peace can only come through victory.


2 posted on 07/16/2014 10:52:23 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: tcrlaf; caww

Some unconfirmed reports from a pretty reliable Twitter source.

Significant losses reported for Ukraine army 72th brigade in Lugansk region, were refused reinforcement by ATO HQ

Some Ukraine soldiers are said to throw away uniforms, change into civilian clothes and flee to Russia

The catastrophic battle of “Donetsk Pocket” has altered the war for the Ukraine army. When the pics come out of dead soldiers be respectful.

Ukraine Su-25 shot down with a MANPADS at 13LT (19GMT), July 16, over Saur-Mogila


3 posted on 07/16/2014 10:57:41 AM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: McGruff
Some unconfirmed reports from a pretty reliable Twitter source.

How about posting the link here, then?

4 posted on 07/16/2014 11:06:12 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

The text McGruff cut and pasted (not that he bothered to tell us it was a cut and paste!) appears in this twitter feed:

https://twitter.com/BradCabana


5 posted on 07/16/2014 11:11:56 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

So @BradCabana is retweeting tweets he’s seen?


6 posted on 07/16/2014 11:20:10 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: vladimir998

Yup he’s a pretty reliable source. And Twitter doesn’t normally have links.


7 posted on 07/16/2014 11:20:50 AM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: 1rudeboy

I think so, but I honesty don’t know enough about Twitter.


8 posted on 07/16/2014 11:27:19 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

I don’t know that much about it either. I do know that I tried to check what his sources are, and found a dead end.


9 posted on 07/16/2014 11:29:51 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Here’s a link for you.

Update: 15 Ukrainian border guards taken to Russian hospitals — FSB http://en.itar-tass.com/russia/740982

But why bother, you’ll just call it propaganda anyway.


10 posted on 07/16/2014 11:33:55 AM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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To: McGruff
No, not necessarily, comrade. But being Russian, you don't understand the difference between propaganda and news. Here's an example of the former:

Some Ukraine soldiers are said to throw away uniforms, change into civilian clothes and flee to Russia.

11 posted on 07/16/2014 11:38:35 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy; McGruff

By the way, just to let you know, I cut some of McGruff’s unattributed text:

“battle of “Donetsk Pocket” has altered the war for the Ukraine army.”

I slapped that into google and this Twitter feed came up:

https://twitter.com/Steiner1776 The person who runs it is clearly pro-Russian, self-admitted socialist/communist scumbag. That led me to the other Twitter account I previous posted a link to.


12 posted on 07/16/2014 11:39:10 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: McGruff

Did Putin tell you this when you were shining (or licking) his boots?


13 posted on 07/16/2014 12:05:27 PM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: vladimir998

Yes twitter is a shared resource. That’s no secret. Does it matter who the source is if it is true?

The scumbags are the ones in Kiev who sit in their cozy little offices and send others to be slaughtered.


14 posted on 07/16/2014 12:05:38 PM PDT by McGruff (Denial: It's Not Just a River in Egypt)
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Does it matter who the source is if it is true?

Maybe Twitter could adopt the motto, "fake, but accurate."

15 posted on 07/16/2014 12:09:03 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: McGruff

I don’t know who to pull for in this one.

Both sides are statist.

Out of spite, I think ill side with whomever obammy is against.


16 posted on 07/16/2014 12:19:25 PM PDT by DirtyPigpen (Semper Fi)
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To: McGruff

“Does it matter who the source is if it is true?”

How do you know it is true?

“The scumbags are the ones in Kiev who sit in their cozy little offices and send others to be slaughtered.”

No, those are the Ukrainian patriots who are defending their country from pro-Russian separatists who are supported by Putin. The scumbags are the pro-Russian separatists and their supporters on FR.


17 posted on 07/16/2014 12:19:57 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: vladimir998

Yes, you are correct.
32 minutes ago
The NATIONAL SECURITY and DEFENSE COUNCIL [Ukraine] said that no city, previously released from terrorists, not retaken. “Neither our military on the meter has not moved, the A. Lysenko.

However, listen to the pain in the voice of this man for his mother and father that transcends language:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOsUszYPZ5E#t=166

Please pray for God to strengthen the Ukraine government & military to quickly end this terrorism.


18 posted on 07/16/2014 12:36:05 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: 1rudeboy

Videos breaking today on the interwebs of GRADS being fired from Russia into Ukraine. Clear as day and already geolocated with google maps.

The Putinists better put their hip waders on now. It’s going to get deep for them.


19 posted on 07/16/2014 12:58:33 PM PDT by lodi90
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To: McGruff; All
Yup he’s a pretty reliable source. And Twitter doesn’t normally have links.

Reliable is pretty subjective when it comes to Putinists. You think that an article that accuses the United States and Israel of conducting "false flag terrorist attacks" is reliable. Normal people would call it anti-semitic and Alex-Jones conspiracy trash that only idiots believe.

20 posted on 07/16/2014 1:36:51 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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