Skip to comments.SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane
Posted on 07/17/2014 1:31:18 PM PDT by WildSnail
One phone call apparently was made at 4:40 p.m. Kyiv time, or 20 minutes after the plane crash, by Igor Bezler, who the SBU says is a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk Peoples Republic. He reports to a person identified by Ukraines SBU as a colonel in the main intelligence department of the general headquarters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation Vasili Geranin regarding the shot down plane, which is about to be examined by the militants.
The second intercepted conversation released by the Security Service of Ukraine was apparently between militants nicknamed Major and Greek immediately upon inspection of the crash site.
Its 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft, Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.
(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...
Full translated transcript and link to the audio in the article.
they have actual recordings of these phone calls?
Yup, the Ukranian Intelligence minister announced their release on live international TV over an hour ago.
Yes, they do.
Wow, the plane must have been at 30+ thousand feet.
Do they have missles that will reach that high? And, one report said it was not flying in restricted airspace.
Apparently, they’re not communicating with secured com equipment. Stupid on their part.
Real stupid. The video is at the link.
It’s the SA-11 (possibly the SA-17) antiaircraft missile system.
Its the SA-17 (possibly the SA-11) antiaircraft missile system.
Russians are idiots. The only bigger idiot is sitting in the Oval Office.
It was presumably shot down by a “KRUG” a/k/a/ SA-17, which has a maximum height range of nearly twice that.
The restricted airspace was below the plane’s flight level.
Maybe the Russians just haven’t had time yet to get their versions of the FBI, NTSB and CIA to fabricate a story about a center fuel tank explosion.
Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).
Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?
IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.
VG: How many minutes ago?
IB: About 30 minutes ago.
SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.
Major: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.
Grek: Yes, Major.
"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first 200 (code word for dead person). We have found the first 200. A Civilian.
Greek: Well, what do you have there?
Major: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.
Greek: Are many people there?
Major: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).
Greek: What kind of aircraft?
Major: I havent ascertained this. I havent been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.
Greek: Is there anything left of the weapon?
Major: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.
Greek: Are there documents?
Major: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson.
Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. Its a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.
They say on TV its AN-26 transport plane, but they say its written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraines territory?
Nikolay Kozitsin: That means they were carrying spies. They shouldnt be f cking flying. There is a war going on.
They started shooting at Ukrainian high altitude plains a week or two ago. They shot down one AN-26 flying at 6000 m just few weeks ago
Wow! How could the plane could be in that area!
Missles and the 30 thousand foot question?? Heard this with Flt 800 too... Heard it many times today.. But, didn’t the USSR hit a U2 back in early 60’s which would fly at 70K feet..
Below I added Wiki on that.
Saw that and he said he had video to prove it. We’ve been watching the aircraft’s strike explosion all afternoon. Why would a hand held camera be pointing right at the impact site? These people should apply for a job in the Obama Administeation, they would fit right in!
Correction on the last part - AN 26 few days ago.
Somebody over in the Intercept office is getting a medal and a promotion.
They were aiming for Ukrainians, killed Dutch people instead.
Jeez what a mess
But Putin is not responsible, it’s not like those were Russian fighters shooting Russian weapons. /s
The Day We Shot Down the U-2
by Sergei Khrushchev
Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?
The pilots of the AN-26 they shot down on Monday managed to bail out and were captured, I believe.
Yep — they actually played them on NBC news tonight —
I am actually surprised by that
Thanks for the link.