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SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane
Kiev Post ^ | 7/17/2014 | Kiev Post

Posted on 07/17/2014 1:31:18 PM PDT by WildSnail

One phone call apparently was made at 4:40 p.m. Kyiv time, or 20 minutes after the plane crash, by Igor Bezler, who the SBU says is a Russian military intelligence officer and leading commander of the self-proclaimed Donetsk People’s Republic. He reports to a person identified by Ukraine’s SBU as a colonel in the main intelligence department of the general headquarters of the armed forces of the Russian Federation Vasili Geranin regarding the shot down plane, which is about to be examined by the militants.

The second intercepted conversation released by the Security Service of Ukraine was apparently between militants nicknamed “Major” and “Greek” immediately upon inspection of the crash site.

“It’s 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft,” Major is recorded as saying, as he admitted to seeing no weapons on site. “Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.”

(Excerpt) Read more at kyivpost.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mh17; separatists; ukraine
Full title: SBU intercepts phone conversations of separatists admitting downing a civilian plane (FULL TRANSCRIPT; VIDEO)

Full translated transcript and link to the audio in the article.

1 posted on 07/17/2014 1:31:18 PM PDT by WildSnail
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To: WildSnail

they have actual recordings of these phone calls?


2 posted on 07/17/2014 1:32:27 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Yup, the Ukranian Intelligence minister announced their release on live international TV over an hour ago.


3 posted on 07/17/2014 1:37:01 PM PDT by brothers4thID (Death had to take him sleeping, else he would have put up a fight.)
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To: GeronL

Yes, they do.


4 posted on 07/17/2014 1:37:03 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: GeronL

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=V5E8kDo2n6g


5 posted on 07/17/2014 1:37:53 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: WildSnail

Wow, the plane must have been at 30+ thousand feet.

Do they have missles that will reach that high? And, one report said it was not flying in restricted airspace.


6 posted on 07/17/2014 1:39:18 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: GeronL

Apparently, they’re not communicating with secured com equipment. Stupid on their part.

Real stupid. The video is at the link.


7 posted on 07/17/2014 1:40:35 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It’s the SA-11 (possibly the SA-17) antiaircraft missile system.


8 posted on 07/17/2014 1:41:37 PM PDT by AnAmericanAbroad (It's all bread and circuses for the future prey of the Morlocks.)
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To: AnAmericanAbroad

It’s the SA-17 (possibly the SA-11) antiaircraft missile system.


9 posted on 07/17/2014 1:42:54 PM PDT by steve86 ( Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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To: WildSnail

Russians are idiots. The only bigger idiot is sitting in the Oval Office.


10 posted on 07/17/2014 1:43:14 PM PDT by ZULU (Go REDSKINS!!!)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

It was presumably shot down by a “KRUG” a/k/a/ SA-17, which has a maximum height range of nearly twice that.

The restricted airspace was below the plane’s flight level.


11 posted on 07/17/2014 1:44:04 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: ZULU

Maybe the Russians just haven’t had time yet to get their versions of the FBI, NTSB and CIA to fabricate a story about a center fuel tank explosion.


12 posted on 07/17/2014 1:45:08 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: WildSnail
Here's the transcript:

Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

IB: Gone to search for and photograph the plane. Its smoking.

VG: How many minutes ago?

IB: About 30 minutes ago.

SBU comment: After examining the site of the plane the terrorists come to the conclusion that they have shot down a civilian plane. The next part of the conversation took place about 40 minutes later.

Major”: These are Chernukhin folks who shot down the plane. From the Chernukhin check point. Those cossacks who are based in Chernukhino.

“Grek”: Yes, Major.

"Major": The plane fell apart in the air. In the area of Petropavlovskaya mine. The first “200” (code word for dead person). We have found the first “200”. A Civilian.

“Greek”: Well, what do you have there?

“Major”: In short, it was 100 percent a passenger (civilian) aircraft.

“Greek”: Are many people there?

“Major”: Holy sh__t! The debris fell right into the yards (of homes).

“Greek”: What kind of aircraft?

“Major”: I haven’t ascertained this. I haven’t been to the main sight. I am only surveying the scene where the first bodies fell. There are the remains of internal brackets, seats and bodies.

“Greek”: Is there anything left of the weapon?

“Major”: Absolutely nothing. Civilian items, medicinal stuff, towels, toilet paper.

“Greek”: Are there documents?

“Major”: Yes, of one Indonesian student. From a university in Thompson. 

Militant: Regarding the plane shot down in the area of Snizhne-Torez. It’s a civilian one. Fell down near Grabove. There are lots of corpses of women and children. The Cossacks are out there looking at all this.

They say on TV it’s AN-26 transport plane, but they say it’s written Malaysia Airlines on the plane. What was it doing on Ukraine’s territory?

Nikolay Kozitsin: That means they were carrying spies. They shouldn’t be f…cking flying. There is a war going on.


13 posted on 07/17/2014 1:54:38 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

They started shooting at Ukrainian high altitude plains a week or two ago. They shot down one AN-26 flying at 6000 m just few weeks ago


14 posted on 07/17/2014 1:57:45 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: WildSnail
Audio with english subtitles on youtube
15 posted on 07/17/2014 2:03:31 PM PDT by WildSnail (The US government now has more control over the people than the old Soviet Union ever dreamed of)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Wow! How could the plane could be in that area!


16 posted on 07/17/2014 2:05:01 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Missles and the 30 thousand foot question?? Heard this with Flt 800 too... Heard it many times today.. But, didn’t the USSR hit a U2 back in early 60’s which would fly at 70K feet..
Below I added Wiki on that.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_U-2


17 posted on 07/17/2014 2:06:21 PM PDT by WorksinKOP
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To: WildSnail

Saw that and he said he had video to prove it. We’ve been watching the aircraft’s strike explosion all afternoon. Why would a hand held camera be pointing right at the impact site? These people should apply for a job in the Obama Administeation, they would fit right in!


18 posted on 07/17/2014 2:08:29 PM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Ivan Mazepa

Correction on the last part - AN 26 few days ago.


19 posted on 07/17/2014 2:39:38 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: brothers4thID

Somebody over in the Intercept office is getting a medal and a promotion.


20 posted on 07/17/2014 2:42:21 PM PDT by ClayinVA ("Those who don't remember history are doomed to repeat it")
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To: The_Media_never_lie

Good question.
They were aiming for Ukrainians, killed Dutch people instead.

Jeez what a mess

But Putin is not responsible, it’s not like those were Russian fighters shooting Russian weapons. /s


21 posted on 07/17/2014 2:45:04 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: WorksinKOP
But, didn’t the USSR hit a U2 back in early 60’s which would fly at 70K feet..

The Day We Shot Down the U-2
by Sergei Khrushchev

22 posted on 07/17/2014 2:56:30 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: WildSnail
Igor Bezler: We have just shot down a plane. Group Minera. It fell down beyond Yenakievo (Donetsk Oblast).

Vasili Geranin: Pilots. Where are the pilots?

The pilots of the AN-26 they shot down on Monday managed to bail out and were captured, I believe.

23 posted on 07/17/2014 3:01:21 PM PDT by cynwoody
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To: GeronL

Yep — they actually played them on NBC news tonight —


24 posted on 07/17/2014 4:07:07 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

I am actually surprised by that


25 posted on 07/17/2014 6:47:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: cynwoody

Thanks for the link.


26 posted on 07/18/2014 8:31:56 AM PDT by WorksinKOP
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