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Russian Media Blame Ukraine For Plane Disaster
TIME ^ | July 18, 2014 | Charly Wilder

Posted on 07/19/2014 8:48:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy

Edited on 07/19/2014 8:59:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

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1 posted on 07/19/2014 8:48:25 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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Obama and Merkel are breathing a big sigh of relief that it will be impossible to do a investigation of the downing of MH17. If there is no official conclusion then they will not have to put any real sanctions on Russia. Putin wins. Our leaders have no interest in confronting Russia..and I guess most of our voters don’t want to either.


2 posted on 07/19/2014 8:53:14 AM PDT by Oldexpat
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To: 1rudeboy
after mistaking the Malaysian jet for a plane transporting Putin, who was on his way back to Moscow from Brazil.

It makes perfect sense - planes traveling from Amsterdam to Kuala Lumpur follow the same flight path as planes traveling from Brazil to Moscow.

3 posted on 07/19/2014 8:53:43 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: Oldexpat

So they’re just going to double-down on this?

My understanding is that all the human remains and the plane fell in Separatist territory, and they won’t let anyone come in to investigate except their own people or Russians proper, and they’ve already taken the black box to Moscow.

So it appears they’re going to hide the facts and lay the blame n the Ukrainian government.


4 posted on 07/19/2014 8:56:09 AM PDT by Alas Babylon!
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To: 1rudeboy

I realize that the president wants to blame all our woes on Putin. But I still haven’t seen what harm he’s done to this country, and haven’t seen any threats from him either. In fact, his foreign policy seems to make more sense than ours - we support the Syrian rebels, who actually DO THREATEN Americans, he doesn’t. Just one example.

So I guess I just won’t join the chorus, but others are welcome to bash him, because we all need an enemy these days.


5 posted on 07/19/2014 9:01:07 AM PDT by BobL
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What’s an Iranian nuclear reactor, here and there?


6 posted on 07/19/2014 9:06:45 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

All this proves is Russia has a state run media just like we do.


7 posted on 07/19/2014 9:07:51 AM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Yeah, but it won’t work, nobody will believe them except maybe China and Iran. No worries there.
What a mess. Par for the course these days.


8 posted on 07/19/2014 9:09:00 AM PDT by dforest
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To: teletech

I guess that makes it ok, then. /s


9 posted on 07/19/2014 9:10:07 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: 1rudeboy

Well the world has judged the opposite


10 posted on 07/19/2014 9:12:18 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Oldexpat
Obama and Merkel are breathing a big sigh of relief that it will be impossible to do a investigation of the downing of MH17. If there is no official conclusion then they will not have to put any real sanctions on Russia. Putin wins. Our leaders have no interest in confronting Russia..and I guess most of our voters don’t want to either.

I think you are likely correct.

11 posted on 07/19/2014 9:12:28 AM PDT by FreeReign
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“What’s an Iranian nuclear reactor, here and there?”

I hear you, but the president is in the process of cutting a deal to PROTECT their reactors. I refuse to follow him off that cliff either.


12 posted on 07/19/2014 9:18:07 AM PDT by BobL
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To: teletech

They should change their names to ABC or NBC.


13 posted on 07/19/2014 9:21:53 AM PDT by bray (Palin/Bibi 2016)
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To: BobL
and haven’t seen any threats from him either

You need to get your eyes checked


14 posted on 07/19/2014 9:29:04 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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“You need to get your eyes checked”

Links? And no, if we’re trying to operate in his backyard he has every right to defend himself.


15 posted on 07/19/2014 9:31:29 AM PDT by BobL
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Defend himself by blowing an innocent plane out of the sky?

Explain that logic.


16 posted on 07/19/2014 9:34:24 AM PDT by canuck_conservative
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“Defend himself by blowing an innocent plane out of the sky?”

Still waiting for links...please show me where Putin ORDERED that plane to be shot down.

I’m tired of people parroting the president.


17 posted on 07/19/2014 9:36:44 AM PDT by BobL
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To: 1rudeboy

Taking soetoro lessons.


18 posted on 07/19/2014 9:46:45 AM PDT by onedoug
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The opposite, actually. Barry is taking lessons from Vladi. Vladi knows how to do it.


19 posted on 07/19/2014 9:49:46 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: BobL
and haven’t seen any threats from him either.

Sure, if you don't count Putin's support of pretty much every world enemy we have - whom he either funds, protects at the UN, etc.

Putin's Russia is a pretty big fan and supporter of socialist Venezuela, communist Cuba, Islamist Iran's effort to become a nuclear state, and the list just goes on and on.

Also he just had a hand in shooting down a civilian airliner by at minimum providing the heavy anti-air weapons and/or training necessary to accomplish this. And before you defend him with cries of "no proof", this follows Putin's seizing the Crimea from the Ukraine while all the way claiming its forces weren't in that territory at all (which was a laughable lie).

I don't get you Putinista's? Is it the gay thing? Is that it? He opposes the homosexual agenda and you think that is enough to warrant your support? You know who else opposes the homosexual agenda? Countries like Iran and pretty much every other backward Islamist hellhole from Africa through the Middle East. So they get one thing right, even the worst countries in the world do a few things that a person could point to and say "well, at least that is right", or "at least that works".

You are lending support to Putin, a guy who thinks the greatest tragedy of modern times it he collapse of the communist Soviet Union. I wonder what Reagan would think of your support of Putin, considering all the blood and treasure he spent destroying the very thing Putin bemoans was lost.

20 posted on 07/19/2014 9:51:37 AM PDT by Longbow1969
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