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Lois Lerner's pension defunded and a whole lot more
The Rancher-Woodlands, Texas ^ | 7-20-2014 | Rick Manning - Opinion

Posted on 07/20/2014 7:05:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing

Lois Lerner's pension defunded and a whole lot more

Saturday, July 19, 2014 9:15 pm | Updated: 1:29 am, Sun Jul 20, 2014.

By Rick Manning

Lois Lerner was apparently patient zero of deadly computer viruses within the United States government as it has been learned that some of her former colleagues at the Federal Election Commission also mysteriously lost their computer hard drives. Of course, they had to be destroyed as well.

The evidence must be pretty damning to have involved what appears pretty clearly to be an interdepartmental cover up.

Two separate federal courts are now involved demanding an explanation from the IRS about how they could have destroyed all of the pertinent records in the case due to separate cases filed by Judicial Watch and True the Vote.

Now in a bi-partisan vote, the House of Representatives has signaled that they have had enough, going on a cutting frenzy on the IRS' enforcement budget.

Representative Paul Gosar (R-AZ) started the action by authoring a $353 million cut saying, "The use of a government agency to harass, target, intimidate and threaten lawful, honest citizens was the worst form of authoritarianism." Rep. Bill Huizenga, R-Mich., followed up with an amendment to cut an additional $788 million, all on top of the $72 million cut from last year's $5 billion enforcement budget in the underlying bill. The overall cuts to the IRS's enforcement budget when the smoke cleared — $1.2 billion or 25 percent, all on a voice vote.

The IRS abuse of power has gotten so politically toxic that no Democrat wanted to be on the record voting to defend them, allowing them to go forward without a recorded objection.

The news is even worse for Lerner personally, whose pension would be defunded under the House passed legislation so long as she remains in contempt of Congress.

And with the IRS abuse extending well beyond Lois Lerner's reach to other divisions within the Agency, the House also voted to stop career employees at the rogue Agency from receiving merit bonuses this year.

This last act will likely create a firestorm of whistleblowers coming forward to tell the truth about the Agency's abuse of power and the political motivations behind it, as angry civil servants react to getting hit in the pocketbook due to the malfeasance of others.

We also know in a separate federal court room earlier this month, the IRS is being brought to heel in a case of political targeting unrelated to conservative groups, but instead focusing upon a pro-Israel group that was also abused for their political beliefs.

Yet, even as the IRS house of cards collapses, the obvious question is how far up the chain of command at the White House did this scandal go?

We know that IRS officials had hundreds of meetings with the White House during this time period, and we know that then press secretary Jay Carney admitted that there was at least one White House meeting about the targeting of conservative groups prior to Lois Lerner's initial revelation to the public.

With the across the government lengths that have been taken to cover up this abuse of power only the most naïve would not ask who they were trying to protect?

It should be an interesting few months.

Rick Manning is the vice president of public policy and communications for Americans for Limited Government.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: corruption; defund; irs; loislerner; scandal

1 posted on 07/20/2014 7:05:46 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: smoothsailing
The news is even worse for Lerner personally, whose pension would be defunded under the House passed legislation so long as she remains in contempt of Congress. And with the IRS abuse extending well beyond Lois Lerner's reach to other divisions within the Agency, the House also voted to stop career employees at the rogue Agency from receiving merit bonuses this year.

Is this true?

2 posted on 07/20/2014 7:09:14 PM PDT by uncitizen (Buckle up! We're on the Facism Fast Track!)
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To: uncitizen

I don’t know, but I sure hope so.


3 posted on 07/20/2014 7:14:17 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: uncitizen

It’s nonsense.

Key words: “so long as she remains in contempt of Congress.”

When this mess is all wrapped up, she’ll be “no longer in contempt” and all her precious gold-plated pension will be returned, probably with some kind of bonus.

Not only that, but I wouldn’t be surprised if every single IRS employee gets put on the “bonus list.” Something like 90% of them already are.


4 posted on 07/20/2014 7:14:56 PM PDT by Steely Tom (How do you feel about robbing Peter's robot?)
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To: uncitizen

The House doesn’t get to make such decisions on their own. What they’ve voted on is a PROPOSAL. Doesn’t mean anything coming from the Boehner gang.


5 posted on 07/20/2014 7:18:06 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: smoothsailing
I wonder where she learned that Mussolini pose?


6 posted on 07/20/2014 7:18:21 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: shibumi
Yet, even as the IRS house of cards collapses, the obvious question is how far up the chain of command at the White House did this scandal go?

The obvious answer is all the way to the top. The only person served by the soiliation of evidence at the IRS, EPA and FEC is Barack Obama. A criminal convcition can be sustained on CIRCUMSTANTIAL EVIDENCE. there is enough of same to convict Obama, or at least drive him from office, if all the Rs would get on Palin's page. Direct evidence is not required.

7 posted on 07/20/2014 7:28:42 PM PDT by LALALAW (one of the asses who's sick of our "ruling" classes)
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To: uncitizen

We can hope but I am sure the insane man in the senate will find a way to block it


8 posted on 07/20/2014 7:31:41 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: LALALAW

If you put the soldiers in prison, they will give up the Capos. If you imprison the Capos, they will give up the Don.


9 posted on 07/20/2014 7:32:59 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: uncitizen

There should be an across the board 20% pay cut on all salaries greater than, say, $80k.

Until the truth is learned, or until the national debt is paid off, whichever comes first.


10 posted on 07/20/2014 7:35:41 PM PDT by RBroadfoot
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To: smoothsailing
Yet, even as the IRS house of cards collapses, the obvious question is how far up the chain of command at the White House did this scandal go?

Not so fast. It hasn't collapsed yet.

11 posted on 07/20/2014 7:35:54 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: LALALAW
Direct evidence is not required.

"High crimes and misdemeanors", like "good behavior" for judges, was deliberately left vague by the Founding Fathers. They understood that no number of laws or procedures could define or prevent all cases of the calamitous abuse of power, so wrote in a political safeguard.

12 posted on 07/20/2014 7:37:37 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: smoothsailing

as angry civil servants react to getting hit in the pocketbook due to the malfeasance of others.


This is why I need anti-psychotics (anybody have any?): THEIR
pocketbooks? THEIR POCKETBOOKS?


13 posted on 07/20/2014 7:46:43 PM PDT by txhurl (2014: Stunned Voters do Stunning Things!)
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To: smoothsailing

Remember, the first conspirator to turn states evidence gets the best plea deal and most of the rest go to jail.


14 posted on 07/20/2014 7:47:17 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: uncitizen

> The news is even worse for Lerner personally, whose pension would be defunded under the House passed legislation so long as she remains in contempt of Congress. And with the IRS abuse extending well beyond Lois Lerner’s reach to other divisions within the Agency, the House also voted to stop career employees at the rogue Agency from receiving merit bonuses this year.
Is this true?

If so, the evidence must be damning enough for her to serve jail time and name other co-conspirators all the way up to the WH. I’m sure 0 has promised a severance package that will cover her pension if she shuts her mouth.


15 posted on 07/20/2014 7:54:32 PM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: shibumi
I wonder where she learned that Mussolini pose?

I don't know, but I bet Obama thinks she's a good Lerner!

 photo oba_zps8dc182f7.jpg photo Lo_zps54bef6d7.jpg

16 posted on 07/20/2014 7:57:36 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: jjotto

Exactly right and misdemeanor is defined loosely as poor judgement or any unacceptable behavior including incompetence. Obama easily qualifies for impeachment just on the Bergdahl case alone let alone his erasure of the southern border, Fast and Furious, unacceptably lavish vacations, Cash for Clunkers, Benghazi, IRS targeting. Iraq abandonment, - the list is incomprehensibly long - better play the race card ( which is impeachable too)


17 posted on 07/20/2014 8:21:22 PM PDT by atc23 (The Confederacy was the single greatest conservative resistance to federal authority ever)
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To: morphing libertarian

“they will give up the Capos. If you imprison the Capos, they will give up the Don.”

Back in the day when even criminals were more honorable, if people in the mob had to go “upstate/downstate” (depending on state), you shut up, did your time, your family would be taken care of while you were “away”. It was like “jail insurance”. This is somewhat similar to what the politicians do now, except with favors, speaking engagements, no-show “consulting contracts”, etc.


18 posted on 07/20/2014 8:25:44 PM PDT by The Antiyuppie ("When small men cast long shadows, then it is very late in the day.")
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To: smoothsailing
The IRS abuse of power has gotten so politically toxic that no Democrat wanted
to be on the record voting to defend them, allowing them to go forward without a recorded objection.


See now? How difficult was that. Feel better? WE DON'T!

Hey Bonehead Boehner, IMPEACH THAT BASTARD IN THE OVAL OFFICE!

19 posted on 07/20/2014 8:26:13 PM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: smoothsailing

I’m going to go way out on the limb here and predict that not only will Lerner’s pension never be defunded, but that she will never see the inside of a jail cell either.

Why not? Because these things depend on three things:

1. Republicans winning the Senate in 2014 (and keeping the House)
2. Republicans winning the Presidency in 2016
3. Republicans having the balls to go after her.

#1 and 2, may come to pass. Who is optimistic about #3?


20 posted on 07/20/2014 8:27:43 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: shibumi

Every time I see him strike that pose, I just get so irritated that US voters fell for that TWICE!!


21 posted on 07/20/2014 8:28:04 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: smoothsailing
The news is even worse for Lerner personally, whose pension would be defunded under the House passed legislation so long as she remains in contempt of Congress.

Don't stop with her.. that action is long overdue. Government employees using their power for personal gain, to harass citizens, or whatever wrong doing, that can be proved, should forfeit all benefits.

22 posted on 07/20/2014 8:54:27 PM PDT by WilliamofCarmichael (If modern America's Man on Horseback is out there, Get on the damn horse already!)
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To: smoothsailing

She’ll probably just get a 7-figure contract with a leftist think-tank or something


23 posted on 07/20/2014 9:02:21 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

If the Repubs take her pension away, the Dems will tell her to sit tight, they will see to it she is taken care of.


24 posted on 07/20/2014 9:16:50 PM PDT by JohnnyP
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To: smoothsailing

It’s us against them.

With few exceptions, The Washingtonians from both parties intend to steal everything not nailed down from those outside DC and then bug out under military protection when the collapse comes and the riots start.

An electorate that elected Clinton and Obama twice and gave algore the popular vote is no different than the Venezuelans and Cubans electing Chavez and Castro; stupid and dangerous.

Its time to think about ways to accelerate the collapse because only then can the Republic be reset and the Franchise limited as the Founders intended.

Honest Ape mortally wounded the Republic, the last 150 years has been merely death rattle.


25 posted on 07/20/2014 9:24:01 PM PDT by Rome2000
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To: The Antiyuppie

The new school gives it up


26 posted on 07/20/2014 9:30:43 PM PDT by morphing libertarian (Advanced technological development.)
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To: uncitizen

the House also voted to stop career employees at the rogue Agency from receiving merit bonuses this year.”

IMO no government employee should EVER get a merit bonus unless the government debt is at zero. If we have a surplus of money, it should go back to the taxpayers - not the employees.


27 posted on 07/20/2014 9:57:54 PM PDT by Grams A (The Sun will rise in the East in the morning and God is still on his throne.)
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To: smoothsailing

I was at a gun range and had a legal gun. But the idiot there in charge started a fight with me as to the legality of my contraption, threatening to call ATF.

The IrS and these types are hired as idiot ignoramuses because the force of Obama is to create “tragedies” and misleadings of these kinds. This communist hell hole situation and sociology is what we really need to focus on.


28 posted on 07/21/2014 12:49:47 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Steely Tom

It helps to read the column before posting.


29 posted on 07/21/2014 12:49:53 AM PDT by Jacquerie (Article V. If not now, when?)
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To: smoothsailing

no government is better than drunk idiots full of moneys calling shots.

wtf America.


30 posted on 07/21/2014 12:52:01 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: Steely Tom

Pearls to swines will trample us indeed.

Tell an idiot he is not qualified anymore and must get his or her money taken out, and you have a Wisconsin style invasion of Congress.

this government is waging civil war on its own nation.


31 posted on 07/21/2014 12:54:26 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: smoothsailing

“the obvious question is how far up the chain of command at the White House did this scandal go?”

I’d be willing to bet it went all the way up the GOP_e side of the house and senate.


32 posted on 07/21/2014 1:36:12 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: bigbob

“Who is optimistic about #3?”

Not I. I suspect they would be shooting themselves in the foot there.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 1:38:21 AM PDT by jacknhoo (Luke 12:51. Think ye, that I am come to give peace on earth? I tell you, no; but separation.)
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To: WilliamofCarmichael
Government employees using their power for personal gain, to harass citizens, or whatever wrong doing, that can be proved, should forfeit all benefits.

Absolutely, and it bears repeating.

34 posted on 07/21/2014 1:42:18 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: smoothsailing

Budgets have to be passed by the Senate and signed by the President.

Good luck with that.

The denizens of Fedzilla know this, so they will continue being in contempt of Congress.

Even if the Courts step in and order the arrest of these lawbreakers (very unlikely), good luck finding anyone in the Justice Dept. to carry out the orders.

This is just grandstanding.

Much more needs to be done.

It may be time for a coup d’etat, because the corruption is so pervasive. But that brings its own dangers with it.

What happened is that we no longer have a government that plays by its own rules (The U.S. Constitution), so all bets are off.

Good luck with reestablishing a government that will honor and obey and enforce the U.S. Constitution.


35 posted on 07/21/2014 2:41:54 AM PDT by Westbrook (Children do not divide your love, they multiply it.)
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To: smoothsailing
The overall cuts to the IRS's enforcement budget when the smoke cleared — $1.2 billion or 25 percent, all on a voice vote.

wow. for real? It's about time Congress reminded agencies who created them and who they report to.

36 posted on 07/21/2014 2:52:04 AM PDT by blueplum
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To: blueplum

Is anyone in JAIL yet?

IS anyone?


37 posted on 07/21/2014 3:34:16 AM PDT by Diogenesis (The EXEMPT Congress is complicit in the absence of impeachment)
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To: T-Bird45

And they’ll fall for it again, and again, and again.....
because they love Progressives.

IMHO


38 posted on 07/21/2014 4:58:54 AM PDT by ripley
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To: All
THE SMOKING GUN---IRS Sharing Personal Income Tax Information with the Census Bureau

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LEST YOU FORGET..THE KINGPINS OF CHICAGO CRIMINAL POLITICS IN OUR WH wasted no time.....they had a stranglehold on the Census (AND US Treasury) from day one.

The minute Obama/Valerie/Rahm/Axelrod/Geithner, and that diseased bunch of criminals, landed in the WH they did two things that were apparently crucial to their evil plans

(a) they took control of the US Census;

(b) Obama placed his COS Rahm Emanuel in control of the US Dept of the Treasury (the IRS).

THE SMOKING GUN---WSJ REPORT--On Jan 20, 2009 Timothy Geithner was appointed Obama's Secy of the Treasury. But within three weeks, the Obama White House tightened its grip on Treasury. Obama put his COS, Rahm Emanuel, in charge of Treasury---Rahm Emanuel's dual role was an unusual move.

When he got to Treasury, WH COS Rahm Emanuel was so involved in the inner workings of the Treasury that the phrase "Rahm wants it" had become an unofficial mantra among subservient govt staffers, prostrate in obeisance, scurrying to accede to Rahm's wishes, according to Treasury government officials. Reported by WSJ / 05/31/09

More here: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124113406528875137.html

The connection between the IRS targeting and the WH's malevolent parasites at Treasury becomes clearer.

================================================

THIS MADE ME LAUGH OUT LOUD shortly after quitting his powerful WH job as Obama's COS, Rahm held a presser declaring he "just remembered" he really, Really wanted to be Mayor of Chicago. Then Rahm announced he had magically "raised" $10 million for his campaign in "just a matter of weeks." (waiting for hysterical laughter to die down). Ya gotta wonder how much Wall Street Rahm wired offshore when Obama put him in charge of the entire US Treasury.

39 posted on 07/21/2014 5:55:12 AM PDT by Liz (Another Clinton administration? Are you nuts?)
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