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The Russian Public Has a Totally Different Understanding of What Happened to MH17
TNR ^ | 07/21/2014 | Julia Ioffe

Posted on 07/21/2014 7:45:35 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Did you know Malaysia Air Flight 17 was full of corpses when it took off from Amsterdam? Did you know that, for some darkly inexplicable reason, on July 17, MH17 moved off the standard flight path that it had taken every time before, and moved north, toward rebel-held areas outside Donetsk? Or that the dispatchers summoned the plane lower just before the crash? Or that the plane had been recently reinsured? Or that the Ukrainian army has air defense systems in the area? Or that it was the result of the Ukrainian military mistaking MH17 for Putin’s presidential plane, which looks strangely similar?

Did you know that the crash of MH17 was all part of an American conspiracy to provoke a big war with Russia?

Well, it’s all trueat least if you live in Russia, because this is the Malaysia Airlines crash story that you’d be seeing.

As the crisis surrounding the plane crash deepens and as calls for Vladimir Putin to act grow louder, it’s worth noting that they’re not really getting through to Putin’s subjects. The picture of the catastrophe that the Russian people are seeing on their television screens is very different from that on screens in much of the rest of the world, and the discrepancy does not bode well for a sane resolution to this stand-off.

Western media has been vacillating for days between calling Putin a murderer and peppering their coverage with allegedlys, telling the heart-rending tales of the victims, scrounging for anonymous leaks to link the Russians to the downed jet, and punditizing about exit ramps.

But in Russia, television—most of it owned or controlled by the Kremlin—is trying to muddy the water with various experts


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TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: malaysiaairlines; mh17; russia; ukraine
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To: ilovesarah2012

They weren’t. Some of those passengers might have begun their trips in the US, I guess and that was probably where the information came from.


21 posted on 07/21/2014 8:40:11 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

Absolutely.


22 posted on 07/21/2014 8:40:19 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

These are the first questions that goes through the mind of the Leftist media before they utter one word on a story:

- How will the truth of this information advance our Leftist agenda?
- If not, now can we modify this into “truth” that will?


23 posted on 07/21/2014 8:41:14 AM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

yes.

The Russian media is almost totally controlled from the Kremlin these days.


24 posted on 07/21/2014 8:41:19 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
So...the Rooskie media is corrupt, too ?

"Our" media revered and emulated the Soviet state propaganda model with predictable results.

25 posted on 07/21/2014 8:46:52 AM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There were never such reports in European press. As far as I remember it was just ABC News that wrote Americans instead of Australians.


26 posted on 07/21/2014 8:49:04 AM PDT by Krosan
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To: fwdude

And the narrative is laid out between all sources that will be used to shape public opinion to buy their horsecrap.

I am always skeptical when all the ducks in a row are laid out and decided on instantaneously.

There is a truth out there, but I doubt we will ever really get the facts. This will blow over when the next crisis hits. Probably won’t be long. It is nonstop.

CNN will speculate for weeks in order to bypass the other news. LOL Pretty soon they will have a space ship probably done it.


27 posted on 07/21/2014 8:50:23 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Krosan

FOX also reported 23 dead Americans. Unconfirmed though.


28 posted on 07/21/2014 8:51:22 AM PDT by dforest
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To: DManA

I’d forgotten about that.
I’m wondering if the baggage had Kuala Lumper to Beijing tags?


29 posted on 07/21/2014 9:15:21 AM PDT by jim999
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

RE: So...the Rooskie media is corrupt, too ?

PRAVDA has always been LOZH’ in reality.


30 posted on 07/21/2014 9:15:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: GeronL; Eric in the Ozarks; dforest

RE: The Russian media is almost totally controlled from the Kremlin these days.

Any Russian reporter who tries to report the truth suddenly finds himself or herself DEAD.

The list is so long that I can’t even post it here.

But click on this link to see their names and under what circumstances they died:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_journalists_killed_in_Russia


31 posted on 07/21/2014 9:19:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: SeekAndFind

One Putin opponent was poisoned with radiation until he turned blue!


32 posted on 07/21/2014 9:22:19 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

You mean like Andrew Breibart and that other journalist in the car crash in California? Our media is almost all run out of the WH anymore.

I am fully aware of all the propaganda news media from almost all countries. You don’t look to them for the truth.

The truth is somewhere between all the lines.


33 posted on 07/21/2014 9:23:54 AM PDT by dforest
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To: SeekAndFind

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russian_media#Ownership_structure

The top TV networks and news services are state-owned


34 posted on 07/21/2014 9:48:01 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: AppyPappy
Apparently ron paul is working very hard to make that association.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/ron-paul-defends-russia-malaysian-151731466.html

35 posted on 07/21/2014 9:55:51 AM PDT by pfflier
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To: fwdude

It really wasn’t the media that reported that. The guy bragged about it online before the flight was reported gone.


36 posted on 07/21/2014 10:09:01 AM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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