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University of Wisconsin's latest diversity plan calls for "equity" in the distribution of grades.
The John William Pope Center ^ | July 16, 2014 | W. Lee Hansen

Posted on 07/22/2014 7:09:10 AM PDT by Conservative Beacon

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To: The Sons of Liberty

You really think the academic mentality is any different at universities in the south? Allrighty then!


21 posted on 07/22/2014 7:40:39 AM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Conservative Beacon
Honestly, I first was sure this was satire and wasn't going to respond. If it is satire, you got me.

"Grade Distribution" used to be a great way to explain taxation and income and wealth distribution to kids who've never had a job. Sports examples work well, too.

Usually, they know how hard it can be to EARN a good grade, especially in a difficult subject, and they usually are also familiar with slackers and with getting poor grades from not doing the work.

Unless they are a natural born slacker, the idea of taking their hard earned As and distributing them to the rest of the class so that everyone else gets a B usually makes them unhappy.

It's good to learn this lesson early. Our world would look much better now if more had.

Oh well...maybe a future generation will benefit from our example: From landing on the moon to crazier than a loon in less than half a lifetime! How fast and how hard the once mighty fall.

22 posted on 07/22/2014 7:44:08 AM PDT by GBA (Here in the Matrix, life is but a dream.)
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To: Conservative Beacon

This is a misleading title. The university wants to have minorities be able to get the same grades as majorities (and Asians). I posted this on the first thread on this topic last night:

The response from the university is here:

http://www.news.wisc.edu/23011

(excerpt) “The report is intended to help members of the campus community contribute to making UW-Madison more equitable, inclusive, and diverse, both on campus and to the broader community. Contrary to Hansen’s claims, our framework absolutely does not extend to how instructors should or could grade students.”

The actual report is just the kind of liberal, feel-good BS about providing more support for minorities who might not be able to handle college education.

found here: http://diversityframework.wisc.edu/documents/FrameworkforDiversityMay192014_2.pdf


23 posted on 07/22/2014 7:47:12 AM PDT by VanShuyten ("a shadow...draped nobly in the folds of a gorgeous eloquence.")
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To: GBA; All

Everyone gets a diploma!

Next up, salaries.


24 posted on 07/22/2014 7:48:48 AM PDT by PenguinM
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To: Conservative Beacon

Related headline:

UW-Madison policy calls on professors to distribute grades based on race
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3183359/posts


25 posted on 07/22/2014 8:00:35 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: PenguinM

Now an employer has yet another thing to avoid in a hiree...if they have a U of WI degree. If you hire them you must like trouble.


26 posted on 07/22/2014 8:02:20 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Eva

If these people are our future, it looks bleak.


27 posted on 07/22/2014 8:03:19 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Conservative Beacon

Great! I would expect the Badgers to lobby for an equitable distribution of touchdowns when the season starts.


28 posted on 07/22/2014 8:07:00 AM PDT by tbpiper
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To: Conservative Beacon
“[p]laces the mission of diversity at the center of institutional life so that it becomes a core organizing principle.”

Coupling the "mission of diversity" with the concept of a "core organizing principle," is an excellent example of totally confused thinking. For a detailed discussion of how the Left uses the pursuit of diversity to undermine both actual diversity & the social cohesion of diverse elements of our societies, see Putting "Diversity" Into Context.

Suggesting some form of grade cheapening, of course, is a further insult to those deemed to be needed to secure that idiotic "mission."

William Flax

29 posted on 07/22/2014 8:08:24 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: FatherofFive

Do you know what they call the guy who graduates dead last in medical school?

Doctor.


30 posted on 07/22/2014 8:10:28 AM PDT by pgyanke (Republicans get in trouble when not living up to their principles. Democrats... when they do.)
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To: Da Coyote

I’m none too fond of driving across ‘equity grade’ constructed bridges or flying on ‘equity grade’ built planes.


31 posted on 07/22/2014 8:10:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GreyFriar

“Tell the full tenured professors that this will be approved as soon as they agree to share their salaries with the lowest teaching assistant and that all instructors at Wisconsin will get the same pay and benefits: And it is be from averaging all levels of pay and benefits will all getting the average, and NO more.”

Adding to your excellent pay equity proposal we need equality of job content and work hours. These tenured professors and administrators have taken advantage of teaching assistants and adjuncts for years. They are state employees so the legislature should require all of them be in the classroom teaching 6 hours per day and in their offices available to students 2 hours per day. Any extracurricular endeavors (book writing, speeches outside the university, research trips, sabbaticals, or consulting) should take place off the university clock during weekends, vacation time, or unpaid leave of absences. In addition, they should have the same type of offices and office furnishings as adjuncts and teaching assistants. These liberal professors want equality in the workplace. The legislature should give it to them in pay, work hours, and working conditions.


32 posted on 07/22/2014 8:14:56 AM PDT by Soul of the South (Yesterday is gone. Today will be what we make of it.)
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To: GBA
"Grade Distribution" used to be a great way to explain taxation and income and wealth distribution to kids who've never had a job.

I've used that an example to teach my 6th graders what socialism is all about. I only have them for an hour once a week during the school year, and our Old Testament curriculum is packed.

When I take 20% of hard-working Maria's 100% to give to slacker Jimmy's 60% to "even things out", they get the point very quickly. lol

33 posted on 07/22/2014 8:15:00 AM PDT by Night Hides Not (Remember the Alamo! Remember Goliad! Remember Mississippi!)
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To: Foundahardheadedwoman

It is not just the universities that are moving away from grades, it is unions, as well. The left would like to see promotion by seniority in union jobs, no testing.

They pushing hard for a federalized union for all first responders, police, fire fighters and para medics, which would no only spread the costs of expensive urban benefit packages to rural areas, the union would also control the hiring and promotions. In other words, the jobs would go to city union members and promotion would be by seniority only.


34 posted on 07/22/2014 8:29:59 AM PDT by Eva
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To: Eva

At the core all unions are based on Communism and we are now seeing the masks drop away. I did not know this, so thanks. One more thing to worry about. Ban unions, they are nothing more than criminal enterprises.


35 posted on 07/22/2014 8:34:41 AM PDT by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: Conservative Beacon

I wonder what happens if you are one black genius, in a class of average white students. Does the black genius get a C?


36 posted on 07/22/2014 8:40:40 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: rdcbn
It’s been this way a Harvard for the last 30 years

Why would you say something so patently untrue?

37 posted on 07/22/2014 8:46:15 AM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Conservative Beacon
"equity" in high-demand majors and the distribution of grades.

This is a version of the equality of opportunity doctrine.This doctrine appears to represent justice only on the basis of a thoroughly confused view of the nature of opportunities and the causes of human success.

In any given instance,an opportunity is the result of a combination of external circumstances and the skills and abilities an individual possess,such that he is able to exploit the circumstances to his advantage. An opportunity is a product in the sense that the skill and abilities an individual possesses are the result of his successful exploitation of previous lesser opportunities.

Opportunities are never a matter merely of external circumstances that are served up on a plate, as it were by some "distributor", such as a professor or teacher. They always depend on what the individual himself brings to the external circumstance in the of skills and abilities.These skills and abilities are in turn the cumulative product of what the individual has done with his life to that point.

38 posted on 07/22/2014 8:47:04 AM PDT by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Conservative Beacon

All this will boil down to is “Yeah, but did you get a White 4.0 or a Black 4.0?”


39 posted on 07/22/2014 8:52:41 AM PDT by A_perfect_lady
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To: SoCal Pubbie
You really think the academic mentality is any different at universities in the south? Allrighty then!

Ever been to a Southern University? I've been to universities in the west (California) upper Midwest and midwest and the South. They don't teach espouse that liberal crap in the South - at least not the good schools.

40 posted on 07/22/2014 9:01:48 AM PDT by The Sons of Liberty (I want 0bama to make history - First to be IMPEACHED and REMOVED!)
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