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The Malaysia Airlines crash is the end of Russia’s fairy tale
The Washington Post ^ | July 18, 2014 | Anne Applebaum

Posted on 07/25/2014 8:46:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Before there is any further discussion of Malaysia Airlines Flight 17, it’s important that one point be made absolutely clear:

This plane crash is a result of the Russian invasion of eastern Ukraine, an operation deliberately designed to create legal, political and military chaos.

Without this chaos, a surface-to-air missile would not have been fired at a passenger plane.

From the beginning, the Russian government did not send regular soldiers to Ukraine. Instead, it sent Russian mercenaries and security service operatives such as Igor Strelkov — the commander in chief in Donetsk and a Russian secret police colonel who fought in both Chechen wars ...

With the help of local thugs, these Russian security men besieged police stations, government offices and other symbols of political authority to delegitimize the Ukrainian state.

In this task, they were assisted by the Russian government and by Russia’s state-controlled mass media, both of which still constantly denigrate Ukraine ...

Into this ambiguous and unstable situation, the Russians cynically funneled a stream of heavy weapons: machine guns and artillery and, eventually, tanks, armed personnel carriers and anti-aircraft missiles....

Indeed, Strelkov on Thursday afternoon reportedly boasted online of having taken down another military plane before realizing that the plane in question was MH17. The blog post was removed.

In late June, several different Russian media sources published photographs of Buk anti-aircraft missiles that they said had been captured by the separatists — though they were probably outright gifts from Russia. These posts have also been removed.

This is the context within which a surface-to-air missile was aimed at a passenger plane: a lawless environment; irregular soldiers who might not be so good at reading radar; a nihilistic disregard for human life; scorn for international norms, rules or standards ....

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: mh17
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1 posted on 07/25/2014 8:46:33 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

It wasn’t a ‘crash’........................


2 posted on 07/25/2014 8:51:24 AM PDT by Red Badger (If you compromise with evil, you just get more evil..........................)
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To: Uncle Chip

Man, the Washington Post and New York Times sure have become a popular source for truthful news lately on FR.


3 posted on 07/25/2014 8:53:38 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

Would you prefer Russia Today or Pravda???


4 posted on 07/25/2014 8:56:12 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: dforest
"Man, the Washington Post and New York Times sure have become a popular source for truthful news lately on FR."

They're feeling jilted by their boy Pooty Poot.

5 posted on 07/25/2014 9:01:35 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: Rashputin

ping —


6 posted on 07/25/2014 9:03:42 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Red Badger
"It wasn’t a ‘crash’....."

Well, sure it was - after it was blown out of the air the remnants crashed to the ground....

7 posted on 07/25/2014 9:06:39 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: Uncle Chip
We will also learn something interesting about the Russian president. So far there is no sign of shock or shame in Russia. But in truth, this tragedy offers Vladimir Putin an opportunity to get out of the messy disaster he created in eastern Ukraine. He has the perfect excuse to denounce the separatist movement and to cut its supplies. If he refuses, then we know that he remains profoundly dedicated to the chaos and nihilism he created in Donetsk. We can assume he intends to perpetuate it elsewhere. And if we are not prepared to fight it, we should be braced for it to spread.

Putin has an excuse to get out. Will he do it?

8 posted on 07/25/2014 9:08:17 AM PDT by No One Special
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To: dforest; Uncle Chip
Would you prefer Russia Today or Pravda???
July 25, 2014
rt.com
Is Kiev lying? Or is Kiev lying?
9 posted on 07/25/2014 9:10:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: dforest
Man, the Washington Post and New York Times sure have become a popular source for truthful news lately on FR.

What news? That Russians are immoral brutal thugs? Everybody knows that already.

10 posted on 07/25/2014 9:11:23 AM PDT by Samogon (Wise men talk because they have something to say; fools, because they have to say something. - Plato)
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To: Uncle Chip
We're seeing the real Putin and the real Russia. See the link:

http://news.malaysia.msn.com/tmi/mh17-victim%E2%80%99s-credit-cards-used-after-crash-says-report

11 posted on 07/25/2014 9:14:02 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: dforest

Well, as many Putinistas feel good about getting their truth straight from the Putin-approved sources, some people might want other sources not under his control.


12 posted on 07/25/2014 9:16:46 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: Enterprise

“They’re feeling jilted by their boy Pooty Poot. “

A few here had tingle up their leg from Pootie Poot.


13 posted on 07/25/2014 9:17:40 AM PDT by HereInTheHeartland (Obama lied; our healthcare died.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

I think there is a whole lot of lying going on by both sides and we are all being played.

One thing is certain. I stick to the rules. If Obama and his media are acting hawkish and all at once acting like they care about some country, something ain’t right. That means I should remain skeptical because they are up to something.

There is an invasion and occupation by Mexico and Central America going on on our border orchestrated by Obama. I won’t hold my breath that we will have another nation running to our aid.


14 posted on 07/25/2014 9:17:45 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest

Most of them are calling him on his incompetence. Probably, you want him incompetent so Putin will succeed.


15 posted on 07/25/2014 9:21:16 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: dforest
I think there is a whole lot of lying going on by both sides

Congratulations!!!

Your status has been officially upgraded to Useful Idiot by the Kremlin.

Please continue ...

16 posted on 07/25/2014 9:21:25 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Whatever scooter. LOL

I am sticking to it.

Keep your eyes on the border, our border. I suggest they do the same on their border.

You always justify your Obamabot, RINO stance by calling people Russian agents or ridiculous names.

At least you are consistent.


17 posted on 07/25/2014 9:24:57 AM PDT by dforest
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To: elhombrelibre

LOL, funny dude


18 posted on 07/25/2014 9:26:05 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest
You always justify your Obamabot, RINO stance by calling people Russian agents or ridiculous names.

That's the ticket --

Keep posting stuff like that and your status will be bumped again.

19 posted on 07/25/2014 9:28:56 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: dforest
Sounds like Ole Uncle Chip is one right off the ole O’Block.
What a troll.......It is appearing that FR is home to a growing number of fools who seem to fallen in line with the USA official position of demonizing Putin.
I'm with you dforest. There is a lot of BS goin around.
I suspect that the Russians are playing a role as is the US/EU. the end result is destruction and a NEW WORLD ORDER!
20 posted on 07/25/2014 9:31:33 AM PDT by free from tyranny
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