Skip to comments.New IRS Form Proves Obama Lied About Individual Mandate Tax (Baghdad Barry an all time low)
Posted on 07/25/2014 6:54:45 PM PDT by Kid Shelleen
On Thursday the IRS released a slew of draft 2014 tax forms. The new draft Form 1040 shows a new surtax line has been created for the payment of the individual mandate surtax see line 61 of the 1040:
President Obama has repeatedly denied that the surtax is in fact actually a tax. The most prominent example was a heated exchange on ABCs This Week in Sept. 2009, when George Stephanopoulos confronted Obama with a dictionary:
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Skip right over that line.
And if they raise a stink, skip the entire form. Pay your state taxes.
Wasn’t this cleared up by John Roberts? It’s a tax.
The boy has been lying since he left Bill Ayers’ house in Chicago.
So instead of saving your family $2500 there’s a $2500 penalty on poor people and the rest of us are paying 40% insurance increases?
Nice job, Barry!
It’s a tax and has to be represented as such. Which is exactly what the democrat fascists wanted to avoid by just showing it as another deduction like SS on your pay stub.
Hell I’m not going to be able to afford to pay for Obamacare in addition to my regular bills which are tretched to the limit after sitting down and trimming everything every bill and getting rid of everything we don’t need. Hell if he makes me pay of $2,500 per head penalty in our household there’s no way we can do it. I’m guessing this is going to be the situation in most households that actually pay taxes in 2014. The IRS and the Feds are about to shoot themselves in the foot and a$$ at the same time because they got too greedy. End result. Tons of liens to file. No one with money to pay them though.
Hell Im not going to be able to afford to pay for Obamacare in addition to my regular bills which are stretched to the limit after sitting down and trimming and getting rid of everything we dont need. Hell if he makes me pay of $2,500 per head penalty in our household theres no way we can do it. Im guessing this is going to be the situation in most households that actually pay taxes in 2014. The IRS and the Feds are about to shoot themselves in the foot and a$$ at the same time because they got too greedy. End result. Tons of liens to file. No one with money to pay them though.
39% approval and heading to the teens.
Obama in 2009: “Absolutely Not a Tax Increase”
As the law stands right now, the only way the IRS can enforce nonpayment of the penalty is to take it out of any refund you may get. No other way. Not a lien on your home or taking it from your bank account. Not jail either. Unless of course...the dictator changes the law again with his pen and his phone.
Trust me I won’t get a refund. I’m a white, Christian male that pays taxes for the takers and the 1 %’ers who use excessive deductions to almost pay none.
Bingo. During the debate over Obamacare, Rats argued every which way to Sunday that it was NOT a tax-it was a mandate-because they had to give cover to the Rats on the fence.
In their argument before the SCOTUS, it was a tax. Roberts bought it.
Clintons tried to deduct $2 for underwear they donated to charity.
I wouldn't even give a sawbuck for Bubba's party pants or the baglady's triple extra large bloomers.
Yes, after the Senate deemed Obamacare into existence, John Roberts deemed the Obamacare fine a tax.
God deem them.
Ok, so you check the “full year’s coverage” box and then you owe nothing.... or does the gestapo have to have proof of coverage in their massive illegal database.
Lots of people are not going to comply with this filing— and there is NO enforcement provision for collection except by withholding a refund.
Am I right on all this cpa freepers?
And they can’t take it out of social security payments?
Only the voluntary withholdings from social security, which would not “pay” the fine.
This is a subject of great concern. Knowledge of it allows for civil disobedience to an illegal tax.
USED silk f’n underwear and the a-hole took deductions for them. Unbelievable, washed or not— who would knowingly accept them. Disgusting.
check out the 1095 forms required in 2016
I changed with holding on my check, NO REFUND breaking even!!!!
Government NO LONGER using my money all year I am happy NO
At the end of the form it will show total tax owed. The O care part will not be differentiated. It will make for some strange accounting practices to backtrack and figure out which part they can’t penalize. Because I bet there won’t be aline at the end of the form which states “This part can’t be penalized”.
So, I see the SCOTUS going 4-4 that the law says exactly what it says. That leaves it up to Roberts, again. He already said the fines are taxes. By similar argument, the subsidies are tax *credits*, meaning they are taxes in reverse.
So, if he rules in favor of Halbig, the entire structure of Obamacare is unconstitutional on the basis of unequal federal tax treatment based on state of residence. That would violate the 14th Amendment.
But, Roberts clearly does not want to declare the law unconstitutional. So, what tortuous reasoning could he use to say that the law doesn’t say what it says? He did it once, he conceivably could do it again.
Roberts’ first line of reasoning (re the mandates being a tax) have opened up the entire can of worms we’re seeing now via Halbig, etc.
With his first ruling, Roberts opened up the Pandora’s Box of equal federal tax treatment. Some post-analyses of Robert’s decision said Robert’s ruling was going to mean big trouble for the law down the road and they were right. It’s taken years to see that come to fruition, but it’s finally here.
What the feds are doing now by applying the tax credits equally to residents of all states WOULD pass constitutional muster. Big problem is that is contrary to ACA wording, no two ways about it.
These tax credit challenge cases may not even be taken up by SCOTUS, depending on what the en banc DC Circuit decides.
If the full DC Circuit upholds the previous three judge panel decision, then I don’t think SCOTUS would even take the case. They won’t want to get into the realm of rewriting law and will just tell Congress to fix it, but for now the law must be enforced as written.
I wonder how many people have not/will not sign up for ObamaCare. I don’t see any reporting of this. Perhaps no one knows.