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As nations seek more MH17 access, rebels reportedly getting impatient
CNN ^ | July 2014 | Jason Hanna and Jethro Mullen

Posted on 07/26/2014 4:25:22 AM PDT by Uncle Chip

Even as investigators say they need more access to bodies and wreckage from last week's Malaysia Airlines Flight 17 crash in eastern Ukraine, the pro-Russian rebels that control the territory say they're tiring of having any probe there, a spokesman for a monitoring group said Friday.

With the site still not secure eight days after the crash, and victims' remains still lying with debris, nations such as Netherlands are pressing to send their own police and investigators to the scene. Various negotiations are under way.

But rebels controlling the area -- the same rebels that Ukraine and the United States accuse of downing the plane and killing the 298 people aboard -- hinted to an international monitoring group that they've nearly had enough, even with the small amount of investigators they've already let in.

"We were given the indication ... that their patience is almost wearing out," said Michael Bociurkiw, a spokesman for the Organization for Security and Co-operation in Europe, which has had a small team touring the site for days. "They're saying maybe another week and then they don't know what would happen."

That's not likely to please a number of nations that say a proper investigation still hasn't begun, including Netherlands, whose officials say they're negotiating with the Ukrainian government to send 40 Dutch military police to search for more bodies....

On Friday, the OSCE team again toured the crash site, returning to a recently discovered section of fuselage from the plane. This time -- unlike Thursday -- victims' passports and other documentation were there, Bociurkiw said.

"We can't draw any conclusions. But for sure, those were not there the last time we were there," he said. "Perhaps someone placed it there. We don't know" ...

(Excerpt) Read more at edition.cnn.com ...


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To: Uncle Chip

At the level this atrocity occurred, we are irresponsible if we don’t assume the lead with our allies. We are the only free nation with the combat power and the expeditionary capability of doing it.

You either forget our role in the world and our alliances or you agree with Obama that we should become a fifteenth rate power like Brazil or something.


21 posted on 07/26/2014 9:43:16 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

Who would you rather take the lead here???

Barack Obama or the Prime Ministers of the Netherlands and Australia???


22 posted on 07/26/2014 9:49:57 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Uncle Chip

Us. The Marine Corps was designed for this mission.. Putin might play games with the little guys but even he isn’t stupid enough to screw with the Corps.

Obama wouldn’t do it but a real President would. He wants this nation to take the back seat in the world. He has degraded and reduced our armed forces, he has trashed our standing and he has encouraged thugs all over the world.

It needs to stop.


23 posted on 07/26/2014 11:42:28 AM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Uncle Chip
Upcoming "Separatist" announcement -

Unfortunately, blast from Kiev-Nazi explosion so strong, all gold fillings fly out of victims teeth.

24 posted on 07/26/2014 11:51:00 AM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: Dagnabitt
Unfortunately, blast from Kiev-Nazi explosion so strong, all gold fillings fly out of victims teeth.

Strelkov's Defence of Donetsk fundraising goal is met --

25 posted on 07/26/2014 11:59:32 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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The Dutch aren’t sure how many bodies are now in the Netherlands, but in total 227 coffins carrying remains have arrived since the shuttle flights began on Wednesday.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/aap/article-2706718/MH17-coffins-met-grieving-relatives.html#ixzz38bYd7vTX

So 71 still missing and unaccounted for —


26 posted on 07/26/2014 12:34:38 PM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: Drew68

Wouldn’t be going to war against Russia. They claim there are no Russian troops in eastern Ukraine. Putin can’t have it both ways.


27 posted on 07/26/2014 2:25:07 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Uncle Chip

Army will be accompanying the investigators from a couple of countries that aren’t paralyzed with fear of Putin.


28 posted on 07/26/2014 2:35:53 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: Chainmail

Actually the Marines were designed for the Navy, the Army was designed for and carries out these types of missions.


29 posted on 07/26/2014 2:37:20 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

Aw Ansel! You have to stop being so funny! Coffee almost ran out of my nose withe your last comment...


30 posted on 07/26/2014 3:52:04 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

There isn’t anything funny about it, it is simply fact.


31 posted on 07/26/2014 4:12:28 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12
If you had spent more than a few minutes thinking about it, Ansel 'ol Buddy, you'd remember that the Marine Corps is the only service that can be directly deployed by the President for limited expeditionary missions for short periods of time. Beirut, Santo Domingo, the landings at Mogadishu (or Peking or Nicaragua or Port-au-Prince, if you're into history) are just some examples. The Marine Corps is configured specifically to be a pre-packaged, self-sustaining force in increments from a MEU (battalion-sized with air support and combat service support) up to MEF (Division plus air wing plus Service Support Group) with sufficient supplies for 60 days of operations.

Army doesn't do that and doesn't have that charter. They'd like to, but they don't.

Need to read more than comic books Ansel if you want to increase your knowledge of real-world capabilities.

32 posted on 07/26/2014 5:11:56 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

For FAA investigations?


33 posted on 07/26/2014 5:37:24 PM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: ansel12

In a foreign country, in a combat zone, sure.


34 posted on 07/26/2014 7:16:02 PM PDT by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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