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Fighting Halts Police Visit To MH17 Site
Sky News ^ | 7-27-2014 | Sky

Posted on 07/27/2014 7:15:55 AM PDT by tcrlaf

Plans for a team of unarmed Dutch and Australian police officers to visit the site of the Malaysia Airlines plane disaster have been cancelled.

Fighting around the site of the airliner downed in eastern Ukraine prevented the visit.

The vast crash scene, which covers 20 square miles, mostly fields, is currently controlled by pro-Russian separatists who are battling Ukrainian government forces in a months-long conflict.

A Ukrainian defence official said his troops were trying to clear the areas around the site near the village of Grabovo from rebels.

There was reportedly fighting at several locations, including near the town of Debaltseve, 15 miles north-west of the crash scene.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.sky.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: civilwar; mh17; newsfromthekremlin; russianukrainianwar; ukraine
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To: tcrlaf

you are simply a liar..


21 posted on 07/27/2014 8:47:34 AM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: tcrlaf

Putin/thug sympathizer...wow.


22 posted on 07/27/2014 8:47:34 AM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: tcrlaf
FTA:

But the separatists deny any involvement in the downed jet.

So are the separatists lying here or not???

Are these the same lying separatists who said that the would keep the ceasefire and allow international officials access to the shootdown site???

It appears that the only way that they will get unimpeded access to the shootdown site is when the separatists are finally driven out of Donetsk and Kiev takes control of that site.

But you know that, right???

23 posted on 07/27/2014 8:56:54 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: felixandbowinkle

Lol...Felix and Bowinkle?

Are you getting paid in hryvnia or zloty?


24 posted on 07/27/2014 9:09:11 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: felixandbowinkle

Born on July 17th, 2014..

Hello newbie.


25 posted on 07/27/2014 9:30:34 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
The reports are the rebels never even stopped during cease fire.

Again, I get proven correct by events.

That is what FSB code for, "more propaganda at 11"? Again you side with Russia and against America.

26 posted on 07/27/2014 11:02:04 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: tcrlaf

And yet at such a young age he already has you pegged as a liar!


27 posted on 07/27/2014 11:04:25 AM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: mac_truck

I don’t know..which ever pays more...


28 posted on 07/28/2014 4:50:42 AM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: felixandbowinkle

Welcome to this discussion. If your going to participate you better have your facts straight because some of us aren’t going to put up with White House basement spin.

The ones who are fighting for their freedom and the separatist. The current Ukrainian regime is doing everything they can to stop them and have no problems killing civilians to put down this revolt.


29 posted on 07/28/2014 4:58:37 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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#MH17 crash investigators turn back amid ‘explosions’ - Dutch govt

Why can’t they have a cease fire until this site is investigated. What’s the rush?


30 posted on 07/28/2014 5:12:20 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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#Ukraine clashes intensify as police team abandons second attempt to inspect #MH17 crash site: http://fxn.ws/1oAavqS


31 posted on 07/28/2014 5:13:26 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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To: McGruff

oh please..you are so full of it. The “separatists” are Putins thugs. period. Ukrainians were tired of the corruption so they peacefully revolted, because murdered in the streets by Putin’s snipers. Great honest. And don’t use Whitehouse and me in the same sentence. THank you.


32 posted on 07/28/2014 9:05:22 AM PDT by felixandbowinkle (let irritations pass and become truly happy and strong..fhu.com!)
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To: felixandbowinkle

How much did they pay you to sign up here?


33 posted on 07/28/2014 9:44:26 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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To: caww
Is nothing sacred?


34 posted on 07/28/2014 9:51:52 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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To: felixandbowinkle

Oh good grief!....Anti-Kiev fighters are simply protecting their communities from the onslaught of Kiev’s relentless ‘air’ bombings.....of course they’ll shoot Kiev’s aircraft down. What would you expect in a civil war that has assistance from outside and inside sources on both sides?

Simply put... It’s a war!...war zone = a ‘combat’ zone where military operations are coordinated.


35 posted on 07/28/2014 10:09:29 AM PDT by caww
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To: tcrlaf
....”Kiev isn't honoring their own self-declared MH17 “Safe-Zone”. Knew that was coming....”

Oh yea, ...and isn't the first time. Rather like Israel telling Hamas all bets are off when they break a cease fire. The Separatists know Kiev's history of doing so. Also, because this crash did occur in that stronghold so close to Russia's border, and Kiev was loosing... there's more than one way to open an area....and I put nothing past Kiev or the Oligarchs with their army's in this layered conflict...they are of the same cloth ,brutal relentless fighters....it is in their nature.

36 posted on 07/28/2014 10:20:36 AM PDT by caww
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To: McGruff

Oh that’s too funny!


37 posted on 07/28/2014 10:21:41 AM PDT by caww
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To: McGruff; tcrlaf

Ukraines Security officials (US) jumping the gun of the MH17 Investigators....saying ‘only shrapnel’ from a missle hit the plane causing decompression...yada yada...

It’s from the BBC so I put almost zero confidence...plus it’s Ukraines officials...but they aren’t saying who they are. No doubt investigators are pee-od’......but then Ukraine is alway’s trying to move the ball anywhere but on them.

“Security officials... in Ukraine .....say the downed Malaysia Airlines jet in eastern Ukraine suffered an explosive loss of pressure after it was punctured by shrapnel from a missile.

They say the information came from the plane’s flight data recorders, which are being analysed ‘by British experts’.

However, it remains unclear who fired a missile, with pro-Russia rebels and Ukraine blaming each other.

Dutch investigators leading the inquiry into the crash have ‘refused to comment’ on the Ukrainian claims. (Obviously)

The Dutch team leading the investigation into flight MH17 won’t be happy that a Ukrainian security official has ‘apparently’ jumped the gun on the black box data results. I’m told there were Ukrainian investigators in the room at the UK’s Air Accidents Investigation Branch in Farnborough last week when they checked that data, so it seems reasonable to assume this official knows something.

But still, the Dutch are hoping to publish their own more detailed and more rounded report later this week, pooling together everything they’ve learned so far.

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-28532525#?utm_source=twitterfeed&utm_medium=twitter


38 posted on 07/28/2014 11:34:57 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww

Only a REUTERS Top News Tweet for now:

White House adviser Blinken says still unclear “exactly who pulled the trigger” to down #MH17 but Russia is culpable


39 posted on 07/28/2014 11:48:05 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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