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US says photos show Russian artillery fired on Ukraine
Yahoo News ^ | July 27, 2014 | AFP

Posted on 07/27/2014 1:28:39 PM PDT by Uncle Chip

The United States on Sunday released satellite images to bolster its claim that Russian artillery has fired across the border into Ukraine, targeting government forces in support of separatist rebels.

The four images, prepared by the office of the Director of National Intelligence and forwarded to reporters by the State Department, show sections of the Russia-Ukraine frontier.

Two show what the US government alleges are Russian batteries on its own territory -- one group of multiple rocket launchers and another of self-propelled howitzers.

Pictures also show impact craters near military positions on the Ukrainian side of the frontier.

A third picture shows what Washington alleges is Russian-supplied heavy weaponry being fired by separatists from within Ukraine.

"The wide area of impacts near the Ukrainian military units indicates fire from multiple rocket launchers. The bottom impact crater inset shows impacts within a local village," the caption said.

Moscow denies directly intervening in the Ukraine conflict and has accused Washington of mounting a smear campaign against it.

Washington turned up the pressure Thursday, alleging Russia had fired across the border and planned to deliver "heavier and more powerful multiple rocket launchers" to its rebel allies.

Then, the State Department cited only "intelligence information" to back up its claim before releasing the photographs on Sunday to strengthen its case.

Ukraine also claims two of its fighter jets were downed by missiles fired from Russian territory, but its US ally has yet to confirm this.

Fears of the damage that Russian arms could do in the hands of Ukraine's separatists increased sharply after a civilian Malaysian airliner was shot down over rebel territory with the loss of 298 lives.

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
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To: tcrlaf
....”the Civil War in Ukraine is just part of a MUCH larger geo-political game that goes all the way back to at least Libya.....And there is absolutely no doubt that Obama and his minions are on the side that harms America the most, as witnessed all the way from Tunisia to Ukraine and Gaza”.....

You know that every nation leader who has not towed the Globalist/NWO agenda was brought down. (Regime change) I'll not forget reading even ol’ Qaddafi dug in his heels and told them he wouldn't “be part of their New Roman Empire”....and Egypt's Mubarack said much the same.....but he didn't see it coming when they moved the people to force him out.

When they put the Muslim Brotherhood Bozo in to replace Mubarack they greatly underestimated the Egyptian 'people' and their Military leadership. Just as they've underestimated the 'people' of E.Ukraine......and in both cases believe they can control it....but it always ends up with bombs and death to achieve what they want.

Look, even Madeline Albright stated it would have been worth it if 'a million kids would have died' to achieve their agendas. They have zero concerns for the life of any nations peoples....including our own!

Now they're gone after Putin slowly and meticulously as one by one they took over the surrounding Baltic nations.....knowing well when it came to Ukraine the buck would stop there. Unfortunately while they have Ukraine going on they're now fast tracking Moldova, Georgia, Odessa and the others..and people groan and belly ache because Putin snatched Crimea and his ports!

121 posted on 07/27/2014 9:39:10 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tailgunner Joe

What are you talking about?...spit it out please... or did you just want to put your 2 cents in...if so it’s there for all to see.


122 posted on 07/27/2014 9:43:01 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
Sounds to me like you are of those tinfoil hat-wearing nutcases who thinks “the Joooos” are behind some kind of conspiracy to rule the world.

I think Project for a New American Century is a great pro-American organization. I want the 21st century to be an American century. I can see how supporters of America's enemy KGB Putin would have a problem with it.

123 posted on 07/27/2014 9:48:36 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

....”I think Project for a New American Century is a great pro-American organization”.......

Joe....it’s no longer....it was done in 2006 or thereabouts I think. Closed ..caput....I mentioned it because Nulands husband was involved, and at that time our leaders were certainly not what they are now.

It had it’s day...it’s Not now.


124 posted on 07/27/2014 10:02:55 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww

So then why did you call it an Obama think tank?


125 posted on 07/27/2014 10:12:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: caww; All
By Kiev's pocket you mean Ukrainians, opposed to the Russian mercenary/terrorists who have are being split and cut-off from Putin's warmongering supplies from Russia (thus your nervous tic and double post - get some help for that).
126 posted on 07/27/2014 11:21:45 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

The double posts have been an issue ONLY on FR....and I have brought it to monitors attention several times....other than responding to that the rest is fruitless as there’s nothing there to respond to.... I said what I meant... you trying to re-frame and get your digs in, so you can give away your 2 cents, makes no difference....it is what it is.


127 posted on 07/27/2014 11:34:00 PM PDT by caww
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To: Tailgunner Joe
It's simply changed hands/name.....under another name and with his agenda which is even more aligned with the NWO....which IMO sees the US (our military men) as those who pay the costs to fight for ‘other nations’ wars....(IE: Obama sending “Pentagon Officials” (boots on the ground) to Ukraine....Polands new US military base)...Which is exactly why the USA will never go completely down...they need our military until they have a good portion of it over there at their disposal.

Remember even Rummsy said new wars would be fought with quick action military groups....and they will be based throughout Europe and anywhere where we set bases for that....but they will be at the call of NATO for now..and later the NWO Governance....NATO IS the United States. Why do you think we're training so many other nations military?...It's not just so they can defend their own borders, but they will join ours, (if they will cause in the past Nato country's often boogied when they were asked to fight)....and those nations did not "pay" their dues to Nato in funds, nor had they lived up to their agreements for military in their gov. spending..... now they're all crying for our help because they don't have it!

128 posted on 07/27/2014 11:49:59 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww; All

Your nervous tic problem, most likely is from a guilty conscience, developed from supporting mad-dog killers who murdered 298 innocent civilians by blasting them out of God’s beautiful big blue sky.

While your support for Putin’s terrorist’s might only be limited to posting on FR, the monitors here can’t help you with that...


129 posted on 07/27/2014 11:53:01 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Try again....if you beat your head against the wall enough times it might knock some common sense into you and you’ll be back to your good ol’ self once again.

You know well I take no sides in this Ukraine war but the side of truth and the people in the East who have a right for self determination.... ..so quite trying to make those who are seeking the truth something your own mind has manufactured... (and we know why that is without repeating it yet again)


130 posted on 07/27/2014 11:59:37 PM PDT by caww
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To: caww
You know well I take no sides in this Ukraine war but the side of truth
LoL!

I gave you gold, you gave me crap.

Sorry, I have a lot of work to do today... convincing you to be a decent human being to rid your nervous tic problem is not part of it.

131 posted on 07/28/2014 12:07:11 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper
...."You handed me something but it sure wasn't gold"....

But I'll play you this while you rant on...


132 posted on 07/28/2014 12:21:38 AM PDT by caww
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To: caww; tcrlaf
Project for a New American Century has been reformulated under a new brand labelled the Foreign Policy Initiative a supposed DC based 'think-tank' which has retained some of the usual neocon players (Bill Kristol, Robert Kagen, etc.) as board members.

Their mission is an attempt to generate favorable media coverage for neoconservative foreign policy ideas and issues...a pretty tough job these days given the number of foreign policy SNAFUs the neocons have created over the past decade. They have connections to liberal media outlets like Huffington Post, Daily Beast, etc.

One of their more interesting members is a fellow named James Kirchick who has a stridently pro-homosexual agenda. Here he is behaving like an obnoxious queer on RT earlier this year.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEV9O_O7EB8

Hard to believe any conservative would want to be associated with this type of nonsense, but there you have it.

133 posted on 07/28/2014 4:16:40 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck; All

Well I was watching CNN Morning News at 6 AM EST and they are running with this story and pictures as being from our State Department. I guess people will believe what they want to believe.


134 posted on 07/28/2014 4:33:43 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times the weak minded will accept it as the truth.)
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Now for the other side of the story.

A Tweet from Russia Today

‘Fake’: Russian Defence Min rebuffs US sat image claims

Russia’s Defense Ministry has stated that “fake” satellite images of alleged shelling of Ukraine from Russian territory were created by US counselors “with close links to Ukraine’s Security Council.”

135 posted on 07/28/2014 4:37:41 AM PDT by McGruff (If you repeat a lie enough times theuniformed will accept it as the truth.)
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To: McGruff
That is how information is fabricated my friend.

Someone plants "evidence" on social media which gets picked up by some staffer and forwarded on to the ambassador who decides to send it out via twitter, which gets picked up by another staffer and passed along to the Dept spokesman who comments about it in the daily briefing using the usual vague disclaimers. That starts a new round of social media commentary which gets picked up my tabloids and eventually the main stream media.

Hell, I read an account of a briefing given by NATO General Breedlove in which he cited a you-tube video as evidence of Russia shelling Ukraine. We spend $400 million dollars a year on NATO and the top guy is getting his information from you-tube. Unbelievable.

136 posted on 07/28/2014 4:54:31 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Uncle Chip

Again Chip again... You failed to answer the questions.

You have personally attacked me twice. Which leads me to two consultations.

1) You are parroting media talking points, you are extremely gullible and highly ignorant.

2) You are a Globalist Troll pushing Globalist propaganda.


137 posted on 07/28/2014 6:57:51 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Who shot down MH17????

How’s the weather over there in the Kremlin today????


138 posted on 07/28/2014 6:59:52 AM PDT by Uncle Chip
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To: mac_truck

Bingo!

This is coming from the same group that said the Syria launched a chemical attack on it’s people.

Sure enough over time it turns that was not the case, but Chicken Hawks like Chip were wanting to start World War III over this false propaganda. Just like now they believed all the initial propaganda of the State Run media.


139 posted on 07/28/2014 7:01:33 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Uncle Chip

Chip you have failed three times to answer any of my questions. Moreover, you have zero evidence to prove that Russia did this.

All you have is 1 unrelated photo that has nothing to do with the incident. LOL! Who are you kidding? How old are you? LOL! Really???

You would be laughed out of court of if this was all your evidence.

You need to ask yourself if Ukraine is innocent, then why did they seize and refuse to show the radar data?

After all you say it would clear the? What are they hiding Chip???

The good news is that you are in a very small group of people (10% at best) that lack discernment, and are looking for any excuse to start World War III.


140 posted on 07/28/2014 7:14:36 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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