Posted on 07/29/2014 8:14:09 AM PDT by xzins
I agree. Those and freedom of religion are the real gross violations here.
I’m trying to imagine one of the founding fathers walking into a bakery and demanding they bake a gay wedding cake and arguing that it’s all about equality.
(Walking into a pacifist Quaker blacksmith shop and demanding they make a sword)
Never would have happened
Thank you...it would be my pleasure..if anyone is interested in donating him, please visit his website, there is a donation link. masterpiececakes.com
Why would you think it would be anything other than Christian with the Gov. we have?.... the overall thuggery happening is not just with Christians.....IRS comes to mind.....land grabs and environmentalist attacks on industry...the list is endless.
“While I don’t agree with the decision, I don’t understand why the shop owners don’t make a hidious cake for these customers. “
Ditto. More subtle ways to handle these situations:
1. “When do you need that cake? Let me check my book. Uh oh, I’m booked up and won’t be able to get that cake out for a couple of weeks after your wedding. Could I suggest a less busy bakery down the street?”
2. Bake the damn cake, but out of expired cake mixes from Dollar General and expired canned icing from same. Do a less than stellar job on the decorations. Cheerfully offer a full refund and profuse apologies regarding any complaints.
But upfront tells the couple that all profits will be donated to a Christian organization that provides Gay Conversion Therapy
...if you think he’s in trouble now, wait till he does something like that...
surely the queer turd bandits in the commisioners office cant force him to set prices too...
Would the Colorado Commission take Mr. Phillips to task if he refused to make a cake that had white hooded Klansmen (modeled after Grand Keagle Robert Byrd) lynching a black man? He’d be infringing on the Klan’s right to free speech
...the issue deals with so called sexual discrimination, not free speech...a better analogy would be if he would refuse to bake a cake for a guy and a girl who were publicly announcing their intention to swap spouses with six other couples after their wedding night-also a non Biblical approach to marriage...
Once homosexual behavior became enshrined as a civil right, it was all over.
You can no more refuse to take business from homosexuals than you can from Black people or Jews or Moslems.
The problem is that sexual behavior is NOT protected by the Constitution.
Only Speeech, Ancestry, and Religious Expression are protected thereby.
The fight was lost when homosexual acts were decriminalized.
Find a gay owned flower shop, for instance and order Nazi and KKK themed floral displays. Let’s see whether or not they enforce the law in this case.
...if the request could be traced back to you, you would then be arrested for inciting domestic terrorism...
Actually that’s completely legal.
Some of the other suggestions out there will open him to civil (make an ugly cake) or even criminal (bake Ex-Lax into the cake) suits.
But just saying that he’ll donate the profits to a charity that provides a service thats legal in all states but New Jersey? The only recourse to that is sputtering outrage. Which he’s already getting anyways.
***They must also include why it was declined “so to ensure he has fully eliminated his religious beliefs from his business.”***
As I’ve pointed out to atheists/homosexuals who go nuts about this, this is about religious freedom, not discrimination. (As demonstrated by your quote.)
I always ask them, “so you are in favor of forcing a Jewish kosher deli to make ham sandwiches if a customer demands it?”
They go, no that’s completely different, to which I reply, no, it’s exactly the same.
Not likely.
my tagline!
CWII Spark — You are not allowed to dissent unless that dissent is approved dissent.
“You take it up with the people who wrote the statutes by pressing the test.
Do it, make a stink about it, bring it to court if nothing else for unequal protection under the law. Make them work to justify it.”
Yeah, good luck with that. Not wasting my money pursuing a court case that every judge will toss out.
But just saying that he’ll donate the profits to a charity that provides a service thats legal in all states but New Jersey?
...certain lawyers and judges could see extortion in that premise-the vendor has no standing to force customers what organizations to support with the money he expects to collect from them...
I was born in Cook County. If David and Charlie had pull this stunt then Vinnie and Guido would have to pay them a light night visit. After the vist there would be no more issues. Sadly Christians do not handle their problems in such efficient ways.
Nice attitude. Brings Paine’s “sunshine soldier, summer patriot” to mind.
Hang on to your money and life as you know it for as long as they let you.
RIP America...
Not likely.
...your scenario would be exactly the same as burning a cross in someone’s yard...you might be prosecuted, maybe not...but remember, should one do what you suggest it is easy (given an aggressive attorney) to expose as a specific and retaliatory targeting of a particular group, for purposes of threat and intimidation, whereas the tactics of Charlie and David, underhanded and spurious as they may be, do not...
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