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State of emergency declared for NW Ohio counties over water contamination
Fox8News ^ | 8/2/2014 | Shannon Carney

Posted on 08/02/2014 2:13:59 PM PDT by EBH

Edited on 08/02/2014 2:33:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

Gov. John Kasich says water will be flowing into the Toledo area from all corners of Ohio to help the 400,000 people who are being warned not to drink the city

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TOPICS: Front Page News; Government
KEYWORDS: contamination; emergency; ohio; seebreakingnews; toledo; toxin; water
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To: EBH

I make Lactic Acid Bacteria and it will terminate the toxins in about a day! Or just was your fruit in it.
Naturally
Any questions? Oh by the way I use lab for a pro-biotic and a lot other things.
LAB Eats up the ammonia nitrate causing the algae blooms.
FAST


61 posted on 08/02/2014 4:05:46 PM PDT by Tigen (I shall raise you one .)
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To: cripplecreek

homophones


62 posted on 08/02/2014 4:26:00 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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To: Tigen

How much LAB is required to treat 10,000 gallons of infected water? The cost is how much?


63 posted on 08/02/2014 4:35:03 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: PA Engineer

Couldn’t quite figure out a DIY method. UV light then ceramic charcoal filter?


64 posted on 08/02/2014 4:40:55 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: EBH

Delaying the water test results. Hmmmm


65 posted on 08/02/2014 4:51:58 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Tigen

Save


66 posted on 08/02/2014 4:53:26 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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Just a question. None of this would have anything to do with the deep salt mines under Detroit/Lake Erie? Releasing any weird gases or radiation?

Just asking


67 posted on 08/02/2014 4:57:03 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: EBH; machogirl; Kartographer

I sent a link to this to my younger cousin in Toledo and asked for her comments. Her response:

S*** be crazy! I’m well. This winter woke me up. I have a week worth of water / food in basement at all times. :)

I’m proud of her prepping!

I really need to buy that Big Berkey I keep threatening to get.


68 posted on 08/02/2014 5:07:59 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: EBH

I just don’t believe this story. Algae bloom?
Has this never happened before? I’m sure the lake has had some sort of algae on it at least once in the last 150 years it’s been used as a drinking source. Something evil going on here but I can’t put my finger on it.


69 posted on 08/02/2014 5:11:34 PM PDT by lucky american (Progressives are attacking our rights and y'all will sit there and take it.)
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To: EBH

Wash Tony Packo’s sausage down with some beer and forget about it.


70 posted on 08/02/2014 5:18:49 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Liberals were raised by women or wimps. And they're all stupid.)
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To: Eagles6
Couldn’t quite figure out a DIY method. UV light then ceramic charcoal filter?

This is from the EPA, however it is missing the PPM chlorine required for effective treatment.

Oxidants like chlorine, ozone and KMnO4 are effective mechanisms for inactivation of microcystin but chlorine effectiveness is pH-dependent. Different cyanotoxins react differently to chlorine, for example, it has proved to be ineffective for the inactivation of anatoxin-a. However, when pH is below 8, chlorine is effective for inactivation of microcystin and cylindrospermopsin. Ozone is a good oxidant of microcystins, anatoxin-a and cylindrospermopsin, but its efficacy is also ph-dependent and may be affected by the presence of organic matter. Although ozone is ph-independent for the oxidation of microcystin, is pH- dependent for the oxidation of anatoxin-a (pH 7 to 10) and for cylindrospermopsin (4 and 10). KMnO4 is effective in oxidizing microcystin and anatoxin-a (from pH 6 to 8), but is not very reactive with cylindrospermopsin. Chloramines and chlorine dioxide are not effective treatments for microcystin, anatoxin-a and cylindrospermopsin.

Normal Blue Label Bleach and a cheap pool test kit can be used, but again they do not mention the level of chlorination required.

Also they say the following about UV and Activated Charcoal:

UV
Effective of degrading microcystin and cylindrospermopsin but at impractically high doses.
Activated Carbon
PAC: Most types are generally effective for removal of microcystin, anatoxin-a and cylindrospermopsin, especially wood-based activated carbon.


They don't explain what they consider impractical high dose.

I have looked at whole house ozone units to replace our chlorine injector and holding tank (at least bypass). We have a pretty bad sulfur issues with the well and (season dependent) treat our water from 1 to 3 PPM.

I suppose you could also rig up a cheap pool ozone unit to a 5 gallon water jug, but it would be simple to treat the water if there was some guidance on how much was required.

I'm back at the computer and will keep looking. I didn't know about this issue with Lake Erie until today, however as a Prepper I wanted to study up on it. This apparently is not the first time this has happened. Here is one company that does ozone treatment (I use ozone to treat my swim spa) Ozotech for your reference.
71 posted on 08/02/2014 5:41:53 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: cripplecreek
Thinking I should run the hose out to the gate and put up a sign to sell some well water.

Reminds me of a flood we had here several years a go. My end of town was under water, with people canoeing in the streets, and all the farm fields near town were flooded.

One farmer put a sign in his field that read: "Free water. You haul."

72 posted on 08/02/2014 6:13:03 PM PDT by JoeFromSidney (Book: Resistance to Tyranny. Buy from Amazon.)
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To: Eagles6
I found another article on it.

"However, chlorination was very effective at destroying microcystin-LR and nodularin with free chlorine residual of 0.5mg/L after 30 minutes contact time with pH<8 (Nicholsonetal.,1994)."

That comes out to about .51PPM. I will be looking for other sources. I would probably stick with 3PPM and use a test kit to make sure the pH is less than 8.
73 posted on 08/02/2014 6:25:48 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: PA Engineer
Thanks a lot. I'd appreciate if you would let me know what you come up with.

On another thread I mentioned that I would be diverting my downspouts to the rain barrels by now.

Sawyer mini should be sufficient for rain water but I also have AquaCera CeraCarbs in the bucket set up.

I do wonder how much of their rain contains evaporation from Lake Erie and if so would it contain the toxin?

74 posted on 08/02/2014 6:28:45 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: PA Engineer

Definitely worth getting the ph test kit. Also have a few pounds of calcium hypochlorite.


75 posted on 08/02/2014 6:32:11 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where? If not us then who?)
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To: machogirl

NO I do not believe so...

During the 2000s blooms of toxic Microcystis were reported as common in the western basin. In August 2003, a massive bloom of the cyanobacteria Microsystis aetuginosa formed in western Lake Erie and persisted for nearly a month. Surface scums of Microcystis containing high concentrations of the toxin microcystin washed ashore in Michigan and Ohio, resulting in foul-smelling, rotting, algal mats. Beaches and recreational boating areas were rendered unusable and sport fishing was adversely affected. The Microcystis bloom of 2003, perhaps the most severe in Lake Erie’s recent history, was only the latest in a trend towards increasing frequency of Microcystis blooms in the last decade. The 2003 bloom was followed by smaller blooms in 2004 and 2005. Microcystis reappeared in 2006, but the extent of the bloom remains to be determined.

http://www.epa.gov/med/grosseile_site/indicators/algae-blooms.html


76 posted on 08/02/2014 6:32:32 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: lucky american

Ping to #76

This happens annually, just never has it been to this extent.


77 posted on 08/02/2014 6:34:17 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: Eagles6

If the same holds true for winter and summer precipitation, then the rainfall toxic issue would be for what we commonly refer to as the snowbelt.

Lake Effect Snow showers, although I have heard several references this summer to ‘lake effect rain showers.’


78 posted on 08/02/2014 6:36:38 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: machogirl

Dundee Police Department has posted this notice on Facebook:

#The Dundee Police Department has been activated by Monroe County EOC. We are using our trucks we obtained from the military which were for emergency situations such as the one being experienced in Toledo and South Monroe County (Bedford, Luna Pier, Lasalle, Erie which access Toledo water). Our trucks will haul over 3000 gallons of water. With assistance from Clean Tech here in Dundee, over 1524 cases of single serve water bottles are coming from Absopure in Plymouth. Which will then be loaded on our trucks and shipped to Bedford to assist with the water concern.


79 posted on 08/02/2014 6:44:31 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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To: EBH

Also from City of Toledo Facebook page:

#Any method that the water can be ingested is not advised. This includes washing dishes, vegetables, etc. Filtration systems, such as carbon filters, will not remove the toxins.

#Please stay tuned for further updates, which will be provided as soon as possible, as long as the information is deemed as factual.


80 posted on 08/02/2014 6:46:21 PM PDT by EBH (And the head wound was healed, and Gog became man.)
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