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Idea of an L.A. Voteria is gaining currency
Los Angeles Times ^ | 20 Aug 2014 | Steve Lopez

Posted on 08/20/2014 8:24:33 AM PDT by mandaladon

he proposal to enter L.A. voters into a cash prize lottery, for the sake of increasing turnout, is easy to attack on numerous fronts.

My first reaction to last week's recommendation by the L.A. City Ethics Commission?

Horror.

Or maybe it wasn't horror so much as anger that anyone would come up with such a sad little gimmick. Throughout history, people have sacrificed their lives for the right to vote, and now we have to offer jackpots to shake people out of their laziness and apathy?

"How DUMB!!!" one reader posted on the story by my colleague David Zahniser.

"Really???!!!" said another.

Aside from the problem of turning a civic duty into a commercial gambit, there's the obvious problem of attracting voters who don't know a councilman from a crossing guard. So I called Nathan Hochman, the ethics commission president, to hear his justification for a lottery.

"We are in a crisis," said Hochman, citing a steep decline in turnout for local elections between 2001 and 2013, when about 75% of the city's registered voters skipped the election won by Mayor Eric Garcetti.

"In a representative democracy, you want everybody to have a piece of ownership about their city government," Hochman said. And when too few people take part, "the system fails."

A commission formed by Garcetti and council President Herb Wesson had already looked at fixes, including the aligning of low-turnout local elections with higher-turnout state and national elections in even-numbered years. Another recommendation was for extended voting times, in which voters might have more places to cast ballots and several days to do so.

Those are fine ideas, Hochman said, but it'll take years to implement them. The commission wanted to try something in the interim, on a trial basis.

(Excerpt) Read more at latimes.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ca; elections
Nobody would be paid to vote. But by voting, regardless of how you vote, you might get lucky. Hochman said roughly $65 million was spent on L.A. city elections in 2013 when you count independent expenditures and $10 million in matching funds from the city. So if you took just 1% of the $10 million in matching funds, Hochman said, or $100,000, you could probably boost engagement and turnout by randomly awarding four $25,000 prizes, or 10 $10,000 prizes, or any such combination........................Another stupid liberal idea
1 posted on 08/20/2014 8:24:34 AM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

Constitutional????


2 posted on 08/20/2014 8:25:20 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party policy;Lie,deny,refuse to comply)
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To: mandaladon

This is something right out of the movie Network.


3 posted on 08/20/2014 8:28:00 AM PDT by DemforBush (A Repo Man is always intense.)
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To: mandaladon

Once these things get up an going they are very hard to stop

It’s just a scheme for rats as most government giveaways are


4 posted on 08/20/2014 8:30:05 AM PDT by reefdiver (The fool says there is no God. And the bigger fools sees direct evidence and rages against it.)
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To: mandaladon

Attracting voters who don’t know a councilman from a crossing guard.
Welcome to Los Angeles.


5 posted on 08/20/2014 8:39:33 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: mandaladon
A voting turnout of 5% would be ideal, because that is the percentage of the voting public who actually puts thought and research into their decisions.

Sometimes, I'm not even in the 5%. When it comes to school board elections, I simply vote for whomever is NOT endorsed by the local educrat union. If there are more non-endorsees than slots available, I simply vote for the non-endorsees who I think are most likely to win.

A cousin of mine is a well-respected M.D. He actually takes the time to research all the candidates before he votes. I respect that. If more people did the same, libtards would be relegated to the lunatic fringe where they belong.

6 posted on 08/20/2014 8:40:09 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: mandaladon

This is so nutty.

I have an idea to increase participation in L.A. municipal elections that won’t cost an extra penny:

Have municipal elections coincide with presidential election years.

There. Problem solved. The idea is so simple, it will never be embraced.


7 posted on 08/20/2014 8:44:32 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: DemforBush
This is something right out of the movie Network.

I was thinking "Idiocracy."

8 posted on 08/20/2014 8:45:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: mandaladon
A caller on the Michael Medved Show yesterday had a great idea to increase registration-

If you don't register to vote, your name goes in the jury pool. Currently it's the other way around.

9 posted on 08/20/2014 9:16:30 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

This may actually hurt conservative candidates in such a politically liberal municipality.


10 posted on 08/20/2014 9:17:46 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

“If you don’t register to vote, your name goes in the jury pool. Currently it’s the other way around. “

Yeah, that’s the ticket! Ruin both the vote and the jury pool. How’d you like to be tried by 12 illegal Mexicans?


11 posted on 08/20/2014 9:36:45 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387
The defense attorneys would love it- aimless, malleable, ambivalent jurors are easily led astray.
12 posted on 08/20/2014 10:01:25 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: mandaladon

More incentive to vote early and often.


13 posted on 08/20/2014 10:15:21 AM PDT by ctdonath2 ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun" - Obama, setting RoE with his opposition)
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To: mandaladon

So no fiscally responsible candidate could cancel this white elephant.

FREEE STUFFF FREE STUFF


14 posted on 08/20/2014 10:45:45 AM PDT by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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To: Rockitz

“The defense attorneys would love it- aimless, malleable, ambivalent jurors are easily led astray.”

I’ve been challenged off every jury for which I’ve ever been sent. Defense lawyers want people who are “good with awards for pain and suffering,” and they don’t look for anyone who has an opinion about anything. Result: old people and welfare mothers. Was on a criminal grand jury once for a week. Now that’s a whole different ballgame. You really get a clearer picture of the underbelly of our society there.


15 posted on 08/20/2014 11:36:42 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: Rockitz

I live in L.A.

When you go to vote a municipal election, it is absolutely dead at the polls. I can remember many times voting in a municipal election and I was the only one at the polls voting. I can see the frustration of city officials at the abysmal turnout. Now that certainly does give MY vote a lot more leverage. But it really doesn’t make much of a difference anyways. The LA Mayor and City Council are overwhelmingly liberal in any event so I don’t see how it could get much worse than it is already.

If they really wanted to maximize voter turnout, all they need to do is schedule municipal elections in presidential and midterm election years. Currently municipal elections are scheduled in the odd years thus guaranteeing an extremely low turnout.


16 posted on 08/20/2014 12:01:21 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
I see the same in my LA county city (not LA proper). I used to pride myself in never missing elections, but there are so many elections now that I have missed a few over the years.

I suspect the only reason they don't sync the elections is that there are probably special interests who believe or possibly have found that it's easier to get a bond measure through or a proposition passed if the elections occur in off-years or during primaries or special elections.

17 posted on 08/21/2014 10:06:23 AM PDT by Rockitz (This is NOT rocket science - Follow the money and you'll find the truth.)
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To: Rockitz

Yup. I really don’t care about the turnout in my Communist city. The lower the turnout the better. Gives my vote more weight with the lower turnout.

I’m just saying if the local yo-yos who run our city government want to see a higher turnout in municipal election they should have them in the even years to correspond with the presidential and midterm elections as opposed to all of these perfectly ridiculous ideas to bribe the voters to come to the polls.


18 posted on 08/21/2014 11:41:50 AM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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