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This Is How ISIS Is Building An Airforce
Zero Hedge ^ | 8-31-2014 | Tyler Durden

Posted on 08/30/2014 1:26:43 PM PDT by blam

Tyler Durden
08/30/2014

The Islamic State is nothing if not ambitious. Despite no record of current 'airplane' assets in their annual reports, ISIS has begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft. According to CNN Arabic, the pilots (and their planes and helicopters) were abducted when the terrorist group gained control of Tabqa military base. It appears that if beheadings, executions, and whippings are not enough to strike fear into the hearts of the locals, then (just as America is tryiung to do), an air assault will greatly demoralize. We can only imagine how this changes Obama's strategy (and just where are all the rest of Syria and Iraq's airplanes stored?)

Via Al Arabiya,

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria said in a recent tweet it is forcing detained Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft, CNN Arabic reported on Saturday.

In an account reportedly associated with the militant group, ISIS said in a tweet the pilots were abducted when the group gained control over the Tabqa military airbase in Raqqa Province.

ISIS seized the airbase earlier this month. The major airfield houses warplanes, helicopters, tanks and other artillery and ammunition, which were also confiscated by ISIS, according to several media reports.

ISIS did not provide any information about the nature of the training, according to CNN Arabic.

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TOPICS: Egypt; Israel; News/Current Events; Russia; Syria
KEYWORDS: egypt; iran; iraq; isis; isisairforce; islam; israel; kurdistan; lebanon; russia; syria; terror
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1 posted on 08/30/2014 1:26:44 PM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Well, if that’s typical military aircraft of ISIS pictured, I’m not worried. I suspect it’s not, though. However, how big is the Syrian air force, how well equipped and how much damage could they do in a relatively short period of time?


3 posted on 08/30/2014 1:29:44 PM PDT by john drake (Lucius Accius-Roman,170 BC - "oderint dum metuant" translated "Let them hate so long as they fear")
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To: blam

Where is the Malaysian 777??


4 posted on 08/30/2014 1:33:16 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi
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To: blam

The Covert Origins of ISIS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oMjXbuj7BPI


5 posted on 08/30/2014 1:34:13 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: john drake

they could have a 100 of them but you need 100 capable pilots thats the hard part


6 posted on 08/30/2014 1:35:19 PM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: blam

It takes time to train an effective combat pilot. I suspect these new ISIS pilots are going to be falling out of the sky on a regular basis. Syria has a fairly effective and competent IADS. These goat humpers aren’t going to be very good once their missile warning systems start blaring.
Get your popcorn ready, this should be entertaining.


7 posted on 08/30/2014 1:36:47 PM PDT by sean327 (God created all men equal, then some become Marines!)
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To: blam
See what happened to the rest of the Syrian soldiers that IAIS captured at the air base:

Marched to their deaths: Sickening ISIS slaughter continues as 250 soldiers captured at Syrian airbase are stripped then led to the desert for mass execution

Muslim VS Muslim, not all bad.

8 posted on 08/30/2014 1:37:42 PM PDT by blam (Jeff Sessions For President)
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To: Erik Latranyi
Where is the Malaysian 777??

Western Pakistan. Waiting...

9 posted on 08/30/2014 1:44:06 PM PDT by montag813
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To: blam
ISIS is building a Military because Obama is sitting around with his thumb up his A$$, hoping he wiil be out of office before the Cacka hits the fan.
And like pre WWII, the War weary World is allowing them to march across the globe until it will take a World War and Millions of lives to stop them!
10 posted on 08/30/2014 1:46:17 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: blam

Every last one of these aircraft should be bombed to obivion. Paging Obama on hole 9...


11 posted on 08/30/2014 1:46:30 PM PDT by Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

> ISIS has begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft.

Hey, training jihadists to fly stolen aircraft works, as we all learned on 9/11/2001. Well, not all of us — Paultards agree with Ron Paul that 9/11 wasn’t a jihadist act.


12 posted on 08/30/2014 1:48:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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To: montag813

Amazingly, the Indians never noticed a commercial jet going over their airspace for hours....


13 posted on 08/30/2014 1:48:54 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (FReerepublic: Bring a FRiend!)
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To: Falcon4.0
And by the way.
The World is War Weary, because the democRats and the media pounded the World into weariness.
14 posted on 08/30/2014 1:48:58 PM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: blam

Flying a jet or chopper is more complicated than driving a pickup truck or Humvee.

If I was one of those Syrian pilots, I’d get my trainee to eject himself and then fly home.


15 posted on 08/30/2014 1:50:22 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: SunkenCiv; blam; no-to-illegals; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ..

First, let’s hope the captured pilots are making mistakes in their training instructions.

Second, they may be able to fly them somewhere once or twice, but to have an Air Force, they will need to maintain. They probably excuted all the maintenance personnel.

My Special Forces son spent 4 months at helicopter maintenance school, so he could manage a fleet of 6 or 8 helicopters. My other son who worked for an avionics company said 4 months was not enough for him to repair them, but only to communicate with the workers and know what he was ordering for repairs. Fat chance that ISIS will be able to do that.


16 posted on 08/30/2014 1:56:08 PM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: rbg81

Why not eject yourself and let the ISIS guy die in the crash?


17 posted on 08/30/2014 1:57:47 PM PDT by LukeL
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To: blam

Can we get in-cockpit video feeds? I’d love to see this, it would be hilarious! The basic mechanics of flight are easy. Everything else...not so much.


18 posted on 08/30/2014 1:58:13 PM PDT by W. (Government: Moving at the speed of paper pushers pushing actual paper, until it benefits them)
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To: blam
Like this...
19 posted on 08/30/2014 2:04:31 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: gleeaikin

They have over $6 billion dollars and counting. You can hire mercenary maintenance personnel from the third world (MiGs are everywhere) for $20,000 a piece all day long.


20 posted on 08/30/2014 2:08:10 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: blam

Wake up, Bammy. Now be a good boy and put your toys away. It’s time to play Prez-e-dent.


21 posted on 08/30/2014 2:12:14 PM PDT by fivecatsandadog (IMPEACH THE TRAITOR --- IMPEACH THE TRAITOR --- IMPEACH THE TRAITOR)
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To: sean327

how hard was it to fly into the towers?


22 posted on 08/30/2014 2:12:37 PM PDT by huldah1776
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To: blam

23 posted on 08/30/2014 2:15:04 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: sean327
It takes time to train an effective combat pilot.

It might be cover, to allow Saudi and Pakistani pilots to fly for ISIS, while maintaining deniability.

24 posted on 08/30/2014 2:15:52 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: blam

That’s what I was thinking however there are Syrian Christians. That’s not so good.


25 posted on 08/30/2014 2:27:45 PM PDT by jmacusa (Liberalism defined: When mom and dad go away for the weekend and the kids are in charge.)
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To: blam

To maintain an Air Force is something only a country can do because of the cost alone.

Each one of these aircraft require hundreds of hours of maintenance for every hour in flight. Moreover, it requires a well trained, highly motivated, extremely disciplined group of people just to keep it in the air. Plus you have continue to buy parts, fuel, etc to keep the aircraft.

What I’m saying is that IS/ISIS/ISIL is being funded by a country. These savages could not do anything without the financial help, training and arms coming from another country. Now the average ISIS savage is too stupid to realize they are being used as a proxy for anther State.

Now do you find it odd how a radical Islamic group has the same interest as Saudi Arabia in Syria and Iraq?

Don’t you think it’s strange that ISIS would go all the way over an attack Europe, the U.S. first and bypass Israel??? After all they are a radical Islamic group.

Why would they do this? Perhaps to give their governments the excuse they desperately need to attack Syria. After all Saudi Arabia wants that gas pipeline to Europe that Syria declined to sell them.

Remember the Globalist have tried that twice now by saying the Syrian government was using chemical weapons. Well when everything was said and done it turns out it was the FSA/AL-Qaeda after all that did this in order to get us in the war. This is because Syria has the FSA stuck in a quagmire.

Oh and who said ISIS would do this today? Once again our “friends” the Saudi’s.... You remember the same country that were 15 of the 19 hijackers. Oh but don’t worry we attacked Iraq. Yeah that made a lot of sense.... (sarcasm off)

I know some will say, There is NO WAY the Saudi’s could be behind all the funding and arming of Al-Qaeda/ISIS/IS/ISIL even though they seem to have the same economic interest. Common folks.... put two and two together.


26 posted on 08/30/2014 2:51:10 PM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Obama_Is_Sabotaging_America
"Every last one of these aircraft should be bombed to obivion"

They must be hidden well, otherwise you'd think they'd be scrap by now.
27 posted on 08/30/2014 2:57:22 PM PDT by clearcarbon
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To: blam

ISIS: you are my prisoner and you and your plane must attack our enemies. Your mission is to fly your plane and shot down American warplanes.

Captured pilot : ok

ISIS airtraffic controller: You are off course, return to base now

Captured pilot: do the letters FO mean anything to you? Over and out!


28 posted on 08/30/2014 3:00:28 PM PDT by shotgun
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To: LukeL

I guess you could do that if you are over friendly territory. But those aircraft have considerable value.


29 posted on 08/30/2014 3:11:27 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: shotgun
ISIS airtraffic controller: You are off course, return to base now

Should I be worried about being kidnapped, to teach these scoundrels how to control airplanes?

:-)

30 posted on 08/30/2014 3:12:25 PM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero played a fiddle, while Obama plays a "flute")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
They have over $6 billion dollars and counting. You can hire mercenary maintenance personnel from the third world (MiGs are everywhere) for $20,000 a piece all day long.

Given their trigger-happy reputation vis-a-vis even non-observant Muslims, I suspect only the most dedicated Islamists will work for them.

31 posted on 08/30/2014 3:13:35 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Zhang Fei

Eastern Europeans and some Africans will work for anybody if the money is right.


32 posted on 08/30/2014 3:14:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (The most dangerous man to any government is the man who is able to think things out for himself.)
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To: blam

I see some great training opportunities for F35 and F22 pilots.


33 posted on 08/30/2014 3:16:53 PM PDT by Nachoman (libertyarmstx.com is now open!)
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To: blam
begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft.

And that will be the surest way to destroy their air force that I can think of.

34 posted on 08/30/2014 3:17:35 PM PDT by grobdriver (Where is Wilson Blair when you need him?)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Eastern Europeans and some Africans will work for anybody if the money is right.

You're thinking ethics. I'm thinking physical safety. Nobody will work for an employer known for killing people like him because it was divinely ordained.

35 posted on 08/30/2014 3:20:09 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: blam

easy meat , bring um on .....

deploy A-10’s to the AO


36 posted on 08/30/2014 3:29:41 PM PDT by LeoWindhorse
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To: al baby
they could have a 100 of them but you need 100 capable pilots thats the hard part

If they're not worried about landing again intact, the capable part changes a bit.

37 posted on 08/30/2014 3:31:06 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (You all can go to hell, I'm going to Texas.)
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To: blam

“ISIS did not provide any information about the nature of the training”

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38 posted on 08/30/2014 3:50:02 PM PDT by Selene
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To: blam

This is just unreal..


39 posted on 08/30/2014 3:57:55 PM PDT by JSDude1
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To: sean327

The Pilots may only need to fly a one way mission—on auto-pilot most of the way—How far can a Mig go on one tank of gas? Maybe to Babgdad? Mecca? Cairo? To US ships in Gulf? Isreal? Maybe shoot down a US Plane—maybe Air Force One? Maybe ship it to Mexico—fly it across the border—hit White House? Freedom Tower? Disneyland? las Vegas? New Orleans? Houston? Lots of creative ways to use warplanes.


40 posted on 08/30/2014 4:06:26 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll Onward! Ride to the sound of the guns!)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Third world hardware maintained by inbred muzzies.
If nothing else the MTBF will be extremely short.


41 posted on 08/30/2014 4:16:42 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: al baby

The pilots only need to learn how to take off and read a map.


42 posted on 08/30/2014 4:29:18 PM PDT by bgill
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To: montag813
Where is the Malaysian 777??

In your foil hat?

43 posted on 08/30/2014 4:45:58 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Amnesty is Treason. Its agents are Traitors.)
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To: grobdriver; 2ndDivisionVet
begun detaining and forcing Syrian pilots to train militant fighters to fly stolen aircraft.

And that will be the surest way to destroy their air force that I can think of.

When I got back from Vietnam, I went to a pilot training base. We had student pilots (Muzzies) from Iran, the best of the best Iran could offer. 99.9% of them could not fly airplanes to save their a$$es. The Iraqi Air Force was no match for American pilots. I doubt that ISIS pilots would fare any better.

44 posted on 08/30/2014 5:08:04 PM PDT by Mark17 (Obama & Nero? Both Emperors. The difference is Nero played a fiddle, while Obama plays a "flute")
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To: Falcon4.0

I love this “war-weary” crap. Unless you are currently in the military, and are not deployed, nobody has any business being “weary of war”. Lazy bastards they are, all libs. The weary can just keep putting their heads in the sand, so ISIS can chop them off more easily.


45 posted on 08/30/2014 5:13:27 PM PDT by Lockbar (What would Vlad The Impaler do?)
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To: blam

Just about a year ago Odumbo wanted to use America’s Air Force for the ISIS’s Air Force!


46 posted on 08/30/2014 6:42:30 PM PDT by jacob allen
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To: Uncle Miltie
Amazingly, the Indians never noticed a commercial jet going over their airspace for hours....
In your foil hat?

LOL. Don't tell me, tell Gen. McInerney. It's his theory, and an entertaining one at that.

47 posted on 08/30/2014 7:16:05 PM PDT by montag813
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To: F15Eagle

My first thought: OK, let’s say the engines and avionics work (a huge “if” on both), then they are FORCING people to train pilots, and those pilots need, say, 1000 hours on the stick to be a marginal threat.

Not worried about this in the least.

If they were really smart, they’d put a commercial drone GPS system in them, rig up someway to work the controls, and turn them into a drone with one pre-set target and a flight plan of about 3 meters off the ground just under Mach. That might work.


48 posted on 08/31/2014 7:58:33 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: Jewbacca

“If they were really smart, they’d put a commercial drone GPS system in them,”

Where do you get those? Ebay?


49 posted on 08/31/2014 8:00:42 AM PDT by TexasGator
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