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Confronting the 'football industrial complex'
BBC News ^ | 4th September 2014 | Anthony Zurcher

Posted on 09/04/2014 10:08:28 AM PDT by the scotsman

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To: logician2u

I agree. So much for the free market.


61 posted on 09/04/2014 11:33:41 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: the scotsman

I am still hanging on (barely- because of the Eagles), but I am really sick of how much of a religion it has become and ESPN and the disgusting politics....and the pink crap. I am also sick of the recruitment/scouting system/process from high school on up. There are so many talented and athletic kids who are overlooked and never drafted because they aren’t tan enough. They aren’t allowed to play certain positions. Then there are guys who barely make it are often cut for no apparent reason even after having terrific preseason games.


62 posted on 09/04/2014 11:37:42 AM PDT by Phillyred
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To: KoRn; All
They’ve totally screwed up kickoff returns - one of the more exciting parts of a game.

Your list is pretty comprehensive, and the most important one, above, is the kick off, which, it seems 9 times out of 10 results in a touchback. The kickers have gotten so good that the ball is rarely kicked off into the field of play, but routinely lands either deep in, or out of the end zone. This is the most BORING part of the game and really ruins the continuity of a team that is hot on offense. My solution? Make it legal to kick a FIELD GOAL on the kickoff! This would really help a team that is down by a small margin to tighten up the game and, since the kickers would be trying for accuracy rather than just distance, make for more returns when the field goals were missed. Hell they monkey around with the rules all the time, why not add a little excitement to what is being to be a dull spectacle? C'mon Freepers let me hear what you think!
63 posted on 09/04/2014 11:38:26 AM PDT by notdownwidems (Shellback pollywogs! U.S.S. William H. Standley, CG-32 1977-80)
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To: roofgoat

One F1 clip I never tire of watching is the the last few laps of the 1979 French GP where Gilles Villeneuve and Rene Arnoux went at it tooth and nail for second place.


64 posted on 09/04/2014 11:46:24 AM PDT by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: qam1

qam1, never underestimate PC, forced acceptance of culture and white guilt.

Last year there were legit complaints about the Dodgers OF Puig. Don’t remember if the gripes were showboating, lack of discipline, whatever.

Anyway, like clockwork some Pajama Boy “writer” on CNN/SI sobbed all over his enlightened article about “cultural” differences and youthful indiscretion. Excuses, excuses. How dare middle America voice their opinion towards a man of color and culture.

Same BS I saw last year with the Winnipeg press. I follow the Jets. They have 2 black guys. Dustin Byfuglien and Evander Kane. Dustin is a stand up, solid player.

Kane is a typical immature urban attitude player who has underachieved. Fans get on him because he doesn’t produce and his urban attitude - ex during the strike and with economy being rough, he’s tweeting pictures of himself in Vegas with a wad of cash bragging about his money. Not the end of the world but most hockey fans don’t go for flash and ego.

But sure enough, the lily white press writes that criticism of Kane is “racially tinged”.

I mean in my 40 years or so of watching and reading about sports figures, its so rare to see fans voice their displeasure over an athlete. Right or wrong, it just doesn’t happen much. SARC


65 posted on 09/04/2014 11:51:05 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: ZirconEncrustedTweezers

I’ll have to check that one out.


66 posted on 09/04/2014 11:52:03 AM PDT by roofgoat
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To: dfwgator; qam1
I never see any Blacks in attendance,

Tickets are too expensive....

The same can be said about baseball and basketball......look at the crowds, very, very few blacks in attendance.

67 posted on 09/04/2014 11:55:31 AM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: Hot Tabasco

I know I can’t afford tickets anymore. I got 4 free tickets to see the St Louis Cardinals last year. I couldn’t believe the price of the tickets.

I also had a stroke when I bought 4 hotdogs, 4 fries and 2 large cokes to the tune of $40 something.

I broke down and bought tickets to see the Blues-Jets hockey game last spring. If you think baseball tix are expensive, hockey tix are insane. I felt guilty buying them


68 posted on 09/04/2014 12:04:24 PM PDT by roofgoat
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To: roofgoat

I think a lot of the really bad apples in baseball get weeded out before they get to the pros. NFL and NBA have super popular farm systems where it’s harder to nix out problems if they have real talent. Not that MLB doesn’t have its share of jerks, for sure.

It used to go too far the other way, sticking someone just because they homered off you last AB is just as bush as staring at your dead center homer as it leaves. Too much of that bat flipping garbage goes on today too.

Freegards


69 posted on 09/04/2014 12:34:29 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: the scotsman

At one time I was an avid football watcher. My fav was the Dallas Cowboys coached by Tom Landry. Those days are long gone. And the Cowboys have never been the same since.

In the fall of 2008 I quit watching TV altogether. From what I read now of the NFL, I’m not missing very much.


70 posted on 09/04/2014 12:43:58 PM PDT by upchuck (It's a shame nobama truly doesn't care about any of this. Our country, our future, he doesn't care.)
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To: the scotsman
More than that, however, he says he objects to "the cynical commercialisation of the sport, its cultish celebration of violence and the more subtle ways in which football warps our societal attitudes about race, gender and sexual orientation."

Reminds me of Robert Downey Jr.'s line from Back to School: "Me and Standish and Redding are doing the anti-pep rally to point out that a violent ground acquisition game such as football is, in fact a crypto-fascist metaphor for nuclear war."

71 posted on 09/04/2014 12:45:03 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (The IRS: either criminally irresponsible in backup procedures or criminally responsible of coverup.)
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To: roofgoat
I know I can’t afford tickets anymore.

Nor can I......I even turn down tickets to events because first off, I get bored watching live sports and second, the extreme hassle I have to go thru to drive into detroit, navigate the maze of idiotic streets to get to the respective stadiums, find parking (and pay for it) then figure out how the hell to get out of there after the games end..........

As a side note, a few years ago when my niece and her husband were still married, they had season tickets for the Red Wings. As a Christmas present, they gave me a pair of tickets valued at $175 ea. for some exclusive section of cobo arena that catered only to season ticket holders, accessed by a private elevator provided they had these tickets. Free food, all kinds of stuff...............I gave them to my neighbors who are red wing fans.......They of course loved the experience.

72 posted on 09/04/2014 12:49:58 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Is there such a thing as a vegan zombie?)
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To: Ransomed

And Jim’s career was seriously impacted by injuries. I’m sure there’s a few, and the lack of contact in baseball is probably very tempting, but they do long term damage too.


73 posted on 09/04/2014 1:06:11 PM PDT by discostu (We don't leave the ladies crying cause the story's sad.)
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To: the scotsman

As you know, real football is played with the feet. :D

Aye ready!


74 posted on 09/04/2014 1:08:52 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: notdownwidems

Hell... Sometimes the kickoffs go through the uprights. LOL

(that should NOT happen)


75 posted on 09/04/2014 2:42:39 PM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist")
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To: Colonel_Flagg

LOL

I take it you are keeping up with the positive on field and depressing off-field news at Ibrox?.

My dad’s best friend is Johnny Hubbard btw. And the three of us had a chat on Ayr High Street today. We chat most mornings with wee Johnny.


76 posted on 09/04/2014 3:30:44 PM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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To: the scotsman

Yes to both. I’m thinking that people should be strung up for what’s happening now ... naming rights for Ibrox sold for one English pound?

And if you do have another conversation with the master of the penalty, tell him he has a fan in the States :)


77 posted on 09/04/2014 6:44:42 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: the scotsman

The NFL has gone totally PC. I have lost interest. A team drafting a player who isn’t good enough to play in the league just because of where he says he likes to stick his whacker for a good time was the last straw.


78 posted on 09/04/2014 6:51:56 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite it's unfashionability)
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To: the scotsman
Whatever happened to raking the leaves in the lawn on a crisp, cool autumn afternoon and then coming inside to some glasses of hard apple cider to watch some football?

Remember Howard Cosell? He was the best.

Those days are gone forever.

79 posted on 09/04/2014 7:01:33 PM PDT by SamAdams76
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To: Colonel_Flagg

Ibrox should never be named, but if it was, at least do it for big bucks that we badly need.

Will do.


80 posted on 09/05/2014 6:01:55 AM PDT by the scotsman (UK)
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