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Top GOPer says it’s time to dissolve ATF
Washington Times ^ | 9/17/14 | Stephen Dinan

Posted on 09/17/2014 1:34:37 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator

A top Republican House member on Wednesday proposed eliminating the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, writing a bill that would freeze all hiring at the troubled agency and require the Justice Department to come up with a plan for transferring its duties to other agencies.

Rep. F. James Sensenbrenner Jr., the Wisconsin Republican who wrote the bill, called it both a chance to streamline government and to clean up an agency that’s been criticized from the right and the left for botched gun-running operations.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtontimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; US: Wisconsin
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; atf; banglist; batf; fastfurious; secondamendment; sensenbrenner; thewisconsin
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I don't know if his plan is good or not, because having the Justice Deparment transfer the duties would put even more power into the demonic hands of Eric Holder or other evildoers of his ilk. Why not simply eliminate the duties of the ATF entirely, and have all of its employees executed for treason?
1 posted on 09/17/2014 1:34:38 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator
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To: Objective Scrutator

Pour the alphabet soup down the sewer of outdated $hit. That goes for every letter.


2 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:35 PM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

The ATF was primarily a tax collection agency until the GCA of 1968. When they expanded it to regulating guns, they screwed up.


3 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:51 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (The cure has become worse than the disease. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Kill the ATF.


4 posted on 09/17/2014 1:36:59 PM PDT by cripplecreek ("Moderates" are lying manipulative bottom feeding scum.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

I heard the ATFE should be a convenience store and not a government agency.


5 posted on 09/17/2014 1:37:38 PM PDT by mosaicwolf (Strength and Honor)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Then he can close IRS, TSA, DHS, EPA, DoE, HHS, and oh....the list goes on forever.

Maybe keep the DoD. Rename it back to its old name: War Department.

Might as well be honest.


6 posted on 09/17/2014 1:38:15 PM PDT by Regulator
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To: Objective Scrutator

In this economy, isn’t that what unemployment is?


7 posted on 09/17/2014 1:39:43 PM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: Objective Scrutator

How was this thing formed anyway? Was there a problem with people who like to drink, smoke , shoot and blow stuff up?


8 posted on 09/17/2014 1:40:42 PM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Isn’t it an old joke that Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearm’s should be the name of a convenience store, not a government agency!


9 posted on 09/17/2014 1:41:31 PM PDT by GMMC0987
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Perhaps this is an explanation...


10 posted on 09/17/2014 1:43:33 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Now, I need a drink.


11 posted on 09/17/2014 1:44:26 PM PDT by NeoCaveman (DC, it's Versailles on the Potomac but without the food and culture)
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To: Objective Scrutator

Felonies for EVERY illegally kept Form 4473.

Defund and disband, discontinue the duties.


12 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:21 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Objective Scrutator; All

ATF’s responsibilities need to be checked against Congress’s constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers. I suspect that ATF does things that cannot be justified under Section 8.


13 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:38 PM PDT by Amendment10
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Back in the 1970s, Rep. John Dingell (D-MI) coined the term “jackbooted thugs” for the ATF. He and others wanted to dissolve ATF and five its duties to the FBI. The thing that killed the bill was not one federal agency wanted to take the ex-ATF agents, so low were their abilities regarded.
14 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:46 PM PDT by MasterGunner01
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To: Objective Scrutator

That’s gotta be one of the best ads for increasing beer sales I’ve ever seen.


15 posted on 09/17/2014 1:45:54 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Regulator

Other than the War Department, there is no need to have any federal agencies. Not a one of them has done a single positive thing for America during their miserable existences.


16 posted on 09/17/2014 1:47:07 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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That goes for every letter.

Art. I, Section 8 does not mention a single 3-letter agency or bureau. How about dropping ALL 3-letter acronym bureaucracies. To start with.

17 posted on 09/17/2014 1:49:34 PM PDT by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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Why transfer the responsibility to Justice Dept????

Why can’t Congress just decide what the function of a new ATF would be - or what stays and what goes? Isn’t that Congress’ job?


18 posted on 09/17/2014 1:50:21 PM PDT by PGR88
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To: Objective Scrutator

So it’s started. I tell you, folks, if the GOP takes the Senate, funding bills are going to get interesting.

First of all, I think you’ll see the end of the Continuing Resolution in favor of individual spending bills.

And if Obama doesn’t go along, just don’t fund the agency at all. It’s hard to veto a bill that he doesn’t get, but no funding bill, no money. How hard would it be to see the ATF shut down completely for lack of funding? Or the Department of Education? Or the EPA? Or Valerie Jarrett’s secret service detail?

Congress has the power of the purse, and that power is significant. I’m betting that Boehner and McConnell will use it in some very creative, and currently unanticipated, ways.

Besides, I’ve had my current tagline for years now, and it’s about time someone tried implementing it.


19 posted on 09/17/2014 1:51:51 PM PDT by Norseman (Defund the Left-Completely!)
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To: Objective Scrutator

I am OK with that!


20 posted on 09/17/2014 1:52:35 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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