Posted on 09/19/2014 9:39:11 PM PDT by This Just In
I can appreciate the importance of the information, but your previous post which drew no distinction between L-Carnitine and Carnitine is incorrect.
In post #34 I noted the importance of Carnitine.
Carnitine occurs in two forms, known as D and L, that are mirror images (isomers) of each other. Only L-carnitine is active in the body and is the form found in food.
The relevant distinction, as I understand it, is that D-Carnatine is found in meat and is converted to L-Carnatine in the body, while lysine and methionine from vegetable sources are converted to L-Carnatine in the body.
Why is that distinction important?
I noted above that she should have been supplementing B12 in her own diet, which most all vegans do.
Kennard, wake up. Your leg is being pulled. Go hang out with some vegan families and look at their kids, the younger the closer. Unless those families are pumping supplements -- a nutty and wasteful approach to nutrition -- they will be afflicted with allergies, low energy, and listlessness.
Vegetarians, on the other hand, who eat animal protein in the form of dairy and eggs, get what they need in the animal protein dept. No, vegans are in a league of their own and they are fooling with Mother Nature when they insist on choosing their own "ethical" diet shunning animal protein.
YEP!!!
As I had mentioned previously, Kennard, I disregard ALL information provided by any government agency.
Any adult who subjects a child to a vegan diet is ... a monster, IMO.
It’s a simple truth, demonstrable, but veganism is their religion, and heresy will not be tolerated.
Are you terrified to see what would happen if you did that?
I wouldn’t go so far as to label all vegan parents as monsters. I believe that some of them are convinced they’re doing the right thing, and are misinformed, or brainwashed, or both.
I especially feel sorry for these children.
Then what in hell is the rationale for being vegan? If you're crucially dependent on a man-made manufactured supplement, or laboratory produced which the body metabolizes differently -- how dumb is that?
*shaking head*
If you count milk from a vegan mother as a vegan diet, then the child will thrive.
The "meat-eating makes big brains" theory has been discredited.
From a distance, I don't.
It's when I see it up-close-and-personal that I do. It's child abuse inflicted in vanity, regardless of their noble intentions.
Then list the top ten large-brained animals on planet earth.
You think you haven't been affected by your vegan diet. YOU HAVE.
I am a fifteen-year vegan, in excellent health. My doctor tells me that I am in the top one percentile for general health and fitness. I did it for health, not ethical reasons. Twenty-five years ago,, my concern was my father's heart disease and colon cancer. I read Dr. Dean Ornish's books, who eventually convinced Bill Clinton to become a vegan. You can bet Clinton didn't do it for ethical reasons: he was looking out for number one. As my knowledge increased, I progressed through saturated fat, cholesterol, sodium, sugar and caffeine reduction to lacto-ovo-vegetarian to lacto-vegetarian and eventually vegan. I've had a quarter century of being scoffed at.
“Likely completely absent. Hello peripheral neuropathy.”
Followed by death.
That is why I am discussing and researching the topic of carnitine with another Freeper above. I constantly test my understanding. If I was to conclude that I should be eating meat, then I would do so. I have no ego tied up in this, just a desire to find the best solution. Nutritional science is changing more rapidly every year.
Natural, ground, flax seeds are a good source of B12. There is no need for an artificial product. I just find B12 tablets to be more convenient than grinding flax seeds.
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