Posted on 10/13/2014 3:06:55 PM PDT by grundle
Although circumcision was authorized by God and only later did it become optional. It’s also very private.
Perhaps, we agree. It’s totally wrong to state that even the most tattooed or pierced face is beyond the Atonement of Jesus Christ, at least for Christians.
That said, we must still judge. A person who alters their natural normal appearance is making a statement about themselves, their insecurities, and their mental state. Your face is your billboard to the world and advertises a lot about you. You can write “I love you” and it has one connotation. Face to face you can say it with a sneer and it has another.
It sounds like for too many it’s an either or situation when it is not. She can be a Christian, but her adornment is Christ. If you read the article it also appears that she would have had sex outside marriage with at least two guys she’d known, but didn’t. So it isn’t God’s laws that are keeping her from being unchaste, but just the opportunity with the “right guy”.
The message we send about ourselves attracts or repels a certain kind of person. Despite appearances, I work to be Christlike to everyone I meet, but it would be foolish not to make judgements. Godliness is the goal, but this is still the Devil’s world.
If you were to advise a young person on whether or not to get tattooed or pierced (other than a single piercing for a woman) what would you advise?
Genesis 24:22 “And it came to pass, as the camels had done drinking, that the man took a golden earring of half a shekel weight, and two bracelets for her hands of ten shekels weight of gold;”
I don’t see a nose ring there.
The key is modest. Modest.
Is a nose ring in today’s culture modest ?
Why does one choose to wear it ?
The piercings and tatoos of today came out of youth culture, the “tramp stamp” and the tongue ring, both of which have sinful meanings.
It may well be that a nose ring could be worn in a modest intent, in which case it is fine, but we must keep in mind that it is better to err on the side of caution when considering what is fashionable, as “fashion” is a very common idea that leads Christians to live “of the world” instead of simply “in the world”.
We used to call these gals spinsters back in the day. I'm sure the Millennials will think up a catchy word for their own version.
“ifinnegan, I assure you I have no comprehension problems. If you want to belabor this point, have at it. I’ll win.”
Thanks for the assurance.
Anyhow,
I see you have a lot of problems, lack of intelligence being first and foremost.
Not being Christian or conservative comes in second.
I wonder why you try to talk about things you know nothing about, with attempts to insult and belittle.
It’s a strange psychology on your part.
Any how, all the best to you, you need it.
1. So many young people will let a stranger inject ink under their skins, yet would scream bloody murder at you for offering them tap water to drink. 2.I'd rather let my bass-playing tell people who I am; don't need ink under my skin to do that. 3)Nothing is a bigger turn-off than seeing a girl with a nicely endowed body make it look hideous with ink under her skin.
Even if perfectly safe, they aren’t right
Tattoos look bad. Don’t make people look better.
But they are also prohibited just like male homosexuality is prohibited in the Old Testament.
Twink, my only obligation is to try to express truth. It’s not my obligation to suppress it because it might not be popular.
This woman’s virginity is not the issue. The issue is people virgin or not, who reach a certain age after living alone.
As I expressed in another post, after living alone for a number of years people become less willing to change from a person who makes all decisions by themselves to a person who has to allow for decisions to be made by someone else at least in part. They can also grow to be unwilling to see their living condition upset by a new individual sharing the space.
There is some psychology behind it. I’m not an expert. I’m merely conveying what I’ve read.
Perhaps you can find a number of articles that say just the opposite. That’s fine with me.
I am fully supportive of marriage. I’m not here to undercut it. I do not approve of people living together before marriage. I’ve never done it myself.
In the last twenty-five years, I have been with one woman. It was my wife. She has been gone for going on two years. I’m not compelled to sleep with someone else.
I am very familiar with the Bible. I am familiar with the verses. I am also able to think for myself, and there are parts of the Bible I don’t take literally.
To me the decision to be with one person doesn’t happen on the day you say I do. It takes place when you decide that you will say I do, and with incredible happiness.
So do I think that if a woman and a man have sex 48 hours before they are officially married, they are going to rot in hell for all of eternity? No.
You can scrape up every Bible verse you can find, I’m still not going to buy into the idea that God will curse you forever because after a 50 year marriage full of joy and love and friendship, you had sex 48 hours too early.
Now maybe that makes me a heathen. To me it makes me a person that understands God loves us and knows what is in our hearts.
Isn't that technically "rape" or at least sexual harassment/abuse?
Or does the Clinton-era N.O.W. excuse "the first grope is free" rule still apply?
It could be worse - she could wear a burka until her wedding night. Surprise, dude!
Putting a ring in your nose says, "look at my nose!".
Didn’t he fill out the proper state paperwork on making out first?
Sound advice. Ya know my parents cautioned me not to marry a girl who wasn’t a Christian. I learned the hard way parents know best.
Can we then assume that you bow to the Ishtar/Mary proxy goddess?
Your fixation on ‘weed’ and your pet moon bats is quite an enhancement to your avowed paganism.
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However, it's as easy to lie about being a Christian as it is to lie at the border and say, "I don't have Ebola symptoms."
We have seven children---three now married.
We did not admonish our children and then release them to date whomsoever they wanted.
We trained our children to watch the behavior and interests of potential mates prior to expressing interest, and to investigate the propensities of potential mates by speaking to pastors and others involved in their lives.
Is the 'potential' known to have been openly practicing Biblical Christianity in and through their local church prior to knowing that my children even exist?
So, the admonition is "Only consider an individual whose life had already been openly and certifiably demonstrating their faith in Christ prior to meeting you."
Obviously, to do that, it requires exposure to 'potentials' within a limited range of churches and multi-church activities, where high standards of courtship, marriage, and childhood/teen discipline already exist across the church or fellowship of churches.
” Isn’t that technically “rape” or at least sexual harassment/abuse?
Or does the Clinton-era N.O.W. excuse “the first grope is free” rule still apply?”
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Dude I think we are beyond Clinton. It’s more like Whoopi’s “Was it rape rape?”
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The Bible tells us to repent when we sin, which means, of course, first acknowledging our sin, then seeking God’s forgiveness, then comes “go and sin no more”.
Prior to my conversion, I lived with my first wife for years before we married. We assumed we would marry during that time. But we were still living in sin.
So what is the Biblical “cutoff for having sex before marriage”, where it is “ok” ? 2 days ? What about 2 weeks ? 2 years ?
If the WHOLE time, you KNOW you’re “going to get married”.
The Bible does not present such a latitude, as in, “if you’re going to be married within 10 days, it’s not a sin to have sex”. All it says is that sex outside of marriage is fornication and thus a sin.
You are quite sincere, I am only trying to help. I was completely oblivious to Scripture up until a few short years ago. When I experienced my conversion, I got very upset - by the words of the Bible - wondering if I had committed a grave sin that was not pardonable. I was REALLY worried. Finally the “bell went off” in my head - and in my heart - all my prior sins are exactly why I need the shed blood of Christ - because I did sin. All the hair-splitting in the world won’t save me; I am part of the “all fall short of the glory of God”.
The sins prior to conversion - will be numerous and serious - that is a given. We certainly can’t expect to have much success at avoiding sin prior to the Holy Spirit dwelling within us.
The true believer, born again, converted to Christ, repents, and is cleansed of their sin by the blood of Christ.
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