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Vanity: Constitutional Amendment Booklet
01 Nov 14 | OneWingedShark

Posted on 11/01/2014 6:20:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark

So, I've been working on a little booklet to present/illustrate the reasons why the amendments are needed in addition to the amendment-text itself — I'm not entirely pleased with the justifications I've written up, and I'm not sure that these are enough for presenting to an Article V Amendment-convention, but nonetheless here they are.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; Your Opinion/Questions
KEYWORDS: amendment; articlev; constitution
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For reference, the starting text of these is/was:

Tax Reform Amendment Fiscal Responsibility Amendment
Section I
No tax, federal or state, shall ever be withheld from the wages of a worker of any citizen of either.

Section II
No property shall be seized for failure to pay taxes until after conviction in a jury trial; the right of the jury to nullify (and thereby forgive) this debt shall never be questioned or denied.

Section III
The second amendment is hereby recognized as restricting the power of taxation, both federal and state, therefore no tax (or fine) shall be laid upon munitions or the sale thereof.

Section IV
The seventh amendment is also hereby recognized, and nothing in this amendment shall restrict the right of a citizen to seek civil redress.

Section V
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever exceed 10%.

Section VI
No income tax levied by the federal government, the several States, or any subdivision of either shall ever apply varying rates to those in its jurisdiction.

Section VII
No retroactive or ex post facto tax (or fee) shall ever be valid.

Section VIII
The congress may not delegate the creation of any tax or fine in any way.

Section IX
No federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent shall ever be exempt from any tax, fine, or fee by virtue of their position.

Section X
Any federal employee, representative, senator, judge, justice or agent applying, attempting to apply, or otherwise causing the application of an ex post facto, retrospective, or retroactive law shall, upon conviction, be evicted from office and all retirement benefits forfeit.
Section I
The power of Congress to regulate the value of the dollar is hereby repealed.

Section II
The value of the Dollar shall be one fifteen-hundredth avoirdupois ounce of gold of which impurities do not exceed one part per thousand.

Section III
To guard against Congress using its authority over weights and measures to bypass Section I, the ounce in Section II is approximately 28.3495 grams (SI).

Section IV
The Secretary of the Treasury shall annually report the gold physically in its possession; this report shall be publicly available.

Section V
The power of the Congress to assume debt is hereby restricted: the congress shall assume no debt that shall cause the total obligations of the United States to exceed one hundred ten percent of the amount last reported by the Secretary of the Treasury.

Section VI
Any government agent, officer, judge, justice, employee, representative, or congressman causing gold to be confiscated from a private citizen shall be tried for theft and upon conviction shall:
a. be removed from office (and fired, if an employee),
b. forfeit all pension and retirement benefits,
c. pay all legal costs, and
d. restore to the bereaved twice the amount in controversy.

Section VII
The federal government shall assume no obligation lacking funding, neither shall it lay such obligation on any of the several States, any subdivision thereof, or any place under the jurisdiction of the United States. All unfunded liabilities heretofore assumed by the United States are void.

Section VIII
The federal government shall make all payments to its employees or the several states in physical gold. Misappropriation, malfeasance and/or misfeasance of funds shall be considered confiscation.
Commerce Clause Amendment Senate Reform Amendment
Section I
The federal government shall directly subsidize no product or industry whatsoever, saving the promotion the progress of Science and useful Arts.

Section II
The federal government shall never prescribe nor proscribe what the several states teach. Neither the federal government nor the several states shall ever deny the right of parents to teach and instruct their children as they see fit.

Section III
The congress may impose tariffs, excise taxes, and customs duties on anything imported or exported, provided that they are applied uniformly and in no manner restrict, subvert, or circumvent the second amendment.

Section IV
No law may impose prohibitions of any sort on the commerce between the several states due to the item itself.
Section I
The seventeenth amendment is hereby repealed.

Section II
The several states may provide by law the means by which their senators may be removed or replaced.

Any comments or suggestions would be appreciated; comments are enabled on the google-drive document, so you can leave them there, or on this thread, or by FReepmail.

1 posted on 11/01/2014 6:20:33 PM PDT by OneWingedShark
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To: Lurker; boxlunch; null and void; GeronL; Gilbo_3; MrB; Mr. K; Dead Corpse; EternalVigilance; ...

Ping.


2 posted on 11/01/2014 6:23:25 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
What a mess.

Do you do-gooders understand that a Constitutional Convention opens up the entire--the ENTIRE--Constitution for amendment, not just simply the little portions you are concerned about?

That, of course, means that the Mexicans, the Muslims, the gun-dooer-away-withers, and anyone else with an agenda, can put their two-cents ideas into the mix? So instead of amendments having to do with your particular agenda, we may have amendments that legitimize actions that are now illegal?

How would you like abortion as a Constitutionally-guaranteed action? Or the First Lady or First Husband as a paid U.S. employee? Or . . . a First Husband of a male president?

Boy, what a mess.
3 posted on 11/01/2014 6:38:31 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: Jacquerie

Art. V-ish Ping.


4 posted on 11/01/2014 6:38:49 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: 5thGenTexan; AllAmericanGirl44; Amagi; Art in Idaho; Arthur Wildfire! March; Arthur McGowan; ...

Article V ping.


5 posted on 11/01/2014 6:40:40 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: righttackle44
The amendatory process under Article V consists of three steps: Proposal, Disposal, and Ratification.

Proposal:

There are two ways to propose an amendment to the Constitution.

Article V gives Congress and an Amendments Convention exactly the same power to propose amendments, no more and no less.

Disposal:

Once Congress, or an Amendments Convention, proposes amendments, Congress must decide whether the states will ratify by the:

The State Ratifying Convention Method has only been used twice: once to ratify the Constitution, and once to ratify the 21st Amendment repealing Prohibition.

Ratification:

Depending upon which ratification method is chosen by Congress, either the state legislatures vote up-or-down on the proposed amendment, or the voters elect a state ratifying convention to vote up-or-down. If three-quarters of the states vote to ratify, the amendment becomes part of the Constitution.

Forbidden Subjects:

Article V contains two explicitly forbidden subjects and one implicitly forbidden subject.

Explicitly forbidden:

Implicitly forbidden:

I have two reference works for those interested.

The first is from the American Legislative Exchange Council, a conservative pro-business group. This document has been sent to every state legislator in the country.

Proposing Constitutional Amendments by a Convention of the States: A Handbook for State Lawmakers

The second is a 1973 report from the American Bar Association attempting to identify gray areas in the amendatory process to include an Amendments Convention. It represents the view of the ruling class of 40 years ago. While I dislike some of their conclusions, they have laid out the precedents that may justify those conclusions. What I respect is the comprehensive job they did in locating all the gray areas. They went so far as to identify a gray area that didn't pop up until the Equal Rights Amendment crashed and burned a decade later. Even if you find yourself in disagreement with their vision, it's worth reading to see the view of the ruling class toward the process.

Report of the ABA Special Constitutional Convention Study Committee

6 posted on 11/01/2014 6:41:39 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: righttackle44
What a mess.

What in particular do you disagree with?
What can I do to better explain the needs for these amendments?

Do you do-gooders understand that a Constitutional Convention opens up the entire--the ENTIRE--Constitution for amendment, not just simply the little portions you are concerned about?

In any case, whether the whole Constitution is opened for amendment or only the subjects of the amendment-convention, do you not understand that the legislatures of 38 States would have to agree to it?
If you're asserting that we can't count on 13 States to reject utter crap, then the only other recourse is violence. Period.

That, of course, means that the Mexicans, the Muslims, the gun-dooer-away-withers, and anyone else with an agenda, can put their two-cents ideas into the mix? So instead of amendments having to do with your particular agenda, we may have amendments that legitimize actions that are now illegal?

Do you think that less than 13 states would oppose these?

How would you like abortion as a Constitutionally-guaranteed action?

Do you think that less than 13 States would oppose that?

Or the First Lady or First Husband as a paid U.S. employee? Or . . . a First Husband of a male president?

Do you think that less than 13 States would oppose this?

7 posted on 11/01/2014 6:50:42 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Publius

Thank you for the references and explaination.


8 posted on 11/01/2014 6:52:24 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I found it useful to print off both documents, run them through a 3-hole punch and then put them in a binder. There is a lot of good material there for reference purposes.


9 posted on 11/01/2014 6:53:48 PM PDT by Publius ("Who is John Galt?" by Billthedrill and Publius now available at Amazon.)
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To: Publius

Thanks for the ping!


10 posted on 11/01/2014 6:59:48 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: OneWingedShark

Thanks for the ping!


11 posted on 11/01/2014 6:59:51 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: righttackle44

“What a mess”...
...that you have such poor skills in comprehension.


12 posted on 11/01/2014 7:01:42 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: OneWingedShark

?linky no worky?


13 posted on 11/01/2014 7:03:51 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
It is on google-drive, so if you have that blocked (like with No-script) it won't work.
If you FReepmail me your e-mail address I'll gladly pop the PDF over to you as an attachment.
14 posted on 11/01/2014 7:15:23 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark

I managed to get it from internet explorer (firefox no worky).
Thanks!


15 posted on 11/01/2014 7:19:10 PM PDT by Repeal The 17th (We have met the enemy and he is us.)
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To: Repeal The 17th
I managed to get it from internet explorer (firefox no worky).
Thanks!

Good to hear you got it.
I look forward to your comments.

16 posted on 11/01/2014 7:32:48 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Publius
I found it useful to print off both documents, run them through a 3-hole punch and then put them in a binder. There is a lot of good material there for reference purposes

That's a really good idea.
Thank you.

17 posted on 11/01/2014 7:33:32 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: righttackle44

Artilce V no way opens up the entire Consitution.


18 posted on 11/01/2014 7:44:38 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: righttackle44

I understand your concern but what you have stated here is highly improbable. Any amendment proposed by a convention of states must be ratified by the state’s just as any other proposed amendment must be. IMHO none of what you fear could happen because amendments proposing what you fear could ever be ratified.


19 posted on 11/01/2014 7:56:36 PM PDT by Nuc 1.1 (Nuc 1 Liberals aren't Patriots. Remember 1789!)
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To: OneWingedShark

Well done !!

The beauty of what you are proposing is that none of them are programmatic like prohibition was.


20 posted on 11/01/2014 7:57:39 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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