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The issue is whether facilitated suicide is a right. If it is, it can’t be limited to the dying.

Few people realize this and if it IS somehow a right, that means that the right to life is not unalienable.

1 posted on 11/10/2014 12:19:10 PM PST by wagglebee
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3 posted on 11/10/2014 12:20:28 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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4 posted on 11/10/2014 12:21:16 PM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: wagglebee

we are the very edge...of the most dangerous set of legal decisions to ever have come down in the U.S.A.

There will be protests by “Suicide RIghts” groups....backed by the worst eugenics scum on the planet.


5 posted on 11/10/2014 12:22:07 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill)
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To: wagglebee

Having the right to do something and deciding whether to do it are two different things. An individual can choose not to exercise that right. That doesn’t mean it’s not inalienable.


6 posted on 11/10/2014 12:28:12 PM PST by Hugin ("Do yourself a favor--first thing, get a firearm!",)
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To: wagglebee

Contrast that with Lauren Hill who fights for every day she can. Lauren is living her life with dignity.

http://www.wcpo.com/news/local-news/everyone-loves-lauren-hill-and-they-should


7 posted on 11/10/2014 12:47:03 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: wagglebee

Well said....
While I understand everybody in life at some point gets depressed and thinks about suicide, actually advocating it as a right is really outrageous. Suicide is extremely selfish and the trail of pain that it leaves behind is long.

This opens up a really big can of worms IMO.


9 posted on 11/10/2014 12:49:30 PM PST by Roman_War_Criminal
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Unsure of where I really stand on this issue. It is a tough one.
If my doctor told me I was diseased, had a 0% chance of survival, and the next four months would be in excruciating pain until I died in a twisted heap...I might contemplate avenues.
10 posted on 11/10/2014 12:50:14 PM PST by Blue Jays (Rock Hard, Ride Free)
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To: wagglebee

Suicide is a tragedy. It is not dignified. The death culture controls Big Media and the sheeple follow them blindly. Life is precious to those who have a conscience.


12 posted on 11/10/2014 12:52:21 PM PST by originalbuckeye (Moderation in temper is always a virtue; moderation in principle is always a vice. Paine)
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To: wagglebee

‘For my father’s disease, there is no cure.’

Life itself is a terminal illness whose only cure is death.


15 posted on 11/10/2014 1:02:24 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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‘As his days devolved into a drudgery of pills, bad daytime TV,.....’

No Netflix?


17 posted on 11/10/2014 1:04:33 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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I was watching a St. Jude’s commercial last night. Those brave little kids. They are in the fight of their lives. And yet they exhibit all the human virtues in the face of an enemy. Not one of them would ever think of offing themselves. They are brave little souls.


18 posted on 11/10/2014 1:05:10 PM PST by Slyfox (To put on the mind of George Washington read ALL of Deuteronomy 28, then read his Farewell Address)
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To: wagglebee
Few people realize this and if it IS somehow a right, that means that the right to life is not unalienable.

That's a very torturous connection of thoughts. Why not just deal with the case at hand. End of life decisions should be, and are, a human right. You and/or the government have no business butting in to those decisions.

24 posted on 11/10/2014 1:42:42 PM PST by Go Gordon (Barack McGreevey Obama)
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The left loves death, unless it’s for convicted murderers.


25 posted on 11/10/2014 1:50:42 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: wagglebee

Dignity is the result of self-respect. It cannot be taken away, it can only be set aside deliberately.
Quitting is not self-respect.


26 posted on 11/10/2014 2:11:12 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: wagglebee

As an Orthodox Christian, I share the author’s deep-seated objections to suicide, “assisted” or otherwise. However, I’m not sure that objecting to the “death with dignity” rhetoric is the right place to fight the issue.

Certainly many pagan cultures have seen suicide as a dignified end under certain circumstances — from the losing general falling upon his sword in Roman times to the full ritual sepuku of the Japanese ultranationalist author Yukio Mishima (full ritual sepuku was always a form of assisted suicide) — and while the pagan notion is morally wrong, dignity is an aesthetic, rather than a moral, category and neither Brutus’s death nor Mishima’s strikes me as lacking dignity.


28 posted on 11/10/2014 3:09:02 PM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: wagglebee

Good call, they are trying to re-define “suicide” as “dignity.”

We have also had the words “gay,” “marriage,” “rainbow,” “family,” “love,” “gender,” and “tolerance” redefined for us. At least they are trying hard.


29 posted on 11/10/2014 3:34:03 PM PST by Persevero (Come on 2016)
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Suicide is suicide. I can’t find beauty in this decision. No other way to explain it for me. I have known too many friends who were given a short time to live and lived much longer or are still going strong. I will stay by you in your darkest hours but don’t ask me to unplug a machine or give you a overdose because I would have to carry that action for life’s eternity and beyond.


31 posted on 11/10/2014 3:40:37 PM PST by Christie at the beach
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To: wagglebee
The issue is whether facilitated suicide is a right. If it is, it can’t be limited to the dying. Few people realize this and if it IS somehow a right, that means that the right to life is not unalienable.

How so? The difference is whether the individual opts to forfeit his life or if someone else makes the decision to murder him. Not condoning assisted suicide but, in the case of those with fatal illness that will make daily existence harder and harder for the person and their loved ones, for a possibly protracted period, I will not judge them or condemn them. Some may consider it a sacrifice for the benefit of their loved ones - someone in the past allowed Himself to be sacrificed when he could have stopped it and opted to allow Himself to be killed.

33 posted on 11/11/2014 3:25:13 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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btt


34 posted on 11/11/2014 5:24:34 PM PST by Dante3
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