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1 posted on 12/27/2014 9:15:43 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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It’s the commie northwest and west that’s the problem.


2 posted on 12/27/2014 9:21:18 AM PST by broken_arrow1 (I regret that I have but one life to give for my country - Nathan Hale "Patriot")
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Should we celebrate the supposed conservative "New South" when the leadership includes Lindsey Graham, Lamar Alexander, and Thad Cochran, RINOs all? Will 2014 represent the high water mark of conservatism in the South as Gettysburg did to Lee? The South's changing demographics may be the herald of a new sea of blue.
3 posted on 12/27/2014 9:30:48 AM PST by buckalfa (Too many evenings spent at the North Heidelberg back in 1968)
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"to Hiram Revels, who was elected to the U.S. Senate and had the distinction of holding the seat that Confederate President Jefferson Davis once held."

No, Revels held the other Senate seat from MS. Black Republican Blanche K. Bruce did win the seat Davis held, however.

6 posted on 12/27/2014 9:35:00 AM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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Bump!


10 posted on 12/27/2014 9:42:00 AM PST by painter ( Isaiah: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil,")
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“This region is now a solid conservative south for the first time since Democrats seized control just after the end of the Civil War. “

Well the part about “conservative” is a bunch of B.S. THere are more RINOs in the South/South East than Carter has little pills


12 posted on 12/27/2014 9:43:49 AM PST by DanZ
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Florida is the wild card. With its continual influx of Northern liberasl to south Florida its membership in the South is tentative and subject to change with every election. If Florida tips left the nation lurches left.


13 posted on 12/27/2014 9:43:49 AM PST by arthurus
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Florida is the wild card. With its continual influx of Northern liberasl to south Florida its membership in the South is tentative and subject to change with every election. If Florida tips left the nation lurches left. The Left has the electoral votes and may win without Florida. The Conservatives cannot win without Florida.


14 posted on 12/27/2014 9:44:51 AM PST by arthurus
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Virgina's lost (all those government “workers”),NC is trending Rat and I've read that demographic trends point to GA going Rat fairly soon.And demographics clearly show TX going Rat pretty soon too (all those names ending in “z”).
16 posted on 12/27/2014 10:01:58 AM PST by Gay State Conservative (Jimmy Carter;No Longer The Worst President In My Lifetime)
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For an article that accuses Democrats of revising history, there's at least a couple of serious revisions in this article:

Two sons of the south, President Johnson, and Rev. Martin Luther King Jr. joined to shape a new dynamic in granting freedom and justice with the passage in 1964 of the Civil Rights Act and in 1965 of the Voting Rights Act.

LBJ smelled a political opportunity: nothing more. He was simply cementing a voting block for the Democrats. Anyone that knew LBJ, also knew he was the worst kind of racist: the one that smiles to your face, but stabs you in the back after you give him what he wants.

They distanced themselves from previous backers like Vice President Nixon who unlike then Senator John Kennedy, supported the civil rights struggles of the 50’s. In fact it was Nixon who invited Rev. King in 1957 to the nation’s capitol to a civil rights summit conference.

The writer could have done just a bit more research to find out what really happened.

MLK was arrested on a bogus charge during the 1960 campaign. Despite the long previous friendship between Nixon and MLK, Nixon (now Vice-President) chose to stay out of it, believing it would be "grandstanding". Compare that to Obama's propensity to insert himself into every controversy in the past 6 years.

Of course, liberals believe Nixon's choice was a calculated effort to win white votes in the South, at the expense of black votes. It fits their narrative of the non-existent "Southern Strategy".

In contrast, JFK and RFK helped to get King released. I'll leave it to the reader to decide if they did so for political reasons, or if they genuinely supported King.

Nixon still won 32% of the black vote, but that was down from Eisenhower's 40%. Four years later, LBJ had signed the Civil Rights Act and campaigned for the "Great Society" and won 94% of the black vote, setting a pattern that still continues.

20 posted on 12/27/2014 10:15:33 AM PST by justlurking (tagline removed, as demanded by Admin Moderator)
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The South has almost always been very Conservative. It only seems more or less so, at various times, in comparison with what is happening in other regions. On the other hand, neither party in the South has ever been consistently Conservative, in the sense of uniformity.

Examples: The South, while still predominantly Democratic, gave the Republican Conservative Goldwater, by far his strongest level of support. The only States that he carried were those in the deep South, plus his own Arizona. (It was also in the 1964 election, that Strom Thurmond's open switching of parties, started the trend that saw a steady flow of Southern Democratic Conservatives, joining the Republican Party.

Frankly, there is little evidence that the Louisiana election represents any stronger Conservative tide, so much as the fact that the Democratic candidate had shown that she was not the likeable moderate, she had previously managed to sell to her constituents, but a far less principled partisan, willing to go along with the vicious swing to the left, which the Obama Administration has shown itself to be.

As for the writer's attempt to suggest that Martin Luther King was somehow a part of a "Conservative" movement? That is the same error that Glen Beck embraced over four years ago. (See Plastique In The Foundation--Honor & Martin Luther King.)

There were Conservative Black Pastors in the 1950s & 1960s, particularly in the National Baptist Convention, which refused to get drawn into King's Movement; but that is now, sadly, largely forgotten in the mythology that has been promoted. But the whole thrust of the King movement was towards ever increased Federal involvement, as the answer to any problem in the lives of an ever more dependent population. (The Obama, not the American way.)

William Flax

28 posted on 12/27/2014 12:07:12 PM PST by Ohioan
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The author takes liberties with history and goes into contortions to manufacture racial political harmony. Beg pardon, but I’m not celebrating Lyndon Baines Johnson, no way, no how. Also, behind the soaring rhetoric, Martin Luther King was not what he’s been packaged and sold as being.

This sounds as if it was not written by a southerner but rather by a northeastern Republican, imho.


35 posted on 12/27/2014 12:44:09 PM PST by RegulatorCountry
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Horseshit neoyankee agitprop

Bill is right as usual


36 posted on 12/27/2014 12:58:22 PM PST by wardaddy (glenn beck is a nauseous politically correct conservative on LSD)
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The south is conservative, but liberalism takes hold in the cities and as the cities grow, the Dems take hold.

It’s this way all over the south. The states are conservative, except in the cities. Austin in Texas, New Orleans in La., Atlanta in Ga., Charlotte, Durham/Raleigh in NC, and as others have said the DC suburbs in Virginia.

The battle is not regional as much as it is city v. country.


37 posted on 12/27/2014 1:06:03 PM PST by Regal
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Blacks have enslaved themselves to the Dimocrat party and the monthly welfare check. Poor white trash also. I am well into my 60s. I grew up in Alabama. I saw all the Civil Rights movement stuff of the 1950-60s. Dr. King did it the right way. He did not riot in the streets and burn down the Quickie-Mart. But, blacks tied themselves to the Al Gore, Sr., LBJ, Hubert Humphrey’s of the 1960-70-80 and on ward. In the end, they are simply no better off today than they were in the 1950s in most things. They are freer in a lot of things of course, but they are still tied to the monthly check. They still vote lock step with the Dimocrats regardless of the fool running. They elected what they thought was a black man as president. What they got was a half & half of muslin Sunni tribe blood with a communist mother and communist education. The only true hope for blacks is to throw off the yoke of the pretend-Rev’s Al and Jessie and go their own independent way. They need to do as smart conservative black people have done, see the dimocrats for the evil they are, and get a true, free, life. I served with a lot of blacks in the Army. The grand majority that I knew personally voted for Reagan not Carter, Klinton types. They knew what made them free and served it every day. Not the Dimocrats and Welfare Checks, but served the Republic as soldiers.


44 posted on 12/27/2014 4:37:47 PM PST by RetiredArmy (MARANATHA, MARANATHA, Come quickly LORD Jesus!!! Father send thy Son!! Its Time!)
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