KS 3 Congressman Yoder's explanation for supporting Boehner

Kevin Yodder's office ^ | 1/7/2014 | Kevin Yodder

[9YearLurker]

And they all think we’re stupid.

[frog in a pot]

I disagree that this was the first time Boner could be confronted. This was a public showing of hands, that offered substantial risk for the "rebelling" Republicans, at the same time it offered the chance for a Democrat win.

I think the key point in this debate is that the conservative wing is not in the majority position within the Republican party. The move to replace Boner had to be conducted with a secret vote if there was any hope of persuading other Republican members to join the minority conservatives.

This was not a forum that lent itself to a contest with Boner, Pelosi and some unannounced candidate. It was mentioned above that 5 votes would have led to a 2d ballot. I haven't done the numbers but think it highly unlikely the conservatives, even with a 2d ballot, could have cut deeply enough into Boner's 216 without giving Pelosi's 164 a significant advantage.

Will stipulate I am not a political expert, but I think the only way for the apparent R minority to effectively test whether it was the R majority with no risk was with the secret November election. Otherwise, you get what we have.

Again, it is too damn bad there isn't anyone in the conservative wing sophisticated enough to have accomplished that. But that doesn't mean all the conservatives are two-timing a$$holes as some of the no doubt trolls in these various threads would have us believe. (Not referring to you, RinaseaofDs)

[DoodleDawg]

Yoder the Floater is a long time RINO.

[Moorings]

I believe that it is important for the Republican Congress to show a unified front as we move to stop President Obama's liberal agenda, and that is why voted for Speaker Boehner.

Actually Yoder, you just ensured that Obama's liberal agenda is NOT stopped. Boehner is now going to be teaming up with the democrats to further the important items for Democrats. It does not matter how many conservative votes you cast on upcoming bills. Boehner does not need your votes anymore as he has the democrats.

Why is it that Boehner does not feel the need to put up a unified front when it comes to spending, amnesty and other liberal issues?

Yoder, you just pissed on the voters who expected you to make a difference.

[Desron13]

Here’s a question for you folks. Why isn’t the election of the speaker done by secret ballot. The congress is fully capable of making its own election rules in this regard. I think the answer should be perfectly obvious.

[Desron13]

"Same excuse Mia Love gave, as if Pelosi had been at risk of winning."

Did Mia Love actually vote for the boner? I've been in a training class and haven't had a chance to check it out for myself.

[TheCipher]

Yes she did. Seeing as they are all giving the excuse that a vote against Boner is a vote for Pelosi, and the ONLY way Pelosi could win is with Republican votes, she must mean that she would have voted for Pelosi instead Boner.

[Svartalfiar]

Huh. At least your Rep has bothered sending a form-response. I haven’t heard anything from Pete Sessions yet.

[frog in a pot]

Who is "you folks"?

What is perfectly obvious to you?

IMO, it is simply a ceremonial event, after each party has determined in private who its candidate is, with a preordained and obvious outcome.

It appears to be on a par with the Joint Session of Congress wherein it is determined whether the results of the presidential election are without error, after a call for objections by the reps of each state.

I.e, it appears to be more of a social event than a serious political exercise.

[RinaseaofDs]

I agree. What still hasn’t evidenced is the analysis of the midterms for the establishment types. Some of them barely won. What’s his face loses in KS if McConnell doesn’t go to general quarters and saves his ass.

If the establishment believes they have a mandate, then the midterms were a pointless exercise. What I doubt is that they will look at the midterms as a wholesale repudiation of everything DC has tried to foist on us for the last 10 years. (yes, 10 - immigration).

You want to talk about timing? Paulson’s fix for the MBS mess gave rise to an even bigger bubble, exacerbated by the FedGov’s active pogrom on middle class jobs. The reason why there is a ‘minimum wage issue’ is because what few middle class jobs existed before the MBS mess are gone, either through attrition, technology, the ACA, the EPA, immigration, or record numbers of small businesses going the way of the dinosaur. McDonalds and WalMart ARE the only folks hiring. The jobs they offer USED to be jobs that STARTED a young person’s working life.

Now, they are all that remain.

What isn’t being talked about is the OTHER bubble that’s going to pop - education:

Record borrowing to build college palaces prior to 2007, and now enrollment in four year programs are dropping. Over $1T in outstanding educational loans, and probably an equal, if not bigger number in construction loans on college campuses that were offering extremely subsidized educations for majors that offer no prospect of getting a job after graduation. WSJ yesterday talked about how campuses are quietly closing facilities and buildings and trying to consolidate their facility cores. Unions are playing hell with them trimming staff, as is tenure.

That’s going to fall in all at once, not gradually. Junior colleges and vocational schools are booming. Also not a good sign. With the voc schools, the educations they are providing in the niches they cover are so underserved that they are giving MONEY-BACK GUARANTEES - you get a job after graduation (or before) OR YOUR MONEY BACK.

[Desron13]

Thanks for the confirmation. The Boner must go. He only gets flaccid when dealing with communists.

[frog in a pot]

You raise interesting points.

Many of us recall the sick feeling we had in our stomachs when the bail-out was initiated. Politics aside, it seems important in the current global marketplace that any concept of a free market be understood as limited to our domestic market and more effectively protected by import duties and such (it has been a while since my few college-level econ courses). And, of course, there is the argument our bankruptcy statutes should be honored as the law they are.

But for our current welfare system, we might have a lower class similar to that of China. It seems clear our welfare system which provides minimal existence, for the most part, does nothing more than simply feeds and nourishes a dependent voting bloc.

As for the education system, not many will shed tears if some of the top institutions are required to tighten their belts. IMO, junior colleges are a great investment for a number of reasons; but certainly because they tend to attract members of the local community to their faculty and thus tend to give it a more balanced political perspective.

Have a nice day.