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To: SunkenCiv

Islam is not the only religion that has used GOD (Their God ALLAH)to murder innocents, who do not believe as they do. Their God is not my God.

REMEMBER THE CRUSADES, THE INQUISITION? Whose God was that? It wasn’t mine.

Man uses the name of God, and he has hundreds of names, some accurate and some fake. However, the man who kills in the name of God is not truthful. He lies to destroy.

In America we have the First Amendment in the Constitution...it says ‘freedom of religion’ NOT ‘freedom from religion’. And why would Muslims get a ‘hall pass’ for killing others from operating in their own faith, or lack thereof, when using freedom of speech, also in that First Amendment.


3 posted on 01/08/2015 12:00:33 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

That former comment referred to murders in the USA>

I do want to say that France also has Freedom of Speech, which should cover those murdered in Paris....


4 posted on 01/08/2015 12:02:02 PM PST by Kackikat
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To: Kackikat

I do believe if not for Islam there would not have been Crusades.


7 posted on 01/08/2015 12:13:03 PM PST by strings6459
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To: Kackikat

Yes, Thou Shalt Not Kill and Thou Shalt Not Lie are not muslim commandments.


8 posted on 01/08/2015 12:13:28 PM PST by uncitizen (2015 Here we come!)
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To: Kackikat
"However, the man who kills in the name of God is not truthful. He lies to destroy."

How about Joshua? Do you consider the book of Joshua to be scripture?

9 posted on 01/08/2015 12:14:10 PM PST by circlecity
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To: Kackikat

Before you go off on the Crusades, which was a completely rational, if somewhat delayed, response to the murder and mayhem begun four centuries earlier by the Muslims, learn the facts. Also, the Inquisition was not a monolithic, but compendium, effort that involved many governments along with a much smaller contingent of religious.

Please, learn the facts before going off. You’ll do us all a favor, particularly yourself.


19 posted on 01/08/2015 12:54:18 PM PST by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: Kackikat

The Crusades were launched to roll back the Islamic/Seljuk Turk occupation of then-Christian lands now known as Israel, Jordan and Syria. You got a problem with that?


21 posted on 01/08/2015 1:17:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Kackikat

“No kingdom has shed more blood than the Kingdom of Christ.”
-Montesquieu


22 posted on 01/08/2015 1:25:35 PM PST by oblomov
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To: Kackikat
--- REMEMBER THE CRUSADES, THE INQUISITION? Whose God was that? It wasn’t mine. ---

Do know that the Crusades were a centuries-late reaction to the Mohammedan conquest of most of Christendom, and that the Spanish Inquisition was part of a centuries-long effort to drive the "Moors" out of Spain?

The Myth of the Spanish Inquisition BBC video.

Summary of the video.

23 posted on 01/08/2015 1:33:37 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kackikat
Pretty interesting articles on the Spanish Inquisition by Thomas Madden. It's actually worth a look.

Here's an intriguing insight: when medieval people were suspected (probably by their neighbors) of malicious conjuring or other deviltry, the options were the following (1) trial by your medieval lord, who had a vested intrest in a guilty verdict, since he could penalize you by taking your home and property; (2) mob action, in which you'd likely die rather quickly and badly; or (3) the Inquisition (the word means, simply, "Investigation," neither more nor less) in which the Church had actual, well, investigations.

Bottom line: it was a search for evidence, with witnesses, advocates, cross-examinations, etc.: without a doubt the fairest as well as the most lenient courts in Europe. (Gotta see this in context.) The Inquisition practically invented procedural due process.

Madden: "By the 14th century, the Inquisition represented the best legal practices available. Inquisition officials were university-trained specialists in law and theology. The procedures were similar to those used in secular inquisitions (we call them “inquests” today, but it’s the same word).

"The simple fact is that the medieval Inquisition saved uncounted thousands of innocent (and even not-so-innocent) people who would otherwise have been roasted by secular lords or mob rule."

OK, flame on. I mean, let the discussion continue.

24 posted on 01/08/2015 1:42:20 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.")
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To: Kackikat

I would re-consider your view of God. He rules the nations with justice and righteousness. When the Israelites were to go into the promised land, God specifically told them that they were given the land because the people who lived there were evil. They were even causing their firstborn to pass through the fire, an unthinkable practice. The Israelites were warned that if they followed the ways of those people, the same would happen to them. They did and it did happen.

So. God rules the nations. He had Israel invaded by the Babylonians. Those taken away as slaves survived. Those who fled to Egypt or stayed died.

The fear of the LORD is the beginning of wisdom. The fear of the Lord Jesus is the beginning of wisdom.


34 posted on 01/08/2015 2:55:54 PM PST by huldah1776
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To: Kackikat

God told Joshua to destroy certain cities after he came into the land, those same locations where he did not finish what God told him, where he did not uproot the entrenched spiritual principalities and powers governing that area, are the very ones still today that are the cause of Israels troubles, Gaza and the Golan Heights,

The increased activity of this specific demonic spirit here in this country, is the result of this nation being attacked by it and it now making inroads, no different than how a physical war is fought and land is being claimed by a conquering tyrant,

“For we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, against powers, against the rulers of the darkness of this world, against spiritual wickedness in high places.” Ephesians 6:12


48 posted on 01/08/2015 6:05:47 PM PST by captmar-vell
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To: Kackikat

You might want to do a little reading before you issue a blanket condemnation of the Crusades.
Jes sayin....


55 posted on 01/09/2015 4:16:40 AM PST by Kozak ("It may be dangerous to be America's enemy, but to be America's friend is fatal" Henry Kissinger)
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To: Kackikat
More interesting things that make yhou go "Hmmm..."

Did you know by the way that twice as many Catholics were killed by leftwing atheists during the 3-year Spanish Civil War than “heretics” were killed during the the 350 year Spanish Inquisition?

And that Muslims killed the same number of people in one morning, on 9/11?

Also? Here’s a few more helpful facts about the Crusades.

62 posted on 01/09/2015 9:20:42 AM PST by Mrs. Don-o ("The truth does not change according to our ability to stomach it." -- Flannery O'Connor)
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