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Are Christians and Muslims the Same?
Townhall.com ^ | January 12, 2015 | Matt Barber

Posted on 1/12/2015, 3:30:05 PM by Kaslin

“Offend a Christian and he is obliged to pray for your salvation. Offend a Muslim and he is obliged to murder you.” So observed conservative journalist Robert Stacy McCain in the wake of this week’s horrific Charlie Hebdo massacre in France.

And then we have Islam’s useful idiots – the politically correct set: secular-”progressive” media-types and other left-wing ivory tower elitists bent on bowing in subservient dhimmitude to the “religion of peace.” You know, people like Barack Hussein Obama who, in 2012, demanded from his lofty perch at the U.N.: “The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam.”

I assume that by “the prophet of Islam,” the current leader of the free world was referencing Muhammad, a child-molesting, Christian-and-Jew-beheading slave trader who, for the purposes of selfish ambition and political power alone, plagiarized and perverted the Judeo-Christian Bible to cobble together the Quran – an incoherent owner’s manual to nearly a quarter of the world’s population. Islam is Christianity’s photo-negative, and a cheap knockoff at that. (Mr. President, you went to law school. You should know that truth is an affirmative defense to slander.)

Liberals: You can’t live with ‘em, you can’t slaughter ‘em en masse. Unless, of course, you’re a Muslim terrorist. Then, and as per Hillary Clinton, we must “respect” and “empathize with [your] perspective and point of view.”

Like the battered wife who keeps coming back for more (but didn’t she really bring it on herself?) secular-”progressives” will trip over themselves to rationalize the barbaric acts of those who take seriously the express dictates of this savage cult.

Better still, and as an alternative to excusing the global explosion in Islamic violence, these same “progressives” might choose to exploit the bloodshed for their own socio-political gain. If the Muslim world gives them lemons, they’ll compare apples to oranges. They’ll leverage the Islamic violence to actually slander the one religion they do hate: Christianity.

Even before the bodies of the French fallen had grown cold, former Rolling Stone executive editor and home-lobotomized liberal Eric Bates did just that. In perhaps the dumbest comment ever uttered on liberal television (and there is no short supply to choose from), Bates, who was a guest on the always-dependable MSNBC newsy network, compared the late Rev. Jerry Falwell to the Charlie Hebdo terrorists, suggesting that “religious fundamentalists of all stripes and of nationalities have this penchant to say, we want to be able tell you what you can and can’t portray.”

[See video:]MSNBC: Falwell Suing Hustler same as Charlie Hebdo Massacare

In an email addressing Bates’ remarks, Deryl Edwards, president of Liberty Counsel Action and close friend and confidant to Jerry Falwell for over two decades, said the following:

“To compare Dr. Falwell’s lawsuit against Hustler publisher Larry Flynt to the murderous thugs who gunned down the editors of Charlie Hebdo is mind-boggling. When I heard this comparison I was instantly reminded of the first time I ever spoke with Dr. Falwell. I was a student at Liberty Baptist College (now Liberty University) at the time. As my Christian service that semester I was working the tape ministry, which, in those days, meant duplicating sermon messages onto cassettes that were sent out to radio stations.

“I was there by myself in one of the adjacent buildings to Thomas Road Baptist Church when the door suddenly opened and I heard a booming voice shout out ‘Hello!’ Turning around to see Dr. Falwell, I was more than a little scared and intimidated. But he nicely asked me if my supervisor was around. I said ‘no’ and Dr. Falwell proceeded to ask me to relay a message. Dr. Falwell told me that in a recent sermon he had been critical of pornographers and, specifically, Larry Flynt. He added that Larry had just been shot and was paralyzed, so it wouldn’t be right for that tape to go out right now.

“Even as a college sophomore I right then knew the measure of the man that his enemies would never acknowledge. Dr. Falwell could have easily used this tragedy to attack Flynt and call it God’s judgment or something, but because of his compassion, he refused to verbally attack a man who had been injured. Compare this to the horrific images this week of an Islamic radical calmly and methodically executing the wounded French officer lying on the sidewalk.”

“I don’t recall Dr. Falwell leading or sending a team to assassinate Larry Flynt and the editorial staff of Hustler,” Edwards added. “He took his personal defamation case against Hustler to court, operating under the Rule of Law, and accepted the results, bitter as they may be. To take that further, Dr. Falwell then invested his time and much prayer, until he died, to winning Larry Flynt, whom he loved, to the Lord.”

And there, Mr. Bates, is your contrast/comparison between Christianity and Islam. Dr. Jerry Falwell was a man with more love in his heart and righteousness in his soul than, absent your own coming to King Jesus as your Lord and Savior, you’ll possess in a lifetime.

This is the difference between Christianity and Islam. They are as day and night.

One loves its enemies. The other murders them.

One frees women and children. The other binds them.

One welcomes conversion. The other compels it.

One suffers persecution. The other inflicts it.

One is truth. The other a lie.

One offers eternal salvation. The other, damnation.

Islam is the poison.

Christ is the cure.

[For a glimpse of the true man who was Jerry Falwell, watch the below video of just one interaction between Falwell and Flynt on "Larry King Live" in 1996]

[BEGINS AT 3:27 MARK]

Larry Flynt, Jerry Falwell on Larry King live 1996 interview 4/4


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KEYWORDS: christianity; islam; muslim; religion
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To: rfreedom4u

I would agree on the plagiarized deal...he needed the ‘quote’ to legit his preaching. At some point, several hundred years after his death...the various written versions were becoming a problem....while the group was still just an Arabia thing...someone recalled all copies and had every single Quran burned. A new....single version was written up, and distributed. Original copies around? No....none.

It’s curious....between Muslims, Catholics and Christians....there’s at least fifty primary prophets and another twenty-odd secondary prophets. Some matter....some don’t. Somewhere in his instructions....Mohammad says to the gang....he’s the last one, so there can be NO MORE. It’s pretty much bound up the entire religion....it can’t be evolved, changed, or progressed....it’s stuck in the 7th century way of thinking....with no possibility of another prophet changing the direction of the Islamic crowd.


21 posted on 1/12/2015, 4:06:21 PM by pepsionice
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To: Albion Wilde

I agree - that’s a good quote, I think I’ll share it.


22 posted on 1/12/2015, 4:09:58 PM by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Kaslin
1)Jesus - virgin born
Mohammed - not virgin born

2)Jesus - sinless
Mohammed - sinful

3)Jesus - called "Messiah"
Mohammed - not called "Messiah"

4)Jesus - called "Word of God"
Mohammed - not caled "Word of God"

5)Jesus - performed miracles
Mohammed - did not perform miracles

6)Jesus - ascended bodily into heaven
Mohammed - did not ascend bodily into heaven

23 posted on 1/12/2015, 4:16:07 PM by mjp ((pro-{God, reality, reason, egoism, individualism, natural rights, limited government, capitalism}))
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To: Kaslin


24 posted on 1/12/2015, 4:30:08 PM by Iron Munro ("Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms - Open Up!" "Must be another UPS delivery, honey.")
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To: Kaslin
So I start saying:

I believe in one God, the Father almighty, maker of heaven and earth, of all things visible and invisible. I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the Only Begotten Son of God ...

At this point, Christians are following along, mohammedans are screeching about 'blasphemy' ...

25 posted on 1/12/2015, 4:32:19 PM by NorthMountain (No longer TEA Party ... I'm the TAF Party)
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To: Biggirl
>>The Muslim God is way, way far different then the Christian God, PERIOD.<<

Not according to the Catholic Church. They claim it's the same God they serve.

26 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:02:56 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

Well, they’re wrong.


27 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:04:16 PM by combat_boots (The Lion of Judah cometh. Hallelujah. Gloria Patri, Filio et Spiritui Sancto!)
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To: fuzzylogic
>>I get so tired of hearing “they worship the same God”. From people that claim to be educated and enlightened...of course they’re usually atheists.<<

CCC 841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

28 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:06:16 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: combat_boots

Obviously but that is their official position. If they haven’t the ability to differentiate I’m thinking they don’t know the god they serve.


29 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:08:38 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

I am catholic and you are wrong. We do not claim it is the same


30 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:27:48 PM by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: CynicalBear

Prove it.


31 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:28:35 PM by Kaslin (He needed the ignorant to reelect him, and he got them. Now we all have to pay the consequenses)
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To: Kaslin

See post #28.


32 posted on 1/12/2015, 5:40:59 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear

“usually atheists”

as for CCC 841 - I don’t really care what muslims “profess”...they’ve been lied to. The Christian God and Allah have two very different ethics models.

Islam is nothing but fascism wrapped in a cloak of religion.


33 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:08:43 PM by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: fuzzylogic
>>as for CCC 841 - I don’t really care what muslims “profess”...they’ve been lied to.<<

I agree but that's not what I was getting to. It's the fact that the official position of the Catholic Church is that they do serve the same God. If the Catholic Church doesn't even see the distinction I would be concerned if I were one of it's followers.

34 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:24:34 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Biggirl

Those verses say it pretty well. John 14:6 spells it out pretty well,too,for those who seem to think that all paths lead to God;that all beliefs are true.


35 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:49:25 PM by oldtech
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To: fuzzylogic
Yet I’m obviously Islamophobic!! ...sigh, that’s the other word that is just stupid. It is a made up word that has no quantifiable meaning for the purpose of shutting down discussion.

A phobia is an unfounded or irrational fear. Since any rational person is right to have the well founded fear of those who want to convert you and enslave or kill you if you decline to convert, there is no such thing as Islamophobia.

36 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:49:45 PM by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: CynicalBear
"The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham...

Professing to hold the faith of Abraham is an early example of taqiyya.

37 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:54:24 PM by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: JimRed
>>Professing to hold the faith of Abraham is an early example of taqiyya.<<

Actually I think Muslims really believe that.

38 posted on 1/12/2015, 6:56:12 PM by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Kaslin

Thank-you and God Bless.

You made my day with what you have said. I am Catholic also and it gets me angry when that is cited because it used to “silence” us who are speaking out about the truth of Islam.


39 posted on 1/12/2015, 7:48:33 PM by Biggirl (2014 MIdterms Were BOTH A Giant Wave And Restraining Order)
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To: CynicalBear

ok, understood...I can appreciate the Catholic Church wanting to befriend everyone, although it seems they are lost if they don’t understand it isn’t mutual.


40 posted on 1/12/2015, 7:49:07 PM by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing consequences of poor moral choices among everybody)
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