Watch for this issue to escalate, pitting faith based Americans versus their countrymen, conservative and liberal. This conversation is moving beyond the boundaries of private practice into the government, Local/State/Federal/Military who have for some time mandated vaccinations/shots that they have created. My question to people, are you so sure to put your family's health in the hands of a government committed to population control (where 1/60 children are autistic after vaccinations)?
As a Bible Believing Born Again Christian (not Christian Scientist). I seek medical care and have nothing against the medical practice in general, but we always try to pray first before going to the hospital. We would consider vaccination for a healthy older child, however for the children, we have to protect them from outside toxins. If people don't like it, no problem, we never asked for their opinion and I will continue to use my doctor who feels the same way we do about vaccinations.
But as a parent with many children, some of them grown, none of them have had vaccinations. To this date, all have been perfectly healthy without Government
“Illegal immigration”
precisely
Common sense tells me there are vaccines and then there are vaccines. When I was a kid I had whooping cough at 6 mos, red measles, german measles, mumps on both sides and chicken pox. Both my sisters had everything but whooping cough and so did every kid I knew. My best friend was an only child so when I got something her mother would send her over to sit with me in the sickroom so she would get it and get it over with. We didn’t know what autistic was.
The vaccines we did get and I think they are good ones were polio and small pox. I would add the whooping cough to that list as it is really serious and I was told I could have died from that one.
We are definitely an over vaccinated society.
“”The White House urged parents to listen to the science that supports inoculations””
As well the science that supports global warming/climate change whatever. Right - I’ll get right on that!
I don’t vaccinate my daughter either...we’ve talked about we may not always have the choice, but I’d rather have the real diseases and get forever immunity anyway.
I’m so tired of the fear mongering and group think that on this one thing the government really knows best.
The vaccination rates in Mexico and the US are almost identical thus meaning that the probability that an illegal immigrant child from Mexico has approximately the same chance of having measles as America child.
Not letting a manufactured crisis go to waste in a power grab.
I have very strong feelings that the MMR should be withheld until puberty or later.. to give them an opportunity to be have natural immunity
The un-vaccinated children pose no risk ( or so they say) to those that are vaccinated ... it should remain a parents choice..
Given that this outbreak started at Disneyland, the most likely index case was probably a foreign tourist who entered the country completely legally.
My question to people, are you so sure to put your family's health in the hands of a government committed to population control (where 1/60 children are autistic after vaccinations)?
Ah, the crazy conspiracy theories. So, 1 out of 60 kids are diagnosed with a genetic disease after they are vaccinated? Gee, what about all the kids who are diagnosed with other genetic diseases, like schizophrenia, diabetes, cystic fibrosis (the list goes on)--should we blame vaccines for those, too, since the diagnosis always occurs after vaccination?
The "doctor" that published the Lancet article on the supposed link between the MMR vaccine and autism has been discredited and lost his license to practice medicine. He had a conflict of interest big enough to stop a charging elephant--he had a financial interest in selling a different vaccine, a measles-only vaccine. Plus, he was in cahoots with a lawyer, and was trying to establish "proof" that MMR "causes" autism so that he could rake in the money by providing "scientific" testimony for the lawyer who wanted to file lawsuits on behalf of parents of autistic children.
Measles and the other vaccine-preventable diseases aren't just benign nuisances. They kill. They cause permanent brain damage. One in four of the affected patients in this outbreak has ended up in the hospital because of the measles. Measles is one of the most contagious diseases known. It is contagious before symptoms appear, and remains contagious for several days after the patient becomes symptomatic. Measles is airborne--you can catch it by entering a room hours after someone with measles has been there; you can catch it by walking past the open window of a room occupied by a measles patient. And if you are not vaccinated, you WILL catch measles if exposed.
I have utterly no sympathy for people who fall for anti-vaccine hooey. I have not seen that such people can be reasoned with, or that they exhibit any particular ability to understand scientific or mathematical concepts. I think that vaccine exemptions are way too easy to get. If a person wants to claim a religious exemption, they should have to produce a letter written on the letterhead of their recognized religious establishment, signed by their legally ordained bishop, priest, rabbi, imam, etc. And I don't mean ordained by some fly-by-night mail order place.
It’s simple. I have enough evidence to mistrust the government and their eugenics doctors. It’s settled. They want to do science experiments on my kids.
“Anti-Vaccination” crowd my ass! This outbreak is without a doubt the result of illegal immigrants who have not been immunized. Any other argument is pointless and specious.
That has to be the most self centered, selfish, unChristian, diatribes that I have ever heard....Good grief, this is the 21st century and blood-letting has gone out of style.
Getting measles is a human right!/s
Here in the U.S. most of the “herd” is vaccinated. No problem for the un-vaccinated, until a outbreak.
I am old enough to remember getting the Polio Vaccine in Elementary School.
A Childhood Friend acquired Polio before the Vaccine was available. Lucky for him, he was only left with an obvious limp, but it could have been much worse for him.
If people want to live on a deserted Island, they don’t need to Vaccinate their Kids. Living in Society changes the Rules IMHO.
If I live next door to someone, I can’t justify burning Tires on my land because the smoke will drift over to my Neighbors Property. The same rule applies when it comes to Vaccinations.
Just my $.02, your mileage may vary.
“If people don’t like it, no problem, we never asked for their opinion and I will continue to use my doctor who feels the same way we do about vaccinations.”
But since you posted your point of view, I hope you don’t mind if I give you mine. If you find a doctor who feels the same way as you on vaccinations of children, he’s an idiot, and so is his patient.
Don’t tel me....they playing the race card?
Alarming that anyone in our community who is a critical thinker and makes an effort to be well informed would dismiss ongoing evidence that current vaccination regiment is reckless.
Dozens of vaccine shots inundating a newborn thru two year old’s immunological system..
Sheer insanity.
Of course everyone here recalls:
Gov’t exempts Big Pharma from Vaccination liability.
Vaccination in many instances is derived from faulty logic, incorrectly interpretating all disease data.
Big Pharma allowed SV40 primate cancer virus in Polio vacs
Mercury, aluminum in many vaccines
Deadly HPV vaccination reactions
Hep B for newborns?
Article on new book detailing history of vaccination written by Dr. Humpheries:
http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/01/18/history-vaccination.aspx
Has anyone here heard of a recommendation some parents are following....something about getting vacs over a several day period instead of all in the same day....Laura Ingraham had someone on last week who talked about this....just a thought.
I’m a 50’s baby....had German Measles, 3 spots of chickenpox, and got a Polio shot when I was about 5 years old. Also got small pox vac at some point. Never got the Mumps. I believe SOME vacs are good, but these days TOO MANY are given especially to young children in a short period of time.
What I think exposes the fallacy of vaccines is these people are so certain tellign us the vaccines will protect us, but that it isn’t enough that THEY get the vaccine, WE have to have it for THEIR safety.
It is nuts. The whole herd immunity thing is bs. If the vaccine works and you have it, it makes no difference to you whether I get it or not.
Let’s talk about the un-naturalness of injecting things deep into the body, bypassing the multiple layers of defense the body has, including sweat, the skin, localized attempts to deal with it via the lymphatic system. Fact is what they are doing is abnormal and bypassing many layers of defense.
Let’s talk about how nuts these people get about their kids and exposure to mercury. They have no problem with a doctor shooting vaccines with thimerosal in them, which is 50% mercury.
Lets talk about the fact that the vaccine schedule has exploded the last 40 years. from maybe 9 shots through grade school to 40-50 shots - being conservative - with many being done before the child is even 2 years old. But all that mercury and all the combined vaccines have nothing to do with the problems we see in kids at a record rate. They ignore the big pharma reason right in front of their faces because it’s a multibillion dollar a year moneymaker for vaccine makers. So much so they even beg media to tell people to get flu shots even if they screw up guessing about most of the strains. Can’t piss away that year’s profits.