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ISIS 'bulldozed' ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud: Iraq govt
Al-Arabiya ^ | 3-5-2015 | Al-Arabiya

Posted on 03/05/2015 1:25:41 PM PST by tcrlaf

The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) group began bulldozing the ancient Assyrian city of Nimrud in Iraq on Thursday, the government said, in the jihadists' latest attack on the country's historical heritage.

ISIS "assaulted the historic city of Nimrud and bulldozed it with heavy vehicles," the tourism and antiquities ministry said on an official Facebook page.

An Iraqi antiquities official confirmed the news, saying the destruction began after noon prayers on Thursday and that trucks that may have been used to haul away artefacts had also been spotted at the site.

"Until now, we do not know to what extent it was destroyed," the official said on condition of anonymity.

Nimrud, which was founded in the 13th century BC, lies on the Tigris around 30 kilometres (18 miles) southeast of Mosul, Iraq's second city and the main hub of IS in the country

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KEYWORDS: albaghdadi; assyria; assyrianempire; assyrians; godsgravesglyphs; idolatry; iraq; isis; jihad; jihadi; jihadis; letshavejerusalem; nimrod; nimrud
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To: RginTN

Yeah, that’s it. All those Arabic linguists at NSA and forward deployed are concentrating their skills on phone calls between Sioux Falls and Missoula.


21 posted on 03/05/2015 3:16:08 PM PST by Ax
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To: P.O.E.

Pic1: This is your civilization.

Pic2: This is your civilization on Islam.

Too bad I’m terrible at meme-picture generation.


22 posted on 03/05/2015 3:59:25 PM PST by Kommodor (Terrorist, Journalist or Democrat? I can't tell the difference.)
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To: headstamp 2
"Remember the press screaming with the museum sacking during Bush’s term? Nothing but crickets now."

I guess that the accurate preservation of a historical record meant nothing to them after all.
23 posted on 03/05/2015 10:23:10 PM PST by clearcarbon
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To: tcrlaf

The “JV” is just doing what the “Varsity” did to everything cultural from 620AD to 730 AD. When you read about some Greek, Roman, or Egyptian statue, monument, play, poem, scientific work or mechanism - all now lost or destroyed - remember the “Varsity” under Mohammad and his Disciples ... The “JV” seeks to do no less.

The Varsity’s Edict:
If it is in the koran then it is superfluous, so destroy it. If it is not in the koran, it is wrong, so destroy it.


24 posted on 03/06/2015 6:02:07 AM PST by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now it is your turn ...)
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To: BenLurkin; StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; decimon; 1010RD; 21twelve; 24Karet; ...
Thanks BenLurkin.

25 posted on 03/06/2015 10:01:41 AM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Zhang Fei
What a bunch of nimrods.

Argh. Beat me to it. You've got to get up pretty early on FreeRepublic these days to be the first one in with a funny play on words.

26 posted on 03/06/2015 10:04:23 AM PST by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: tcrlaf

This is a jobs plan for future archeologists. (sarc/off)


27 posted on 03/06/2015 10:07:29 AM PST by afraidfortherepublic
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To: clearcarbon; headstamp 2; BenLurkin; SunkenCiv; blam; All

I think what really got the press going was the very visual presentation of Rumsfeld saying, and I remember seeing it and as an archaeology buff being incensed myself, “What’s a few broken pots,” regarding museum destruction or the like.

The Bush administration did a great job of successfully conducting the war, but had made no provisions for preserving or protecting world heritage items or sites. They had been repeatedly warned and urged by archaeology professionals that this was important to do. We owned that war and had the power to do something about that. ISIL/Daesh has possession of some important historic territory. Bombing into the stone age might kill ISIL/Daesh, but also can destroy as much or more than they have already destroyed. A really hard choice.


28 posted on 03/06/2015 12:12:01 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: tcrlaf

I am outraged by the actions of these savages.

I’d personally love to behead all of them.


29 posted on 03/06/2015 12:13:33 PM PST by onyx
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To: gleeaikin

Uh, the looting of the museum was very minor; the really high-end stuff that trumpeted as having been boosted while US troops and the President were supposedly high-fiving turned out to have been locked up by museum staff at the first sign of trouble, and that where it remained.


30 posted on 03/06/2015 12:56:39 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: tcrlaf

Animals.


31 posted on 03/06/2015 1:28:45 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: SunkenCiv

Arabs and Muslims appeared on the world scene in 630 A.D., when the armies of Muhammad began their conquest of the Middle East. We should be very clear that this was a military conquest, not a missionary enterprise, and through the use of force, authorized by a declaration of a Jihad against infidels, Arabs/Muslims were able to forcibly convert and assimilate non-Arabs and non-Mulsims into their fold. Very few indigenous communities of the Middle East survived this -- primarily Assyrians, Jews, Armenians and Coptics (of Egypt).

Having conquered the Middle East, Arabs placed these communities under a Dhimmi (see the book Dhimmi, by Bat Ye'Or) system of governance, where the communities were allowed to rule themselves as religious minorities (Christians, Jews and Zoroastrian). These communities had to pay a tax (called a Jizzya in Arabic) that was, in effect, a penalty for being non-Muslim, and that was typically 80% in times of tolerance and up to 150% in times of oppression. This tax forced many of these communities to convert to Islam, as it was designed to do.

You state, "its architects designed buildings that defied gravity." I am not sure what you are referring to, but if you are referring to domes and arches, the fundamental architectural breakthrough of using a parabolic shape instead of a spherical shape for these structures was made by the Assyrians more than 1300 years earlier, as evidenced by their archaeological record.

You state, "its mathematicians created the algebra and algorithms that would enable the building of computers, and the creation of encryption." The fundamental basis of modern mathematics had been laid down not hundreds but thousands of years before by Assyrians and Babylonians, who already knew of the concept of zero, of the Pythagorean Theorem, and of many, many other developments expropriated by Arabs/Muslims (see History of Babylonian Mathematics, Neugebauer).

You state, "its doctors examined the human body, and found new cures for disease." The overwhelming majority of these doctors (99%) were Assyrians. In the fourth, fifth, and sixth centuries Assyrians began a systematic translation of the Greek body of knowledge into Assyrian. At first they concentrated on the religious works but then quickly moved to science, philosophy and medicine. Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, Galen, and many others were translated into Assyrian, and from Assyrian into Arabic. It is these Arabic translations which the Moors brought with them into Spain, and which the Spaniards translated into Latin and spread throughout Europe, thus igniting the European Renaissance.

By the sixth century A.D., Assyrians had begun exporting back to Byzantia their own works on science, philosophy and medicine. In the field of medicine, the Bakhteesho Assyrian family produced nine generations of physicians, and founded the great medical school at Gundeshapur (Iran). Also in the area of medicine, (the Assyrian) Hunayn ibn-Ishaq's textbook on ophthalmology, written in 950 A.D., remained the authoritative source on the subject until 1800 A.D.

In the area of philosophy, the Assyrian philosopher Job of Edessa developed a physical theory of the universe, in the Assyrian language, that rivaled Aristotle's theory, and that sought to replace matter with forces (a theory that anticipated some ideas in quantum mechanics, such as the spontaneous creation and destruction of matter that occurs in the quantum vacuum).

One of the greatest Assyrian achievements of the fourth century was the founding of the first university in the world, the School of Nisibis, which had three departments, theology, philosophy and medicine, and which became a magnet and center of intellectual development in the Middle East. The statutes of the School of Nisibis, which have been preserved, later became the model upon which the first Italian university was based (see The Statutes of the School of Nisibis, by Arthur Voobus).

When Arabs and Islam swept through the Middle East in 630 A.D., they encountered 600 years of Assyrian Christian civilization, with a rich heritage, a highly developed culture, and advanced learning institutions. It is this civilization that became the foundation of the Arab civilization.

You state, "Its astronomers looked into the heavens, named the stars, and paved the way for space travel and exploration." This is a bit melodramatic. In fact, the astronomers you refer to were not Arabs but Chaldeans and Babylonians (of present day south-Iraq), who for millennia were known as astronomers and astrologers, and who were forcibly Arabized and Islamized -- so rapidly that by 750 A.D. they had disappeared completely.

You state, "its writers created thousands of stories. Stories of courage, romance and magic. Its poets wrote of love, when others before them were too steeped in fear to think of such things." There is very little literature in the Arabic language that comes from this period you are referring to (the Koran is the only significant piece of literature), whereas the literary output of the Assyrians and Jews was vast. The third largest corpus of Christian writing, after Latin and Greek, is by the Assyrians in the Assyrian language (also called Syriac; see here.)

You state, "when other nations were afraid of ideas, this civilization thrived on them, and kept them alive. When censors threatened to wipe out knowledge from past civilizations, this civilization kept the knowledge alive, and passed it on to others." This is a very important issue you raise, and it goes to the heart of the matter of what Arab/Islamic civilization represents. I reviewed a book titled How Greek Science Passed to the Arabs, in which the author lists the significant translators and interpreters of Greek science. Of the 22 scholars listed, 20 were Assyrians, 1 was Persian and 1 an Arab. I state at the end of my review: "The salient conclusion which can be drawn from O'Leary's book is that Assyrians played a significant role in the shaping of the Islamic world via the Greek corpus of knowledge. If this is so, one must then ask the question, what happened to the Christian communities which made them lose this great intellectual enterprise which they had established. One can ask this same question of the Arabs. Sadly, O'Leary's book does not answer this question, and we must look elsewhere for the answer." I did not answer this question I posed in the review because it was not the place to answer it, but the answer is very clear, the Christian Assyrian community was drained of its population through forced conversion to Islam (by the Jizzya), and once the community had dwindled below a critical threshold, it ceased producing the scholars that were the intellectual driving force of the Islamic civilization, and that is when the so called "Golden Age of Islam" came to an end (about 850 A.D.).

Islam the religion itself was significantly molded by Assyrians and Jews (see Nestorian Influence on Islam and Hagarism: the Making of the Islamic World).

Arab/Islamic civilization is not a progressive force, it is a regressive force; it does not give impetus, it retards. The great civilization you describe was not an Arab/Muslim accomplishment, it was an Assyrian accomplishment that Arabs expropriated and subsequently lost when they drained, through the forced conversion of Assyrians to Islam, the source of the intellectual vitality that propelled it. What other Arab/Muslim civilization has risen since? What other Arab/Muslim successes can we cite?

You state, "and perhaps we can learn a lesson from his [Suleiman] example: It was leadership based on meritocracy, not inheritance. It was leadership that harnessed the full capabilities of a very diverse population that included Christianity, Islamic, and Jewish traditions." In fact, the Ottomans were extremely oppressive to non-Muslims. For example, young Christian boys were forcefully taken from their families, usually at the age of 8-10, and inducted into the Janissaries, (yeniceri in Turkish) where they were Islamized and made to fight for the Ottoman state. What literary, artistic or scientific achievements of the Ottomans can we point to? We can, on the other hand, point to the genocide of 750,000 Assyrians, 1.5 million Armenians and 400,000 Greeks in World War One by the Kemalist "Young Turk" government. This is the true face of Islam.

Arabs/Muslims are engaged in an explicit campaign of destruction and expropriation of cultures and communities, identities and ideas. Wherever Arab/Muslim civilization encounters a non-Arab/Muslim one, it attempts to destroy it (as the Buddhist statues in Afghanistan were destroyed, as Persepolis was destroyed by the Ayotollah Khomeini). This is a pattern that has been recurring since the advent of Islam, 1400 years ago, and is amply substantiated by the historical record. If the "foreign" culture cannot be destroyed, then it is expropriated, and revisionist historians claim that it is and was Arab, as is the case of most of the Arab "accomplishments" you cited in your speech. For example, Arab history texts in the Middle East teach that Assyrians were Arabs, a fact that no reputable scholar would assert, and that no living Assyrian would accept. Assyrians first settled Nineveh, one of the major Assyrian cities, in 5000 B.C., which is 5630 years before Arabs came into that area. Even the word 'Arab' is an Assyrian word, meaning "Westerner" (the first written reference to Arabs was by the Assyrian King Sennacherib, 800 B.C., in which he tells of conquering the "ma'rabayeh"

-- Westerners. See The Might That Was Assyria, by H. W. F. Saggs).

WHAT ARAB CIVILIZATION? (EXCERPT)


32 posted on 03/06/2015 1:40:21 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv; All

Yes, I was aware of their efforts to save their treasures, and was very happy to hear it, but I understand there has been a lot of looting and black market selling from archaeological sites for which we had not made adequate protection plans despite the pleas of archaeologists. I guess in the long run that is a blessing in disguise since ISIL/Daesh seems to be trying to destroy everything they can find.


33 posted on 03/06/2015 2:44:18 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

Art and Empire: Treasures from Assyria in the British Museum

http://www.atour.com/forums/arts/49.html


34 posted on 03/06/2015 3:26:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: gleeaikin

Relief from Nineveh in British Museum

35 posted on 03/06/2015 3:35:27 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: SunkenCiv
Oriental Institute Statement on Cultural Destruction in Iraq March 4, 2015

The deliberate vandalism and destruction of heritage from Mosul’s Library, the Mosul Museum, and the archaeological site of Nineveh at Mosul constitute a moral and cultural outrage that adds to the growing spiral of despair from both Iraq and Syria concerning heritage, looting, and damage due to armed conflict. Without the past, we cannot understand our present, and without understanding our present, we cannot plan for our future. We hope that whatever remnants of this shattered heritage still surviving in Mosul may be salvaged and restored, but it is already clear that so much has been irreparably destroyed or looted. Mosul’s heritage is an important part of Mesopotamian civilization and the heritage of the entire world.

The Oriental Institute of the University of Chicago is a leading institution for the study of the ancient Middle East that focuses on research, heritage and knowledge preservation, and public education. Iconic artifacts from Iraq on display in the Museum of the Oriental Institute are accessible today for all to see. Many are counterparts to objects on display in the Iraq Museum, Baghdad, that come from the Oriental Institute’s excavations in Iraq. The Oriental Institute’s colossal human-headed winged bull, or Lamassu, was excavated from Khorsabad, ancient Dur Sharrukin, several miles north of Mosul. Carved in the late eighth century BC during the reign of King Sargon II (721–705 BC), it is one of the finest examples of Assyrian sculptor’s art in the world. At the site of Nineveh and in the Mosul Museum, similar sculptures have been smashed and mutilated in minutes by the Islamic State. The Oriental Institute condemns this callous eradication of the cultural treasures of Mesopotamia. We extend our deepest sympathies to the families of the people who are suffering in northern Iraq and Syria, and offer our support to the archaeological and heritage community of Iraq to help document, salvage, and restore the heritage of Mosul and other provinces of Iraq affected by looting and destruction.

We support the joint statement published by the Association of Art Museum Directors (AAMD), the Archaeological Institute of America (AIA), and the Society for American Archaeology (SAA), as well as statements from the American Schools of Oriental Research (ASOR) and The American Academic Research Institute in Iraq (TAARII).

SOURCE


36 posted on 03/06/2015 4:03:02 PM PST by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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To: headstamp 2
Remember the press screaming with the museum sacking during Bush’s term?

Nothing but crickets now.

My very first thought.

What a difference 12 years makes.

37 posted on 03/06/2015 4:10:03 PM PST by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: BenLurkin

In their defense, they’re followers of a mass-murdering pedophile from the early Middle Ages, and have been inbreeding for centuries. Wait, what? ;’)


38 posted on 03/07/2015 4:06:40 PM PST by SunkenCiv (What do we want? REGIME CHANGE! When do we want it? NOW!)
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To: Fred Nerks

But Obama refused to leave US troops in place in Iraq and he refused to intervene. So that’s the Obama legacy. When I labeled Obama a pyschopomp, I meant that in every sense of the word. And that he is. The destruction of history in Mosul is yet another proof of Obama’s huge failure as a Nobel prize winner.They should make him return it.


39 posted on 03/08/2015 8:37:25 PM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7

But meanwhile he’s playing both ends against the middle, the Saudi’s won’t attack Israel, (far from it) but the Iranians will, then his fanatical sunni’s will need to annihilate the shia, to establish a sunni caliphate, and once the dust and sand has settled over a couple of hundred million dead; then there will be peace.
So he won it fair and square and he can keep it, don’t you think?
The Nobel Committee, after all, didn’t give it to him for anything he had accomplished. They gave it to him in advance.


40 posted on 03/08/2015 9:19:46 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (Fair Dinkum!)
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