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US Supreme Court Throws Out Lower Court Decision On Obamacare Contraception Rules
CNBC ^ | March 9, 2015 | CNBC

Posted on 03/09/2015 6:38:15 AM PDT by mn-bush-man

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To: mn-bush-man

Maybe it’s just a feint to demonstrate the Court’s independence and impartiality before it releases its decision to permit the subsidies to Federally-created exchanges, in contravention of the laws actual words.


41 posted on 03/09/2015 7:50:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze (If a border fence isn't effective, why is there a border fence around the White House?)
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To: tanknetter

I think what you’re thinking of with schoolchildren and liberals/progressives are two different things. In the one case, children cannot be taught. In the other, you can rub their face in it, destroy them with all reason, logic and force you want and they will still stand back and defiantly and obliviously keep on doing what they’re doing.

In short, it’s water off a duck’s back to them. You don’t ‘teach’ them; you slap them upside the head until it actually hurts to the point they cannot react so.


42 posted on 03/09/2015 7:52:32 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

cannot be taught should be “can be taught”.....typo


43 posted on 03/09/2015 7:53:45 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: mn-bush-man
The Supreme Court on Monday threw out an appeals court decision that went against the University of Notre Dame over its religious objection to the Obamacare health law's contraception requirement.

The justices asked the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals to reconsider its decision in favor of the Obama administration in light of the June 2014 Supreme Court ruling that allowed closely held corporations to seek exemptions from the provision.

Maybe this is a good thing throwing the lower court decision out. Maybe, I think it looks like a good thing what the SCOTUS did.

44 posted on 03/09/2015 8:12:50 AM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

nominated by Obama...and confirmed by Republicans.


45 posted on 03/09/2015 8:16:36 AM PDT by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: mn-bush-man

FROM NPR ( The one or taxes pay for ):

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2015/03/09/391862270/supreme-court-revives-notre-dame-s-appeal-in-contraception-case

The U.S. Supreme Court has vacated an appeals court ruling that went against the University of Notre Dame, in a case that revolves around the Affordable Care Act’s requirement that employers should pay for contraception as part of women’s health insurance.

Last February, the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in Chicago backed a lower court’s ruling that dismissed Notre Dame’s request for an injunction against the rule.

But on Monday, the Supreme Court said it’s sending the case back to the 7th Circuit, “for further consideration in light of Burwell v. Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc.” — last summer’s Supreme Court ruling in favor of Hobby Lobby.

The Roman Catholic school had sued the Obama administration over the requirement, saying a compromise that was meant to put insurance companies instead of religious institutions in charge of contraception coverage was not acceptable.

Last June’s Supreme Court decision established that some privately held companies “can opt out of the Affordable Care Act’s provisions for no-cost prescription contraception in most health insurance if they have religious objections,” as we reported.

“The university has argued the Affordable Care Act’s compromise arrangement... is inadequate,” The Wall Street Journal reported last year, “because it still forces the university to be complicit in something it believes to be immoral.”


46 posted on 03/09/2015 8:18:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: MrB

I think this ruling is good news:

U.S. Supreme Court has thrown out an appeals court decision on Obamacare’s contraception mandate that had favored the White House.


47 posted on 03/09/2015 8:43:05 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: Gaffer
Will be waiting for more information. But I have a deep queasy feeling that the Supreme Court has sided with Obama on this, and thus, signals its intention to side with him on the state subsidies issue before it. In this respect, it really would be the final nail in the coffin of an open, honest, and honorable Supreme Court devoid of bias and a deep, abiding reverence for our Constitution. It is the functional equivalent of it falling prostrate before the Devil.

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Is Obama's lawyer telling the Supreme Court the following: "If not a single one of the 50 states opened up a marketplace, the ObamaCare law states very clearly that anybody in those 50 states could still get a tax subsidy by enrolling in the federal government exchange.

1. If the law clearly states---according to Obama's lawyer---that the federal government exchange tax subsidy would be open to anyone who lives in a state without its own exchange, then why would any state go to the trouble of opening up its own exchange, when it could easily pass the cost and headaches to the federal government?

2. It makes no sense to me for any state to open up its own exchange, if the federal government, according to Obama's lawyer, would automatically give tax subsidies to ALL applications to its own federal exchange, if a state did NOT have its own exchange.

3. As I see it, the only way that the states would even consider opening its own exchange is if the federal government somehow put tremendous pressure on the states to do so.

4. And the key pressure would be this: Enrollees could ONLY receive tax subsidies if their state opened up their own exchanges.

5. The Supreme Court Justices should have asked Obama's lawyer this question: "Are you telling us that if not a single state opened up an exchange/marketplace, the ObamaCare law states that the federal government exchange would automatically give tax subsidies to all enrollees n the federal exchange from all 50 states?"

6. Protecting itself: I think that the authors of the ObamaCare law tried to protect the federal government from the possibility that not a single state would open up its own exchange, and, at the same time, the authors were protecting the federal government from the headache of trying to deal with the flood of enrollees from each state by emphasizing in the law that enrollees could get tax subsidies only if they joined their state's exchange.

48 posted on 03/09/2015 9:16:48 AM PDT by john mirse
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To: mn-bush-man

This is very good news for Notre Dame and all of us.

The 7th District Court had ruled against them when Notre Dame were, in essence, arguing that they should also be able to avoid the Obama Care demand that they support abortion.

Now the Supreme Court vacated that ruling and sent it back. IMHO, the Supreme Court is saying that Notre Dame should have religious freedom protection similar to the ruling for Hobby Lobby.

It is a shame and travesty that such obvious religious freedom should have to go to the SCOTUS for a decision. Similarly, that the wanton killing of unborn children should have ever been legalized in the first place.

God in Heaven will not forever sit back and allow such depravity to consider amongst a people so blessed as this nation.


49 posted on 03/09/2015 9:17:10 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Semper Fidelis - Molon Labe - Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: john mirse

Oh I am confident the framers of this obscene law had some devious intention in its complicated makeup. But in the end, it rests with the Supreme Court to judge it (again).

The administration and Democrats are taking the basic tack of calling this oversight a “procedural error” - the equivalent of an obvious scrivener’s error.

Never have so many do-gooders, invested ideologues, PhDs (horseshit piled higher and deeper) and government hangers on tried so hard to give a left-leaning court a semblance of objectivity.


50 posted on 03/09/2015 9:25:57 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: demshateGod

They were confirmed along party line votes. Pillard’s nomination was blocked which prompted Reid to go for the nuclear option.


51 posted on 03/09/2015 12:38:50 PM PDT by Republican Wildcat
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To: Blood of Tyrants

There was a post on another thread showing a woman (Sandra Fluke I believe). In big letters, it said “My Body, My Choice”. Underneath, in small letters, it said “Your money”.


52 posted on 03/09/2015 1:47:10 PM PDT by fhayek
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To: Blood of Tyrants

They want someone else to give the gold, but they want to make the rules.

Someone should tell them this is not the golden rule.


53 posted on 03/09/2015 1:49:24 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: fhayek

Again, the message from the left is “Shut up and pay!”


54 posted on 03/09/2015 1:49:32 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (True followers of Christ emulate Christ. True followers of Mohammed emulate Mohammed.)
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To: fhayek

LOL


55 posted on 03/09/2015 1:49:52 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
I *think* this was a ruling from a 3 judge panel of the D.C. Circuit, from November of 2014.

No, this was a reversal of a Seventh Circuit decision (written by Judge Posner, a Reagan appointee).

56 posted on 03/09/2015 4:48:12 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

SCOTUS.


57 posted on 03/09/2015 4:51:36 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian; Perdogg; JDW11235; Clairity; Spacetrucker; Art in Idaho; GregNH; Salvation; ...

FReepmail me to subscribe to or unsubscribe from the SCOTUS ping list.

58 posted on 03/09/2015 6:02:04 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: mn-bush-man; Gaffer; All

Thank you for this detailed explanation. Some questions: Does Notra Dame receive any government funding, or is it all private/Catholic? What percentage of the students are NOT catholic? Given the strong wish to avoid abortion, why not encourage contraception; do they really expect that students away from home for the first time are always going to exercise good judgement/restraint regarding sexual activity?


59 posted on 03/10/2015 12:50:55 AM PDT by gleeaikin
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To: gleeaikin

I guess you could say they do in a fashion. I’m sure lots of their students are on Pell Grants that could be held up for hostage.


60 posted on 03/10/2015 1:15:40 AM PDT by Gaffer
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