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The Atlantic pushes killing for organs
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| 3/24/15
| Wesley J. Smith
Posted on 03/25/2015 8:28:58 AM PDT by wagglebee
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If medical guidelines could be revised to let people facing imminent death donate vital organs under general anesthesia, we could provide patients and families a middle grounda way of avoiding futile medical care, while also honoring life by preventing the deaths of other critically ill people. And then Obama's death panels could proceed to define "imminent death" however they choose.
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03/25/2015 8:28:58 AM PDT
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wagglebee
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Pro-Life Ping
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:29:30 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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03/25/2015 8:29:51 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:32:04 AM PDT
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wagglebee
("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
To: wagglebee
OK,so I’m dying in the hospital of a terminal disease.Is there some poison that I could ingest at the last moment that would render my organs useless?
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:32:36 AM PDT
by
Farmer Dean
(stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
To: wagglebee
I am currently listed as an organ donor with my state’s DMV. That would change if the law changed to allow someone to decide I had lived long enough. Only God gets to make that decision. If that change in the law came about, I would reverse my declaration. Also, if I knew I would be killed so that my organs could be harvested, I would probably think of some way to ensure my body was too well decomposed after death to make that possible.
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:34:54 AM PDT
by
Pecos
(What we obtain too cheap, we esteem too lightly.)
To: wagglebee
Why not initiate a here-and-now trial program with the editorial staff of the Atlantic as donors?
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:36:31 AM PDT
by
Arm_Bears
(Rope. Tree. Politician. Some assembly required.)
To: wagglebee
The science fiction author Larry Niven extrapolated from today’s blood transfusions and organ transplants to a future where longevity is attained by advanced transplant technology. This created such a demand that the society had the death penalty for many, many things (income tax evasion, excess jaywalking) to meet the needs of the 250 year olds.
I can see that happening, once people have the choice of living another 80 years.
I’m also reminded that The Holocaust began as a medical program administered by doctors.
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:36:44 AM PDT
by
DBrow
To: wagglebee
The key here is to state to their face:
“oh, So you want a Master Race?”
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:36:57 AM PDT
by
G Larry
(Obama Hates America, Israel, Capitalism, Freedom, and Christianity.)
To: wagglebee
In practice, though, a donors doctors have little connection to those involved with organ recovery, precisely so as to avoid any conflict of interest. We cant imagine a scenario in which doctors would give a patient inferior care so that her organs could be procured.
I can. In fact, it happens already with medical futility and the push toward health care rationing.******************************
I would never agree to donate my organs, or allow anyone to harvest the organs of a loved one for this very reason.
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:41:18 AM PDT
by
trisham
(Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
To: wagglebee
The Atlantic has an article advocating that dying patients be killed for their organsAs a Christian in ethics and a Lockean in politics, I would strongly oppose any killing for the sake of harvesting body parts.
OTOH, as a sinful man and a church organist, I would be strongly tempted to do away with this one person if the result were that I could have her pipe organ...
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posted on
03/25/2015 8:43:44 AM PDT
by
chajin
("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
To: wagglebee
Talk show host Mike Gallagher would love this idea. He believes Americans have no right to control their own bodily organs and everyone should be forced to be an organ donor.
To: DBrow
The science fiction author Larry Niven extrapolated from todays blood transfusions and organ transplants to a future where longevity is attained by advanced transplant technology. This created such a demand that the society had the death penalty for many, many things (income tax evasion, excess jaywalking) This might be the story that stopped me from reading any more Sci-Fi. The hero is shown escaping out of his cell and rampaging down the corridors, breaking tall glass columns of fluids containing organs. The hero knows he is going to die and figures he'll do as much damage as possible to The System. I remember the end, when Niven reveals the guy was in prison because the death penalty was lowered to the extremes you mention.
I used to be an avid reader of this genre, but it seemed that right after I read this story (ca late '60s), a news article came out reporting that China was now starting to use organs from executed criminals. That did it for me - too much Sci-Fi I had read was coming true and the stories had to reach much further and went out of my area of interest.
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posted on
03/25/2015 9:00:04 AM PDT
by
Oatka
(This is America. Assimilate or evaporate.)
To: Oatka
If we took the organs from death row inmates as their restitution, the program would fund itself as states would save millions housing the scum.
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posted on
03/25/2015 9:07:38 AM PDT
by
EQAndyBuzz
(Islam is the military wing of the Communist party.)
To: wagglebee
Studies show liberals have the best organs. Do your organ shopping in leftist enclaves.
To: Pecos
I took myself off the organ donor permission the first time it hit the papers that one doctor didn't mind helping death along for the organs...But if one lives as long as I have so far 76 I have copd, lungs not useful, I have unstable angina so that leaves my heart useless, Skin has severe psoriasis, so that makes my skin not to useful, Have IBS, anything related to the GI system not usable, only organ that is healthy is liver, I am taking care of that with my favorite drink, namely bourbon. Don't know what else could possibly be of use....Use up your organs yourself, thats what they were for, namely your own use...too easy for donors to leave this world with some doctors help...they think they are god, but they are not God.
To: EQAndyBuzz
“If we took the organs from death row inmates as their restitution,”
Remember the Arkansas prison contaminated blood scandal? Not the best source for transplant material or blood. hep-C, AIDS, VD...
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posted on
03/25/2015 9:21:49 AM PDT
by
DBrow
To: goat granny
skin and bone are taken and sold.
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posted on
03/25/2015 9:24:02 AM PDT
by
Chickensoup
(Leftist totalitarian fascism is on the move.)
To: Pecos
I am not listed as an organ donor for that exact reason. Progressives will not wait for the law to change before they start harvesting organs. They’ll just attempt to cover it up.
Anyway, I’m old enough that I doubt my organs would outlive me by very much, regardless of the casue of death :)
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03/25/2015 9:36:51 AM PDT
by
chesley
(Obama -- Muslim or dhimmi? And does it matter?)
To: wagglebee
Funny how they don’t talk about using organs from executed prisoners.
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posted on
03/25/2015 9:48:47 AM PDT
by
Little Ray
(How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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