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Debtors prisons are an essential tool of our new public policy.
Dalrock ^ | April 26 2015 | Dalrock

Posted on 04/27/2015 8:32:38 AM PDT by DarkSavant

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To: DiogenesLamp

I read in a German paper that researchers there estimate that 10% of all children born in wedlock are not the husband’s children.


21 posted on 04/27/2015 10:24:36 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Vigilanteman

Are you questioning the notion that the rich and middle classes have an obligation to pay for the sexual satisfaction of the poor? /s


22 posted on 04/27/2015 10:25:42 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Nice thoughts to which I cannot respond further without consulting the affected parties.


23 posted on 04/27/2015 10:28:25 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The environment is too complex and too important to manage by government regulation.)
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To: DarkSavant

Yes, child support and custody laws are broken. This is why I don’t have any children. I’ve seen how kids are used by the mothers to control and blackmail the fathers. Not just divorced fathers but fathers that are in the home. Call me weak, but I don’t think I would have the restraint that I have seen from some abused men.

Take my brother, for instance. Great father, great provider. Didn’t get married till later in life. Mother either. They had 3 kids together. She was 35 for the first one and 41 for the last. After the last one was about 3 she decided she wanted to screw her boss. Didn’t really care who found out. Tore the household and kids apart. What could my brother do? Not one damn thing.

But #3 I can REALLY relate to: Kerr tells us this wasn’t his wife’s first assault against him:

She grabbed me and ripped my shirt. Her nails cut my face. I bled. I tried to walk out the door. She blocked the door. I was a gym-every-day, active duty Marine, fearing someone a fraction of my size. If she had a penis I’d have a dozen ways to put her on the ground. Instead, I was left to sneak out a bedroom window and spend the night in a parking lot.

This is a well known pattern, as Web MD notes in their article Help for Battered Men**:

“We tell men if they have to be in an argument, do it in a room with two doors so they can leave; a lot of times a woman will block the door, the man will try to move her, and that will be enough for him to get arrested.”

In the past our family structure was designed to keep families intact. Our new family structure is designed primarily to break them apart.

I’ve slept in the woods in the front seat of a car more times than I can count. Had a shotgun pulled on me. Been threatened with jail for not doing what I was told. Yep, I’ve been there.

I’d say “never again” but unless you never contact a woman with only a single door then it sure can happen again. And hell, that doesn’t really matter. She can just say you threatened her and you are going to jail.


24 posted on 04/27/2015 10:30:34 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: Carry_Okie

I understand.


25 posted on 04/27/2015 10:31:05 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Chickensoup
I am convinced that raising a child in an environment of sexual depravity produces heritable epigenetic traits

Haven't seen anyone make this point before, but I suspect you're right.

The psychological effects of divorce and a bad upbringing are well noted, but I wonder how many of those are (as you suggest) caused or exacerbated by the organic effects the environment leaves on the brain.

26 posted on 04/27/2015 10:34:28 AM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: pierrem15

“I read in a German paper that researchers there estimate that 10% of all children born in wedlock are not the husband’s children.”


Momma’s baby, Daddy’s maybe....

I guess it must be true in Germany too.


27 posted on 04/27/2015 10:48:18 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: DarkSavant

I had a bat guano crazy X; she and her sisters would constantly call the police on me during the divorce always “claiming” the were in fear (never actually making accusations). Its only due to her substance abuse and history that the LEO’s sided with me. My kids live with me in our original home but at a heavy cost of having to absorb all the debt alone and I don’t receive child support. I’m fine with no child support as it does not entitle her to access to my kids (who really don’t like her all that much) and beyond which if she ever tries to go back to court for more alimony I can always pull child support out to augment costs.
But yeah, reading this thread and other’s stories, I can relate to that special kind of stress divorcing fathers have to live with. I finally put up a security system in my home as I was completely stressed out with anxiety waiting for another visit from the local PD for God only knew what.


28 posted on 04/27/2015 10:51:25 AM PDT by Ghost of SVR4 (So many are so hopelessly dependent on the government that they will fight to protect it.)
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To: pierrem15

No, I’m suggesting it should be limited to one blow-up life sized sex doll (or vibrator) per year costing under $35. They can pass them out with the ObamaPhones. :->


29 posted on 04/27/2015 11:05:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Vigilanteman

In some related news. Talk about airing dirty laundry:

“Pamela Anderson’s ex Rick Salomon calls her a ‘serial baby killer’ in emails included with her restraining order filing”

And yea, it’s exactly what you thought when you first read it. You talking about sick? Now ask yourself. What would you do if you were in the same boat Mr. Salomon finds himself in?

If you want to stay out of jail, I’ll tell you what you do. Nothing.


30 posted on 04/27/2015 11:36:02 AM PDT by saleman (?)
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To: DiogenesLamp

Yes they were both married to unfaithful women. Seems common law has been abandoned everywhere but this area.


31 posted on 04/27/2015 12:09:39 PM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: pierrem15
I read in a German paper that researchers there estimate that 10% of all children born in wedlock are not the husband’s children.

I should not be surprised if this is true. I've read that years ago when they first started doing blood typing at birth between parents and children, (1940s or 1950s) they discovered that about 10% of the children didn't match either the mother or the father of record.

This pretty much leaves the conclusion that the father of the child must not have been the father of record.

32 posted on 04/27/2015 12:37:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: mad_as_he$$; Nero Germanicus
Yes they were both married to unfaithful women. Seems common law has been abandoned everywhere but this area.

From the Judge's perspective, "Problem solved." That this Monarchical based laws is inherently unfair to the rights of man, does not perturb a Judge in the least. They simply cite their holy mantra "Precedent!!!!!!!!!" (Otherwise known as the fallacy of "That's the way we've always done things.") and their problems of dealing with a case magically go away.

I think Judges are always about making their life easier, and to H3ll with their victims, or the truth.

33 posted on 04/27/2015 12:42:29 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp
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To: Vigilanteman

Bingo. Could not agree more.


34 posted on 04/27/2015 3:31:21 PM PDT by piytar (If you don't know what the doctrines of taqiyya and abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

I also know several men who were completely loyal, their wives cheated on them, and they (the men) were stuck with crippling support payments and/or spent time in jail on trumped up charges.

The game is stacked against men and against faithful marriage. Anyone who doubts that is not paying attention.


35 posted on 04/27/2015 3:34:35 PM PDT by piytar (If you don't know what the doctrines of taqiyya and abrogation are, you are a fool!)
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