Can you run from police? US courts apply a double standard

Associated Press ^ | Apr 29, 2015 12:34 PM EDT | Curt Anderson and Juliet Linderman

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

It’s getting a bit into a gray area.

“Breaking: Freddie Gray Had Spinal Surgery The Week Before Arrest. Was Advised To Stay Home To Heal”

[beelzepug]

Yes, Freddy Gray was a known felon with a long sheet for dealing drugs. He wasn’t just another black guy on the street.

[PLMerite]

“Yes, Freddy Gray was a known felon with a long sheet for dealing drugs. He wasn’t just another black guy on the street.”

But the question is, did the cops know him by sight and did they have the legal right to stop him and question him? If he was on parole he would have been obligated to let them; running would have been a big no-no.

[vette6387]

“Another effective tactic is to simply walk past the officer saying “I do not wish to be encountered”.”

That doesn't work with a traffic stop because you are technically under arrest in most states and the way you are released on your own recognizance is to sign the citation's "promise to appear” line.

[beelzepug]

I don’t know if they knew him by sight; his last encounter with the cops was on March 15th for dealing cocaine, so it’s a real possibility. Not a justification for killing him, though.

[Blood of Tyrants]

Nothing illegal about that. Plenty of people carry clip knives.

[ansel12]

My issue is about the description of the common way of carrying a pocket knife.

[ansel12]

I have never seen anyone carry a pocket knife clipped on their belt, especially $260.00 pocket knives.

[PLMerite]

“Not a justification for killing him, though.”

If one is a known violent felon, (on parole?), making the police chase and tackle you is a risk you choose to take.

I doubt that the police “killed” him. More likely he facilitated his own demise.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

“I doubt that the police “killed” him. More likely he facilitated his own demise.”

See my post #21

[Theoria]

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[wmfights]

“Breaking: Freddie Gray Had Spinal Surgery The Week Before Arrest. Was Advised To Stay Home To Heal”

Wow, had no idea.

Imagine the riots if the cops are found innocent.

[Katya]

that story has been debunked.. the payout was for a lead poisoning judgement.

[DoodleDawg]

Wow, had no idea.

Probably because it isn't true. There are any number of stories out there refuting it.

[familyop]

"AP is crazed. There is no way the Constitution can be ignored that way."

I lived in a rough, black, inner city neighborhood in the Midwest during the late 1970s for the purpose of being closer to work. It wasn't done much back then. The police wouldn't even show up in residential parts of that neighborhood without three cars loaded with four policemen each with shotguns.

During the late 1990s, I lived in a mostly Mexican/Mexican-American neighborhood in a city of the West. The area was said to be one of the roughest, but it wasn't bad at all. The stop-and-frisk policy was active there. It happened all the time.

Not saying that the stop-and-frisk policy made the latter neighborhood any safer. It didn't. But there were far fewer dangerous psychopaths.

Not saying that black folks are any worse than others, either. Most of them were generous and kind. They only spoke and behaved in some ways differently from us--ways that had nothing to do with the crimes committed by the extremely small percentage of mean ones.

There was a very noticeable difference between the two neighborhoods, though. The neighborhood of the 1990s in the West respected fatherhood and family. And by the way, that Mexican neighborhood was far safer than the white neighborhood of the small, Midwestern city that I left behind (very corrupt).

Oh, yeah, there are stop-and-frisk policies. But they don't do anything about the roots of the problem (joblessness, drugs, feminism/cohabitation/divorce,...).

[rarestia]

That’s a new one on me. I’ll have to remember that.

[familyop]

Ghetto men don’t get switchblades much these days, although many in the ancient past of my childhood would bring them to places like New Yuk from places like Italy or Puerto Rico.

But big city employees relatively rich with government cash flow probably do. I reckon switchblades can still be obtained around the fringes of fancy tourist corrals down south.

Switchblades are crap anyway. Very few American blue collar men—even criminals—have attention spans so short as to carry something so fragile for the purpose of using it as a weapon.

If a group wanted to break a criminal’s neck, though, a switchblade would be good for planting at the scene. That’s been done many times in the past, especially during riots, with cheap, stolen pistols.

[Dr. Bogus Pachysandra]

Katya,
I’ve been searching for info. I find that the lump settlement payout Gray was seeking was for childhood lead poisoning. So, that part of the story was debunked. But I haven’t found anything about the possible surgery. Do you have any better links?

[Katya]

Another freeper posted a thread link which includes screen shots of the lead poisoning etc. The site that originally posted the story about his surgery... was using the payout info as proof. They didn’t have any other information posted as evidence... ie records. I don’t think any of this is useful if they don’t supply a link...

[ChicagahAl]

Freddy Gray was a known felon with a long sheet for dealing drugs. He wasn’t just another black guy on the street.

Depending on the neighborhood; you may have just contradicted yourself. Sadly.