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1 posted on 04/30/2015 10:38:54 AM PDT by QT3.14
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Less likely to meet standards of suspicion (though of course there is always the wild card factor) if you walk, not run, to leave a policed area. “Don’t let them see you sweat.”


2 posted on 04/30/2015 10:41:20 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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You can run but you can't hide. They will catch you.
3 posted on 04/30/2015 10:41:28 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts ("It is never untimely to yank the rope of freedom's bell." - - Frank Capra)
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Isn’t the question “may” you run from the police?


4 posted on 04/30/2015 10:43:03 AM PDT by Behind Liberal Lines (Obama loves America the way OJ loved Nicole)
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Can you run from police?

According to some this would depend on what color I was. /s

5 posted on 04/30/2015 10:45:08 AM PDT by VideoDoctor
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In Baltimore, you can now.


6 posted on 04/30/2015 10:45:26 AM PDT by Old Yeller (Civil rights are for civilized people.)
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in safe neighborhoods, people not suspected of a criminal activity

And how am I supposed to know whether this applies to me? If a policeman is attempting to get my attention, I cooperate.

7 posted on 04/30/2015 10:45:48 AM PDT by Genoa (Starve the beast.)
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In Chris Rock's "How not to get your ass beat by the police", the number one rules is don't run.

Chris Rock: How not to get your ass kicked by the police

8 posted on 04/30/2015 10:46:14 AM PDT by DannyTN
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Not usually a good idea but, you should be able to run from police without probable cause attaching...


9 posted on 04/30/2015 10:46:55 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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Sure.

Not sure how far you'll get, but you can run if you really want to.

10 posted on 04/30/2015 10:47:15 AM PDT by tacticalogic ("Oh, bother!" said Pooh, as he chambered his last round.)
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people not suspected of criminal activity can ignore a police officer who approaches them

Freddy had a long rap sheet. Was a known drug dealer and had a pending court date of drug charges. He was found with a switch blade in his possession.

12 posted on 04/30/2015 10:48:58 AM PDT by oldbrowser (We have a rogue government in Washington)
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As I understand it, Gray wasn’t arrested for running but for possession of a switchblade knife. I don’t know why this should be illegal, but it would certainly land a white guy in jail, no questions asked.


13 posted on 04/30/2015 10:49:27 AM PDT by Socon-Econ
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I would believe that the very act of running away would establish probable cause. If you were already running, after the bus lets say, then there would be no probable cause. However, this would only be relevant in determining what evidence can be allowed at your trial. The police’s job is to apprehend the accused so they appear in court to face their charge. The guilt or innocence is irrelevant. As most defense attorneys would say, “ I love the police, if they did not do their job, I would not have any clients.”


14 posted on 04/30/2015 10:51:01 AM PDT by gusty
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How can you determine the police ARE the police.?.

OR MP’s, IRS, White House goons, or even some other White House Executive Agency..
Their are many....... ARMED too...


15 posted on 04/30/2015 10:51:21 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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18 posted on 04/30/2015 10:54:46 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either satire or opinion. Or both.)
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For all of my 60+ years I ASSUMED they can shoot at you if you run from them for ANY reason. I think I will keep looking at it that way. Sure has kept me OUT OF JAIL!

Plus I don’t break the law. That helps too.


22 posted on 04/30/2015 10:58:00 AM PDT by buffyt (Socialism Is Legal Plunder - Bastiat... $18 trillion = enslavement of our children to DEBT.)
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Never run away from the cops. Always walk away. If they tell you to stop, you respond in a loud voice “I do not wish to be encountered.” and keep walking.

This creates a legal “process point” in that the Officer has been notified that you do not wish to engage with them in any conversation. If the officer at that time wishes to detain you, he must then take further action to do so. this puts the burden of “reasonable suspicion” (see Terry vs Ohio SCOTUS ruling) on the officer for the stop. If the officer want you to stop, he will have to communicate that via another order. This denies the officer the “cover” of simply wanting to talk to you. The officer must either initiate a formal stop, or let you continue to walk away.

If the officer does stop you, the response changes as the circumstances have changed. Now the response should be “I want to be on my way. Am I being detained or am I free to go?” Do not answer any questions (I do not answer questions from law enforcement or agents of the state without the presence of my attorney) and repeat the question of being detained twice for a total of three times. If the officer does not directly answer the question, make the positive assertion of “If you do not tell me that I have been detained, I will now be on my way.” pause for 3 seconds to allow the officer to respond and then proceed to walk away.

Once the officer says that you are detained, repeat one of the following 3 statements until you are either arrested or no longer detained:

1) I do not consent to a search of myself or my property
2) I do not answer questions from law enforcement or agents of the state without the presence of my attorney
3) Depriving me of my rights is a violation of Title 42 section 1983 of the federal code.

If the officer arrests you, say “I am asserting my right to remain silent and I wish to speak with my lawyer.” Say nothing else. You are not required to respond to any of their questions or statements or assertions. You do not need to make that statement multiple times, but you DO need to make that statement at least once.

In this case, very likely that the “reasonable suspicion” threshold would have been met. Known drug area, prior convictions, etc. This would have triggered a Terry stop.


23 posted on 04/30/2015 10:58:12 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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MAYBE, BUT NOT FROM THEIR mOTOROLA.


33 posted on 04/30/2015 11:08:15 AM PDT by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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the U.S. Supreme Court has made clear that in safe neighborhoods, people not suspected of criminal activity can ignore a police officer who approaches them, even to the point of walking away.

But courts have set a different standard for places where street crime is common, ruling that police can chase, stop and frisk people if their location contributes to a suspicion of criminal activity.

Interesting. My response is as follows:

"All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

37 posted on 04/30/2015 11:11:17 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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The south carolina incident...suspect fled 3 times, assaulted officer, grabbed taser.


38 posted on 04/30/2015 11:12:00 AM PDT by biggredd1
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My legs are too damaged to literally run from the police, but in my younger, wilder, stupider days, I could and did "run" from them on numerous occasions while riding a motorcycle or driving a car.

I never got caught, either.

39 posted on 04/30/2015 11:14:00 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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