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I’m a Florist, But I Refused to Do Flowers for my Gay Friend’s Wedding
Washington Post ^ | 2/12

Posted on 05/13/2015 12:52:30 PM PDT by nickcarraway

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To: nickcarraway
It's 'Richland, WA'. Not 'Richmond, WA.'

This lady did the flowers for my Wife's memorial service.
She has gone out of her way to help me get just the right arraignments I wanted, including special ordering items.

I've bought a lot of flowers from her through the years and she has always been a very nice and professional lady to deal with. I can only guess that someone wanted to make a case using her as an example. She does not deserve the hate she is getting.

Ed

41 posted on 05/13/2015 3:45:42 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Talisker

Yes it is the same sad story as other evil addictions.

Some deeply felt need of the person becomes entrained upon an illusory satisfaction.

“Sex” is such a complex thing. We talk about, and know about popular perceptions of, things being “sexy” (like a truck or a dress) that have zero part in any kind of copulative act unless it is a very weird perversion. But it is a subjective matter to the one perceiving it.

Anyhow, when the devil hangs his deceiving signpost of supposed satisfaction on something like buggery he can pump a soul full of addictive lies that never satisfy.

The love of God is the only thing that can disassemble the deceit and rebuild holiness. It is a hard row to hoe for such persons, but if they succeed in clinging to the love of God, they will learn something better than mere sensual satisfaction.


42 posted on 05/13/2015 4:08:10 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: husky ed

She might have been over-accommodating to her eccentric friend’s other eccentric activities, and if so she failed in not calling a stop to it sooner. It might have felt to him as though she led him on and then rejected him (in a manner of speaking, in his insane world).

I.e. possible bad judgment on her part. I still hope and pray the Lord manages to prevail in the situation.


43 posted on 05/13/2015 4:15:11 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: nikos1121

I am terribly sorry for your loss.

L


44 posted on 05/13/2015 4:26:24 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: nickcarraway
I believe the answer is that Christians are not called to be life long friends with people who don't know Christ. We are called to be salt and light, and to disciple people in the name of the Father, Son, and the Holy Spirit. I would guess if she had been working toward that end during the time she had known this guy, that the relationship would have ended and she would have never been put in this situation.
45 posted on 05/13/2015 4:32:25 PM PDT by kjam22 (my music video "If My People" at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74b20RjILy4)
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To: nickcarraway

I wonder who wrote this article. I always thought this lady lives in RICHLANS WA. Why would she write Richmond if she wrote it herself?


46 posted on 05/13/2015 7:08:13 PM PDT by tinamina
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To: Talisker

“So why do identical twins have different personalities, if their genetics are, literally, identical?”

Even living in the same household, what each experiences will be different. It would be impossible for each to experience the same event at the same time in the same way starting with their birthing.


47 posted on 05/13/2015 8:11:08 PM PDT by Techster
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To: Techster
Even living in the same household, what each experiences will be different. It would be impossible for each to experience the same event at the same time in the same way starting with their birthing.

Exactly. Thus my point - if there's a developmental component to being homosexual, is it really a choice? I think not.

48 posted on 05/14/2015 12:06:47 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

Because they’re mentally ill that’s why.


50 posted on 05/14/2015 6:32:36 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: MrB

Ellen DeGeneres said, I believe this is true, that she “first” realized she was gay when she was shopping for cantelopes in a super market.

I don’t think people have a problem with what people do behind closed doors. Women have been dancing with women for years and no one bats an eye. The in thing now is to “do” another girl. Does that make one gay? I think not.

But when you basically take a sexual decision and now legitimize it with marriage, it’s a whole different ball game. It is no different than polygamy.


51 posted on 05/14/2015 6:39:46 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: Telepathic Intruder

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52 posted on 05/14/2015 6:44:14 AM PDT by nikos1121 ("The enemy of your enemy is your enemy!" B. Netanyahu)
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To: nikos1121

Oh, I am so sorry for your loss. What that must be to carry.

Did you ever think that something may have happened to him in his youth to flip that switch in his brain? So many times we hear about some form of sexual “encounter” or abuse that happens early on.

I think the sexualization of our most precious children will eventually be our downfall.


53 posted on 05/14/2015 6:45:46 AM PDT by ican'tbelieveit
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54 posted on 05/14/2015 8:22:54 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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To: nikos1121
Because they’re mentally ill that’s why.

Well let's take your diagnosis at face value - if they're mentally ill from childhood, where's their choice in the matter? And wouldn't that be a sign of genetics?

55 posted on 05/14/2015 9:55:15 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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“Exactly. Thus my point - if there’s a developmental component to being homosexual, is it really a choice? I think not.”

Really!

It is your choice which role model you will follow. In one study of identical twins where one twin was homosexual, only about 10% of the other twin was homosexual. Genetically the same, very similar environment yet 90% did not choose to be homosexual. Although the 10% number is double what might be expected in the general population, it does demonstrate there is a choice. If it were not a choice, that number should approach 100%.


56 posted on 05/14/2015 11:10:19 AM PDT by Techster
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To: Techster
If it were not a choice, that number should approach 100%.

Nonsense. You can't make such an estimate without knowing what the triggering parameters are - and no one knows that.

I'll give you an example. My personal theory is that homosexuality is common to everyone before puberty. It is commonly observed that pre-pubescent boys and girls mainly and mostly hang out with same-sex friends. And this makes sense, because once puberty his they will not only be competing with each other for mates, but also spending most of their time with the opposite sex for family reasons. As well, children spending time with same-sex friends helps them validate things they discover about themselves in every area of development - physical, mental and emotional.

So how does homosexuality happen? Puberty doesn't do one thing, it does two things. First, it awakens sexual hormones and desires. But secondly, it shifts the main focus of friendship and bonding to the opposite sex.

Week its obvious that with homosexuals, the first thing is happening but not the second. That's why they say they've "always" been homosexual. What they mean is that they never shifted the focus of their attraction in puberty like everyone else did.

And that shift in focus is fierce. It can't be faked. After all, the continuation of the species literally depends on it.

Meanwhile, "researchers" look for the "cause" of homosexuality, instead of looking (IMHO) for why the homosexuality didn't STOP at puberty. Which is a while different line of investigation.

But because occurs at puberty, I don't think it's a "choice" of a still-immature child-teen that creates instant ostrization at a point in time when the desire for group acceptance is at perhaps it's highest point.

And so for all those reasons, I think a low percentage of people are actual homosexuals. The rest are being confused, pressured and literally created in public schools by the teachers, administrators and curriculum which demands acceptance of that which most kids are most reworked by precisely because puberty is in the process of rejecting it in their lives, and turning them towards heterosexuality. In that, the schools are so profoundly evil they should be eliminated completely for crimes against humanity.

57 posted on 05/14/2015 11:37:26 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Techster
(I cleaned this up and reposted it - I absolutely hate autocorrect.)

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If it were not a choice, that number should approach 100%.

Nonsense. You can't make such an estimate without knowing what the triggering parameters are - and no one knows that.

I'll give you an example. My personal theory is that homosexuality is common to everyone before puberty. It is commonly observed that pre-pubescent boys and girls mainly and mostly hang out with same-sex friends. And this makes sense, because once puberty hits they will not only be competing with each other for mates, but also spending most of their time with the opposite sex for family reasons. As well, children spending time with same-sex friends helps them validate things they discover about themselves in every area of development - physical, mental and emotional.

So how does homosexuality happen? Puberty doesn't do one thing, it does two things. First, it awakens sexual hormones and desires. But secondly, it shifts the main focus of friendship and bonding to the opposite sex.

So it's obvious that with homosexuals, the first thing is happening - but not the second. That's why they say they've "always" been homosexual. What they mean is that they never shifted the focus of their attraction in puberty to the opposite sex like everyone else did.

And that shift in focus is fierce. It can't be faked. After all, the continuation of the species literally depends on it.

Meanwhile, "researchers" look for the "cause" of homosexuality, instead of looking (IMHO) for why the homosexuality didn't STOP at puberty. Which is a whole different line of investigation.

So, because occurs at puberty, I don't think it's a "choice" of a still-immature child-teen that creates instant ostracization at a point in time when the desire for group acceptance is at perhaps it's highest point.

And so for all those reasons, I think a low percentage of people are actual homosexuals. The rest are being confused, pressured and literally artificially (and temporarily) created in public schools by the teachers, administrators and curriculum which demands acceptance of that which most kids are most repelled by precisely because puberty is in the process of rejecting it in their lives, and turning them towards heterosexuality.

And in doing that, the schools are so profoundly evil they should be eliminated completely for crimes against humanity.

58 posted on 05/14/2015 11:59:08 AM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker
Finally some areas of agreement!

I do not associate the pre-pubescent behavior of boys and girls as homosexuality, but a societal norm of keeping them apart so they don't ‘play’ with each other. That is an interesting thought about preparing them for the later competition for a mate

Yes, the continuation of the species literally depends on heterosexual behavior.

And yes the pressures present in the schools and many other places to accept homosexuality as the norm are factors.

59 posted on 05/14/2015 12:44:07 PM PDT by Techster
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I do not associate the pre-pubescent behavior of boys and girls as homosexuality, but a societal norm of keeping them apart so they don't ‘play’ with each other.

The word "homosexuality" for pre-pubescent behavior is naturally limited, because by definition there is no "sexuality" about it. There might be a lot of curiosity, but that's nothing like the post-pubescent adolescent drives.

Nevertheless, I think it's overwhelmingly established that other than occasional curiosity, pre-pubescent children are overwhelmingly attracted to same-sex friends. To girls, boys are "icky," and to boys, girls have "coodies." During this part of their lives it's enormously important for children to get clear on what makes a girl a girl if they are a girl, and what makes a boy a boy if they are a boy. I'm not talking rocket science - I'm talking about the fundamental orientations of "which way is up and which was is down." Which is in actuality thought patterns, behaviors, expectations, shared responses, feedback - the whole psychological deal.

That's why, other than just growing larger, same-sex kids are spared from having any major natural physical differences as pre-pubescents. Some, yes, but not a lot, and the ones they have they can see and deal with. And as for setting up being futute rivals for mates, this time of their lives is perhaps the only time they will ever have where they are not rivals. So they can deeply bond and learn what same-sex friendship is without any hint of sex. That, in turn, will see them through adolescence and early adulthood despite their heterosexual rivalry, which will soon heat up far hotter than anything they can imagine as children.

As to why homosexuals don't switch when everyone else does, I don't know. I must say I do believe it is genetic in some way, however it might not be hard-coded. In other words, the genetic possibility might be there, perhaps in everyone, but everyone has different thresholds of triggering, from say low-to-high. Animal studies have shown that higher population densities, food shortages, physicial threats and a number of different kinds of social stresses increas ethe amount of homosexual behaviors. So maybe that has something to to with it.

Nevertheless, when it is triggered, I believe is is genuinely, seriously triggered at a very deep level, even genetic. After all, most homosexuals live miserable lives and they know it, full of loss, loneliness, exile, drugs, alcoholism, abuse, etc. They often blame criticism for their misery, but behind the scenes many studies have shown that they know their lifestyles themselves are extremely self-destructive. So basically, I don't believe they'd accept all that hell if they could actually change. And, of course, if it's a triggered genetic issued, they can't.

60 posted on 05/14/2015 1:44:16 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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