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1 posted on 05/24/2015 11:43:31 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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There’s a two word description for the entire problem: union labor.

A good cop can’t blow the whistle on a bad cop because both cops are under the thumb of the union, which is filled with all the other cops who hold their brotherhood in the union at a higher level than their sworn duty and personal honor.

Not two minutes elapsed from the final capture of the Boston Marathon bomber, before one officer was on the radio wondering aloud to his fellows whether the night’s actions would be enough to knock down more money from City Hall.

Just two examples and, thousands more crawl out of departments around the country every year.

Union first; job...some ways down the line.


2 posted on 05/24/2015 11:58:59 PM PDT by HKMk23 (You ask how to fight an idea? Well, I'll tell you how: with another idea!)
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Ping!


3 posted on 05/25/2015 12:02:19 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows ("Nimue" - https://youtu.be/NHq7CtM9QMA | Facebook ID: Hopalong Q Ginsberg)
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Hard to swallow the assertions mentioned in the first paragraph. Serpico loses I guess...


4 posted on 05/25/2015 12:18:47 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

Yes, that’s right...evil police cause all the problems in the inner-city. The solution of course is for the police to stop doing police work in those areas. Surely, the violent crime rate will go down in cities like Baltimore, won’t it? Okay, stop laughing.


5 posted on 05/25/2015 3:03:59 AM PDT by driftless2
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Never had to fire your gun? Today ever son-of-obama is carrying. You gonna bring yer baton to a gunfight, if you’ll permit me to paraphrase?


8 posted on 05/25/2015 4:48:28 AM PDT by 9thLife (The dream is free. The hustle is sold separately.)
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To: nickcarraway

Will there be crime if there’s no one there to write reports about it? Public Unions suck, but there is a much bigger problem here. It’s the perception of the role of police in society. They are a politician’s virtual pawn and are treated as either the solver of all problems, relieving the people from responsibility by oppressing the opposition or the ultimate evil for oppressing the folks they are pandering to this week. Either way, they aren’t sure of what is expected by their master. Uncertainty, breeds aberrant behavior. It is a no win battle and cynicism is only one byproduct.


9 posted on 05/25/2015 4:55:42 AM PDT by Steamburg (Other people's money is the only language a politician respects)
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To: nickcarraway

Last decade we loved first responders. This decade we hate them! Orwell lives.


10 posted on 05/25/2015 5:00:50 AM PDT by Raycpa
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Moral...... clearly, the police need the baton returned as a tool to destroy the will and ability of a belligerent resisting arrest.


11 posted on 05/25/2015 5:05:18 AM PDT by bert ((K.E.; N.P.; GOPc.;+12, 73, ..... No peace? then no peace!)
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To: nickcarraway

Great article, it hits all the highlights of the problem.


15 posted on 05/25/2015 5:35:34 AM PDT by ansel12
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…The problem is that the atmosphere does not yet exist in which an honest police officer can act without fear of ridicule or reprisal from fellow officers. We create an atmosphere in which the honest officer fears the dishonest officer, and not the other way around.

Pretty much sums it up. The police have a real serious problem. When conservative sites like FR are chock full of folks who will no longer give them the benefit of the doubt,  they are in real trouble.

22 posted on 05/25/2015 8:59:16 AM PDT by zeugma (Are there more nearby spiders than the sun is big?)
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I could not count the number of times a spaced-out offender fought while resisting arrest. Police carried wooden batons and later the PR-24 side handle baton. When trying to subdue on unruly person, sometimes we had to resort to the use of the baton.

That ended shortly after Rodney King. With widespread video recording capabilities, police did NOT want to be recorded smacking an "unarmed" suspect with enough force to subdue. The baton gave way to the taser.

Since the taser does not always work, the raser has given way to the gun. Police depts are more willing to deal with the bad PR of a shooting, than deal with a police officer's disability claims.

23 posted on 05/25/2015 9:08:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: nickcarraway

We have a tough, dangerous job.
Our brother cop did not get up that morning with the goal of becoming involved in an officer-involved shooting.
The dog needn’t be large to have a lethal bite —good shoot.
If you’re REALLY not up to no good you won’t mind me taking a look, right?
What, are you a hippy..?
Still mad about that ticket, 10 years ago..?
We’re just doing our jobs.
Police SOP’s are well-established —the police violated the rights of no one.
The key thing is for us to go home safely at the end of the shift.
Next time you have an emergency, just call the ACLU.
We have to make split second decisions —you’re being unfair.
Don’t paint us all with the same broad brush.
I don’t think you understand just how highly we are trained.
We’re the thin blue line, what, ya want anarchy..?
The investigation showed the police followed department procedure.
You must just be a cop hater.
Ever been a cop? Then you’re unqualified to judge us —walk a mile in our moccasins.
It’s cops vs. the bad guys, and if you’re not for us, you’re AGAINST us.
You’re asking about something that’s the subject of an ongoing investigation —no comment.
We can’t comment on topics of ongoing investigations.


27 posted on 05/25/2015 11:35:40 AM PDT by gaijin
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What would be the purpose of The Baltimore Sun dragging out a name from the past ,Frank Serpico, involved with exposing some serious police drug corruption in New York city. Then linking in his name in their article questioning some recent arrests strongly suggesting the same ?

How about not seeking the facts and justice but instead defending the political agenda and the status quo attempting to legitimize the bogus charges against the 5 coppers involved in the arrest of Gray ?

It boggles the mind but it’s a clear demonstration here in FR’s on why the propaganda from the left instead of being questioned works.


29 posted on 05/25/2015 4:59:18 PM PDT by mosesdapoet (Some of my best rebuttals are in FR's along with meaningless venting no one reads.)
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