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Woman Accused of Running Down Navy Chief Petty Officer in Road Rage Killing: CHP
NBC San DIego ^ | 30 MAY 2015 | R. Stickney, Monica Garske and Andie Adams

Posted on 05/30/2015 2:52:34 PM PDT by South40

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To: Secret Agent Man

Some California cases are being tried for murder, for driving under the influence, and killing somebody.


81 posted on 05/31/2015 11:02:04 AM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Secret Agent Man
Motorcycists are hsrdly saints.

And you know the hearts and souls of all of them, right?

We come from all walks of life.

82 posted on 05/31/2015 11:05:27 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: doorgunner69

Why does a motorcyclist need to weave through traffic in order to avoid becoming a meat sandwich?


83 posted on 05/31/2015 12:18:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
Why does a motorcyclist need to weave through traffic in order to avoid becoming a meat sandwich?

Go ride a bike in stop and go traffic and you will quickly suspect why. Or at least have a clue unless comatose.

84 posted on 05/31/2015 12:26:02 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

So motorcyclists are more likely to get rear-ended in traffic?

I guess I am completely ignorant and a bit obtuse on it, as I’d have thought it about impossible for the car directly behind, presumably the only one in a position to do damage, to not see the motorcyclist. I also would have thought the speed of any damaging movement would be too slow to do the usual damage.


85 posted on 05/31/2015 1:07:19 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: 9YearLurker
You "about" page does not say where you live, but from your replies, is seems you live in NYC. I will assume you have never driven on LA freeways in stop and go traffic.

It does not creep along like NYC sludge, but accelerates up to 20-30mph and slams back to a dead stop. Over and over, like a giant accordion. A bike caught in the midst of this has to hope the car in back is paying attention and stops in time.

Bumper tag is very common, you do not want to play that with a car. I used to get a kick out of admitring the skid marks all over the concrete center dividers from those that lost control trying to stop in time.

Better idea now? I stopped riding on LA streets and freeways long before I stopped riding altogether.

86 posted on 05/31/2015 1:38:06 PM PDT by doorgunner69
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To: doorgunner69

I have spent a few weeks in So Cal on biz and have driven the CA freeways over the decades. (Though yeah, I am currently just outside of NYC.)

That sort of stop and go, however, would seem to make it more dangerous for motorcyclists to do their weaving—as they really could only surprise car drivers by doing so—and also be the sort of chronic traffic that the cyclists couldn’t really get away from by just getting ahead of a few cars.

Again, my ignorance on this issue is clearly deep and wide, but I’ve always taken motorcyclists as just annoyingly jumping traffic by that move—while also endangering themselves and, to a degree, car drivers and occupants.


87 posted on 05/31/2015 1:52:50 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Boomer
Lane splitting has always been legal in California because it has never been illegal. It is legal there for multiple vehicles to occupy the same lane. Until recently, guidelines for lane splitting could be found online in the CHP (California Highway Patrol) website. They took these down while trying to decide if they want to write specific laws to control it.

I just retired to Tennessee after 65 years in California. Never again will I get an ‘F’ on my marked-up voter's Sample Ballot.

88 posted on 05/31/2015 8:09:54 PM PDT by slow0n1 (Clarksville, TN)
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Lane-splitting about 1/2 way to being fully legal in CA...(instead of a “gray-area”): http://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2015/05/28/california-state-assembly-approves-lane-splitting-legislation-allowing-motorcyclists-to-move-through-stalled-traffic/


89 posted on 05/31/2015 8:36:19 PM PDT by Drago
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To: slow0n1

“I just retired to Tennessee after 65 years in California. Never again will I get an ‘F’ on my marked-up voter’s Sample Ballot.”

Congrats. I left decades ago and never looked back except for those few times I go visit family in a city I never lived in to the North.

More people are leaving Cali than moving to it unless you are hispanic. Hispanics are moving there in droves and of course ruining a once great state. It was one of my main reasons for leaving it all those years ago. I could see the writing on the wall even back then. I didn’t think it was going to be this bad though...


90 posted on 05/31/2015 9:51:27 PM PDT by Boomer (America; love it or leave it. It isn't just a bumper sticker.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

No, “Your comment makes you come across as a jackass” is NOT a personal insult.

“You ARE a jackass” IS a personal insult.

Do you understand the difference now, or are you so far in to your little liberal, overly sensitive, cry-baby mode that you do cannot see the difference between telling you how some people may be perceiving your comments, and directly calling you names?

You’ve got a lot of nerve accusing someone else of acting like a liberal.


91 posted on 06/01/2015 5:02:04 AM PDT by WayneS (Barack Obama makes Neville Chamberlin look like George Patton.)
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To: South40

I cannot wait to get out of the city when I am riding. Probably three out of four people are on their phones. Who the hell are they talking to? The one out of four are too old or too stupid to be driving.

Driving on back roads is so much better.


92 posted on 06/01/2015 5:18:26 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: House Atreides

Open season on subhumans.


93 posted on 06/01/2015 9:13:11 PM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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To: 9YearLurker

Overheated motors, for one.
This was a big problem for Rolling Thunder until they got the ride sequence worked out.


94 posted on 06/01/2015 9:21:33 PM PDT by Salamander (Vested Subhuman)
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