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Navy Researching Firing Mach 5 Guided Round from Standard Deck Guns
USNI ^ | June 1, 2015 | By Sam LaGrone

Posted on 06/01/2015 6:15:44 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee

The U.S. Navy’s deck guns could take on new relevance if ongoing tests to fire a guided round at five times the speed of sound from their muzzles are successful, USNI News has learned.

Using rounds initially designed for the service’s emerging electromagnetic railgun, Naval Sea Systems Command are now in early testing phases of using the planned hyper velocity projectile (HVPs) with the service’s existing gunpowder-based deck guns found on almost every U.S. Navy surface ship, NAVSEA told USNI News.

The HVPs from a traditional deck gun will be slower than one launched from a railgun — a little over Mach 5 versus Mach 7 — but still double the speed of an unguided regular shell from the service’s Mk 45 five-inch gun found on its guided missile cruisers and destroyers, according to information from NAVSEA.

While deck guns are standard through out the fleet, they lack the range precision of the guided missiles found on cruisers and destroyers and have had shrinking utility in high-end warfare.

A high speed guided round from a deck gun could give U.S. ships more options to deal with air and ballistic missile threats while the Navy continues to refine the railgun design. . .

(Excerpt) Read more at news.usni.org ...


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KEYWORDS: railgun
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1 posted on 06/01/2015 6:15:44 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee

but what good are they going to be against global warming? /s


2 posted on 06/01/2015 6:17:23 PM PDT by dp0622
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Can they hit Mecca from the Red Sea?


3 posted on 06/01/2015 6:17:26 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Ive given up on aphostrophys and spell chek on my current device...)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Interesting to an old Navy man like me.


4 posted on 06/01/2015 6:17:40 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (A free society canÂ’t let the parameters of its speech be set by murderous extremists.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Does it come in a size 16 ;-)

Ed

5 posted on 06/01/2015 6:21:17 PM PDT by husky ed (FOX NEWS ALERT "Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead" THIS HAS BEEN A FOX NEWS ALERT)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Sometimes lobbing a shell the size of a Volkswagen Bug at Point du Hoc can make quit an impression.


6 posted on 06/01/2015 6:23:45 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Will anyone use it to protect the territorial integrity of the once great nation? No.


7 posted on 06/01/2015 6:26:07 PM PDT by The Toll
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To: Brad from Tennessee

They’re busy revving up the powerful Mach 5!

And when the odds are against .... oh nevermind.


8 posted on 06/01/2015 6:29:22 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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9 posted on 06/01/2015 6:31:21 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Claire Wolfe should check her watch. It's time.)
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To: Paladin2

“Can they hit Mecca from the Red Sea?”

Probably. The rail gun has a range of over 300 miles I don’t know what the range of these would be but I would think it is substantial


10 posted on 06/01/2015 6:40:27 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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About $150 to YELLOW! (90%)
Any takers?


11 posted on 06/01/2015 6:49:36 PM PDT by RedMDer (Keep Free Republic Alive with YOUR Donations!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

+1.


12 posted on 06/01/2015 6:50:36 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

At that kind of velocity from a rifled barrel, how do they keep the projectile from self-destructing in flight?


13 posted on 06/01/2015 7:00:44 PM PDT by Flatus I. Maximus (Obstruct. Oppose. Overthrow. Obama.)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

The barrel would probably be made smooth with the round saboted.


14 posted on 06/01/2015 7:07:04 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: Paladin2

Not before January 20, 2017!


15 posted on 06/01/2015 7:16:12 PM PDT by A Formerly Proud Canadian (I once was blind, but now I see...)
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To: husky ed

I was thinking the same thing. Is it too late to bring the New Jersey back?


16 posted on 06/01/2015 7:39:20 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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To: Brad from Tennessee
The HVPs from a traditional deck gun will be slower than one launched from a railgun — a little over Mach 5 versus Mach 7 — but still double the speed of an unguided regular shell from the service’s Mk 45 five-inch gun found on its guided missile cruisers and destroyers, according to information from NAVSEA.

The published muzzle velocity of the Mk 45 is 2650 fps or Mach 3.5

So how are they going to get the guided munition from Mach 3.5 to 5.0?

17 posted on 06/01/2015 7:59:22 PM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: Flatus I. Maximus

[BAE Systems’ Hyper Velocity Projectile]

Since it’s a kinetic energy projectile the solid core is made from tungsten carbide or some heat resistant alloy.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 7:59:49 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Can’t wait to get my hands on one of these and take it to the range....


19 posted on 06/01/2015 8:04:51 PM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Pontiac
[The published muzzle velocity of the Mk 45 is 2650 fps or Mach 3.5 So how are they going to get the guided munition from Mach 3.5 to 5.0?]

Don't know but I found this:

Naval Sea Systems Command is also looking to fire a version of the hyper velocity projectile (HVP) developed for Navy electromagnetic railguns from conventional 5-inch deck guns. The shell would travel at Mach 5 rather than Mach 7, but still be twice as fast as a regular unguided 5-inch shell. Using the HVP could give existing destroyers and cruisers better ability to engage land, air, and missile threats and allow more time to refine the railgun. The HVP would be a cheaper solution to intercepting incoming missiles than a missile interceptor costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Converting the HVP to fire from conventional guns is not yet a program of record.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/?title=5%22/54_caliber_Mark_45_gun

20 posted on 06/01/2015 8:13:25 PM PDT by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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