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Cliven Bundy will be held accountable, Interior secretary says
The Hill ^ | 6/25/15 | Timothy Cama

Posted on 06/25/2015 10:51:27 PM PDT by Nachum

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To: Nachum

He should try the Gruber defense. Tell the BLM the law has a bunch of typos in it.


21 posted on 06/26/2015 3:04:22 AM PDT by Kid Shelleen (Beat your plowshares into swords. Let the weak say I am strong)
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To: Old Sarge

Ping


22 posted on 06/26/2015 4:11:50 AM PDT by sport
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To: LongWayHome

The seeds of this collapse started in the 1890s.


23 posted on 06/26/2015 4:25:34 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Jack Black

She’d push you into the ovens because it’s the ‘right thing’ to do.


24 posted on 06/26/2015 4:27:16 AM PDT by 1010RD (First, Do No Harm)
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To: Nachum
Cliven Bundy’s days, along with everyone else there with him, are numbered. Waco set the precedent. He [They has been thoroughly demonized previously so all that needs to be done are refreshing and updating. not only that, this time the Feds will have a cheering section to cheer them on. The Waco Fifth Column will be cheering.
25 posted on 06/26/2015 5:36:53 AM PDT by sport
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To: Nachum

If’n ya wanna hold Bundy”accountable”, mister fed,

you’re gonna hafta do it all sneaky-like

instead of the normal bluster and show of force,

because the latter will be met likewise.


26 posted on 06/26/2015 5:39:40 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: LongWayHome; DoughtyOne; Paulie
"The seeds of this collapse started in the 60s."

In this particular instance, it started when Congress enacted the Federal Lands and Policy Management Act of 1976.

The first battle in the Sage Brush rebellion was with Wayne Hage when he bought the Pine Creek Ranch in 1978, which was around 7000 acres that he owned and grazing rights on another 750,000 acres of BLM land. I don't recall the numbers but Bundy owns a few hundred acres and leases tens of thounsand acres.

But you are right about the 60s, because that is when Congress first began enacting laws dealing with land, water, and pollution. The Land and Water Conservation Fund was in the 60s as was Wild & Scenic Rivers. But the 70s was when most of them were enacted. NEPA, Clean Water, Clean Air, & Endangered Species to name a few. It was in that same time period that dam building was sharply curtailed. The Ah Pah dam in northern CA was rejected as was the two additional dams on the Colorado River.

Bundy's problem arose over the endangered specie, desert tortoise and came to a head when he moved his stock on to Lake Mead Recreation Area to graze.

It was all co-ordinated to draw attention to the movement in all the western states claiming ownership of these federal lands

27 posted on 06/26/2015 5:44:49 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: DoughtyOne

Yep.


28 posted on 06/26/2015 5:47:05 AM PDT by uncitizen
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To: wideawake

I agree. Bundy’s cause was the wrong hill to die on.


29 posted on 06/26/2015 5:47:36 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Nachum

OK......except he OWES ....nothing


30 posted on 06/26/2015 6:08:43 AM PDT by zzwhale
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To: Nachum

Sally Jewell will be held accountable.


31 posted on 06/26/2015 6:31:40 AM PDT by CPT Clay
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To: null and void; Nachum; Kartographer; LucyT; butterdezillion; INVAR; Dick Bachert; GOPJ; BCW; ...
H/T to our FRiend Nachum for the post and to Sport for the heads-up.

One thing that was never broadly mentioned during the Bunkerville standoff was, the BLM also was interested in the mineral rights for the Bundy Ranch (rare-earth metals which currently have to be purchased overseas) - and it's a sure bet that Harry Reid was aware of it, too.

Always ask, cui bono...

For thus has the Lord said unto me:
“Go, set a watchman, Let him declare what he sees.”
Isaiah 21:6

The Watchman Ping List - FReepmail Old Sarge for details!

32 posted on 06/26/2015 6:47:44 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Its the Sixties all over again, but with crappy music...)
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To: Nachum

But Lerner, Hilliary and the IRS in general can continue to flout the law, and there will be no consequences...

nuts!


33 posted on 06/26/2015 6:51:52 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: taxcontrol
We weren't there for Bundy’s “cause”. We were there because of the Government's heavy handed response and the illegal destruction of private property. If the Government tries it again hundreds will be there within hours. Thousands within 48 hours.
34 posted on 06/26/2015 6:57:45 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: LongWayHome

I agree. The division in this country is too great to heal. There is no way. At some point half of us are going to pull away from the other half. IMO it may be precipitated by the coming economic crash.


35 posted on 06/26/2015 8:01:07 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Nachum
Interior Secretary Sally Jewell, whose department includes the BLM, says Bundy will eventually have to answer for what he owes the federal government, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reported.

Arrogant, clueless, delusional and ignorant, is no good way to go through life.
But then, that's the qualifications for being an official Obamobot.

Why do I visualize lampposts, every time similar government abuse stories appear?

Are all these people truly that clueless?

"Day of reckoning" and consequences don't exist in their alternate reality?

36 posted on 06/26/2015 8:47:32 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: wideawake
People are right to ask: Of all the freeloaders in the US, why has the government chosen this one in particular?
But he's still a freeloader and a crackpot.

ZUIT!!

There are 435+50 in Washington DC alone!

Plus 100,000 bureaucrats.

37 posted on 06/26/2015 8:53:01 AM PDT by publius911 (If you like Obamacare, You'll LOVE ObamaWeb.)
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To: Old Sarge

Thank you.


38 posted on 06/26/2015 9:37:37 AM PDT by sport
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To: Paulie
I’m still surprised how quickly we were dismantled over the last 6-9 months. I thought the Republican majority we sent to Congress in November would AT LEAST slow it down, if not stop and reverse our slide.

That is what we were told by members of this forum times too many to count. Maybe not in those exact words, but the meaning was clear. And should anyone differ with them, their reply was, Hillary thanks you, Obama thanks you, and they would begin with Hillary and start over again.

39 posted on 06/26/2015 9:55:34 AM PDT by sport
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To: Old Sarge

They don’t have to be purchased overseas - they are just way cheaper. Molycorp in Nevada has one of the largest rare earth mines in the world and it can’t make money because the markets are flooded with product.


40 posted on 06/26/2015 2:00:21 PM PDT by wideawake
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