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Army To Allow Hollowpoint Ammo For New Pistol
Granview Outdoors ^ | 7-16-15 | Christian Lowe

Posted on 07/20/2015 7:18:30 AM PDT by TurboZamboni

In a surprising break from decades of compliance with a 19th century treaty, the Army has said it will likely allow its troops to use hollow-point and frangible ammunition in its handguns, arguing the rounds are commonly used by law enforcement and for self defense and pose less of a risk to bystanders than fully jacketed rounds. The previous ban on the use of hollowpoint ammunition for military rifles and handguns stems from the first Hague Convention of 1899, where ammunition that “expand or flatten easily” was banned for use in war. Though the United States never ratified that part of the treaty, the U.S. military has generally complied with the restriction for its conventional forces. But as the Army is leading the way to a replacement for the 1980s-era Beretta M9 standard-issue handgun, service officials say they’re open to using hollowpoint ammunition as standard issue for the new XM-17 pistol. “There’s a myth that [hollowpoints] are prohibited in international armed conflict, but that doesn’t make any sense now,” Richard Jackson, the Army’s law of war expert, told Army Times newspaper. The new openness to issuing hollowpoint ammo to troops is “a significant reinterpretation of the legal standard,” he added.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 72virgins; 9mm; ammo; banglist; drt; hollowpoints; pistol
how will Obama stop this?
1 posted on 07/20/2015 7:18:30 AM PDT by TurboZamboni
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To: TurboZamboni

I’ve taken the time to dab just a bit of bacon grease on all of my at-the-ready ammo.


2 posted on 07/20/2015 7:22:53 AM PDT by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: TurboZamboni

The service already has several special-purpose 9mm rounds in the inventory, including 147 grain jacketed hollow-points. It’s authorized for special mission units such as the 75th Ranger Regiment as well as military-police units.

http://www.military.com/daily-news/2015/07/17/us-army-wants-hollow-point-ammo-for-new-pistol-not-for-the-m9.html


3 posted on 07/20/2015 7:24:26 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: TurboZamboni

Why would he want to? The hollowpoints are intended for use on US citizens.


4 posted on 07/20/2015 7:25:08 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Noumenon

LOL! Now an enterprising young fellow would create a case lube product for the ammo DIY aficionado that contained whatever percent bacon fat needed to invalidate a martyr’s trip to paradise. I’d probably put on it “Contains 10% Hogallah Juice!”


5 posted on 07/20/2015 7:27:09 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TurboZamboni

how will Obama stop this?

You can take this 2 ways , LOL


6 posted on 07/20/2015 7:28:02 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: Farmer Dean
Why would he want to? The hollowpoints are intended for use on US citizens.

Exactamundo. No AP or M855 for the plebians, but the Federales can shoot up a few Confederate Flag Wavers with hollowpoints, at will.

7 posted on 07/20/2015 7:38:53 AM PDT by Rodamala
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To: TurboZamboni

First rule of war:

There are no rules....................


8 posted on 07/20/2015 7:47:33 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Rodamala

This change will make for greater order fullfillment flexibility of DHS’s 1.3 Billion round ammo order.
Hollow point / non HP assortment ammo boxes for our alphabet agency overlords ;n)


9 posted on 07/20/2015 7:52:05 AM PDT by MarchonDC09122009 (When is our next march on DC? When have we had enough?)
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To: Red Badger

How about Military Bases in New Jersey?

HP is banned in NJ.


10 posted on 07/20/2015 8:17:09 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Not banned, but limited

http://www.njsp.org/about/fire_hollow.html


11 posted on 07/20/2015 8:28:43 AM PDT by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Federal law trumps state law in such cases.................


12 posted on 07/20/2015 8:39:57 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: Red Badger

I wasn’t really series.

But, it probably wouldn’t matter anyway. If they won’t arm the Military on the bases.


13 posted on 07/20/2015 8:48:12 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (Using 4th keyboard due to wearing out the "/" and "s" on the previous 3)
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They will probably get only one and have to keep it in their shirt pocket....................
14 posted on 07/20/2015 9:02:26 AM PDT by Red Badger (Man builds a ship in a bottle. God builds a universe in the palm of His hand.............)
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To: TurboZamboni

i guess we now know why DHS was buying hollow point rounds when they bought the 2.5+ billion rounds of ammo


15 posted on 07/20/2015 9:02:58 AM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Local laws do not apply to federal areas or personnel. If federal laws say military and federal law enforcement can carry hollowpoints, then they can.


16 posted on 07/20/2015 9:45:48 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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