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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

If you’re born here you should get a birth certificate. I really don’t see how Texas can get away with this.

I don’t like the anchor baby crap but being born here makes on a citizen. There’s no getting around it.


4 posted on 07/25/2015 9:02:24 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican (Since you're so much smarter than me, don't waste your time insulting me. I won't understand it.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Are children born of invading Mexicans truly “subject to the jurisdiction [US] thereof?”


6 posted on 07/25/2015 9:05:19 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Cancer-free since 1988! US out of UN! UN out of US!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

“There’s no getting around it.”
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Sure there is. Obama doesn’t obey laws that he doesn’t like.
Texas should do the same.


7 posted on 07/25/2015 9:11:03 PM PDT by july4thfreedomfoundation (Liberals are like the Taliban and ISIS....destroying cultural icons they don't like.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Diplomats of children born here are not citizens. They are not awarded U.S. Citizenship at birth and their consulates or embassies are expected to issue the proper documentation for their citizens. Why should illegal invaders be given citizenship? Certainly they are even less deserving since they are not legally in the country to begin with .

The 14th amendment was designed for freed slaves, not illegal invaders to use as a way of securing government largess for themselves and their offspring.


8 posted on 07/25/2015 9:11:06 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: VerySadAmerican

You are absolutely correct. Which is why we need to make repeal of the natural born citizenship clause in the 14th amendment an urgent priority. But sadly it is there, and it is crystal clear. Conservatives cannot preach respect for the rule of law and constitutional government while ignoring something this clear.

They are US citizens. It’s not right. But it’s the law. Texas needs to issue them birth certificates. End of discussion.


9 posted on 07/25/2015 9:12:04 PM PDT by NRx (An unrepentant champion of the old order and determined foe of damnable Whiggery in all its forms.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

What part of inadequate documentation are you not getting? Just wondering.


14 posted on 07/25/2015 9:23:54 PM PDT by Shimmer1 (An armed society is a polite society. Heinlein)
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To: VerySadAmerican
but being born here makes on a citizen. There’s no getting around it.

Ho ho ho, you are opening a can of worms there. /grin

Note: "without valid identification documents". That's not an insignificant point.

15 posted on 07/25/2015 9:27:09 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there....)
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To: VerySadAmerican

You’re really a sad American, you know that?


23 posted on 07/25/2015 9:51:23 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

An illegal alien’s offspring is not subject to the jurisdiction of the United States. If everyone born in the US is automatically a citizen, why would they even mention jurisdiction? They could have simply written, “Everyone born in the USA is a citizen!”


24 posted on 07/25/2015 9:56:58 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (Proverbs 14:34 Righteousness exalts a nation, but sin is a disgrace to any people.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Not citizens, not legal, no citizenship-giving birth certificates. Confirm information to their home country for them to issue a birth certificate. End the misuse of the 14th amendment. Good to see Texas taking a step in the right direction on this (even though they may lose in court).


26 posted on 07/25/2015 10:28:49 PM PDT by Reno89519 (American Lives Matter! US Citizen, Veteran, Conservative, Republican. I vote. Trump 2016.)
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To: VerySadAmerican

See my post no. 12.


32 posted on 07/25/2015 10:56:30 PM PDT by Marcella (TED CRUZ ; Prepping can save your life today.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
...being born here makes on[e] a citizen...

Where is that written?
38 posted on 07/25/2015 11:34:37 PM PDT by ComputerGuy (Powered by RAGE)
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To: VerySadAmerican

If you’re born here you should get a birth certificate. I really don’t see how Texas can get away with this.
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People born in Texas DO get birth certificates. They are done by the hospitals.

The illegals filing the suit have no documentation that proves their kids were born in Texas OR the US.


41 posted on 07/26/2015 2:02:01 AM PDT by octex
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To: VerySadAmerican

These US born anchor citizens are legally entitled to their birth certificates and could get them - when they are of legal age, or via a legally-appointed guardian.

The problem here comes with the parents, NOT US Citizens - ILLEGALS, in meeting their valid proof of identity and origin (i.e., the Texas State Department of Vital Records has said a Mexican consular ID is not an original and valid document).

I agree with the DVR. The kids can wait or they can get a guardian who is legal and provides the proper legal documents.


44 posted on 07/26/2015 4:18:00 AM PDT by Gaffer
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To: VerySadAmerican

“I don’t like the anchor baby crap but being born here makes on a citizen. There’s no getting around it.”

Not originally. “Anchor baby” is a relatively recent concept, and was created out of thin air, much like the “right to privacy” that was interpreted into the Constitution, but, of course, in actuality it isn’t there. They used that fictional Constitutional “right to privacy” to legalize abortion.


47 posted on 07/26/2015 4:51:07 AM PDT by ought-six (1u)
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To: VerySadAmerican

Sorry, but the 14th Amendment and Wong Arc make it clear that the parents must have legal US residency for there to be birthright citizenship for children.

Throughout US Law there is the principal that you cannot legally gain from an illegal act. Breaking immigration laws is therefore a reason for both the parents and the child to be denied citizenship........


49 posted on 07/26/2015 5:06:13 AM PDT by Forty-Niner (The barely bare berry bear formerly known as Ursus Arctos Horribilis.)
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To: VerySadAmerican
I don’t like the anchor baby crap but being born here makes on a citizen. There’s no getting around it.

Nonsense. "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" eliminates an invader's child's citizenship. These are foreign nationals. Their offspring are subject to Mexican jurisdiction, not American. If the Mexican Ambassador's wife gave birth in a NYC hospital, would anyone ever argue the child was American? Preposterous. All the more preposterous that a pregnant Mexican here ILLEGALLY, who merely spreads her legs and drops a baby a mile across the border has created a new American citizen.

52 posted on 07/26/2015 6:06:16 AM PDT by montag813 (Bring Back Tar and Feathers)
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To: VerySadAmerican
If you’re born here you should get a birth certificate.

Name another country that does this?

55 posted on 07/26/2015 6:27:51 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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