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How Long Will Trump’s Cathartic Candidacy for Fed-Up Conservatives Last?
National Review ^ | August 13, 2015 | Victor Davis Hanson Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/article/422463/donald-trump-republi

Posted on 08/13/2015 2:52:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife

Edited on 08/13/2015 6:49:24 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

The coarser and cruder Donald Trump becomes, and the more ill-informed on the issues he sounds, the more he coasts in the polls. Apparently, a few of his targets must be regarded as unsympathetically as their defamer.

Trump is rightly mocked for cynically spreading quid pro quo money around. But he quickly counters that his critics

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1 posted on 08/13/2015 2:52:58 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

There you go again. Can’t you find any good news about Walker to post? You are bordering on stalking.


2 posted on 08/13/2015 2:54:22 AM PDT by Catsrus (a and)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

he Wall Street Journal, or Obama Murdoch Looters Rag for Jeb published a poll which no one noticed or commented on. It has nothing to do with though Donald Trump’s support among Republicans, but the little factoid included that 19% of Democrats would vote for Donald Trump.

Round that to 20% and I have a little reality for you, in Ronald Reagan never pulled 20% of the rabid radical leftist vote out of the Democratic Party for his landslides, and Donald Trump in early polling is doing just that.

I desire you to forget all the bullshit steering polls of Trump loses to all democrats, and Jeb Bush wins. That is bullshit and you know it as much as everyone else does, because Jeb Bush will never pull 1% of anything from democrats, as they will never vote for him, and that marginal middle will never make up the diffference for a Jeb win.....and that includes Jeb Bush is NEVER going to move a Republican majority to the polls in such numbers that e vote flipping by Hillary will steal the election, exactly as Birther Obama stole two elections from John McCain and Mitt Romney. 10 million missing GOP voters are that margin and Jeb Bush running for President is going to have more than that number staying at home again, and not pissed off to revolt when Hillary steals this or whoever is on the left.

I have not mentioned that but Donald Trump has a group which is American enough, who will revolt. Meaning taking up arms and installing his Presidency if the cartel tries to install another Obama.

We return now to the numbers, Donald Trumps 20% of democratic voters. Do you realize that 20% of the democratic group is around 12 million votes. That pretty well negates any Hillary vote e flipping theft.

Let us run the numbers, in Hillary has the 62 million Obama flipped votes. Donald Trump has already taken 12 million of those votes, bringing her down to 50 million.
Donald Trump has fire in his campaign, and if it continues through like Ronald Reagan, this is going to ignite the Tea Party which has proven it will elect Congressional majorities in every district. 5 million voters will therefore show up to the polls or not be voting as I did for the Constitutional Party, but for Donald Trump instead.
Now factor in the reality that Donald Trump is also pulling in female voters, women are worried about the economy, their families, and their future security. They look at Donald Trump and know he cares for his family and knows how to prosper in tough times. The college kids having been cheated by illegitimate Obama and the GOP, are flocking to Donald Trump to in hope. This is a group, along with the 32% Latino vote who are trending Donald Trump.

Now bring the tallies up, Hillary and Donald or Donald and whoever have a 50 million vote base. Donald has taken 12 million from the democrats, that is 62 million. Donald Trump begins siphoning off Latins, Women and College Kids, that is another 8 million.
Hillary Clinton does not gain one vote. That is why there is the move to dump Hillary in she is tanking horridly. The Presidential 2016 AD elections in the year of our Lord numbers tally runs Donald Trump 70 million votes with Hillary Clinton or whoever at 42 million.

The information is being kept from you that Donald Trump has changed thee entire political dynamic in being Big East. The elections have been geared for mega California and New York always going liberal, with Florida and Texas splitting GOP. Then there are the swing states.
Donald Trump as a native of New York, puts the gem state into play. Hillary is a carpetbagger, and everyone else is not New York. Donald Trump takes New York and that means he builds an Electoral College block which blocks all these imported Mexican invaders.

Donald Trump restacks the deck and he wins in swing states, swings the liberal gem state, and wins in both the general election and the electoral college, in a landslide.

This is why the democratic billionaires are trying to get that latte liberal of Starbucks into the race to counter Donald Trump. If Hillary is tanked, then when the economy tanks, Elizabeth Warren is to be moved into the front slot and latte is to be the Vice President. It is the best the liberal billionaires can tally in response as the insider tracking polls are projecting Donald Trump by these margins trouncing Hillary Clinton.

For those who want proof of this, that is what is behind the get Hillary campaign in all these investigations. Bernie Sanders was a straw fossil. He was supposed to rah rah the democruds at the bottom of the barrel that Reid and Pelosi hate as much as Boehner and McConnell hate the Tea Party, and in the primaries Hillary would kick his ass, and they would come back on leash. That though has not worked out, as Americans on the right and the left have had enough Obama rape up the ass, Mexicaniziation and gayphilia.

The dynasty dynamics have changed everything in the cartel has bitch slapped the American psyche too much. The people on the left who though that Nig Luv, Anus Sex and Baby Butchering would make them pleased in Obamacrypt paying for it all, have found they are still the unsaved miserable people they were, and they do not want any more of it, as people on the right never signed up to anal rape ever.
That is why Donald Trump is a draw. He fires people on television. He is a billionaire. He is handsome. He has a hot wife, hot ex wives, and pretty children and they all love him.
When people piss on Donald Trump, he unloads the sewer system on his detractors and buries them.

Donald Trump is the kind of rich Americans like. He earned it and he wants other people rich too, and not leashing them for their votes.

Donald’s 20% of the democratic party puts him into the White House, because it is too large of motion that e vote theft will not work. His Tea Party is armed and will revolt if the election is stolen, as there is no way in hell Donald Trump will not drag this into court and fight it out, exposing it all. Donald Trump will take the GOP vote, as they are not going to vote for anyone else, and in this includes the Paulites and others who just want to believe in the American Dream, get rich and then feel not so guilty as Obama made them feel.

Donald’s 20 I believe will expand against any democratic contender. The GOP elite like bitching about a 3rd party run as the idiot liberals salivate over Donald in the GOP or the 3rd party run.......thing is Donald Trump is devastating the democratic voter base in a greater extent than Ronald Reagan ever accomplished. Donald Trump is at the horizon point of turning the democratic party into a 3rd party like the Green Party. That is what Donald’s 20 means.
Americans on the right and left stop voting for bullshit, and start voting in their own interests, instead of some fag dick up someone’s ass or how to steal money from others for their sins, and Donald Trump is going to change the entire political landscape.

Donald’s 20 has the opportunity to make him historical in Andrew Jackson or Ronald Reagan teflon imperialism in which great things could be accomplished for America and the world in taking America back for Americans.


3 posted on 08/13/2015 2:57:55 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
"Trump will fade when his brand of medicine becomes even worse than the disease."

The disease is gutless weaselry in the GOP and it has a terminal case. Trump is the cure.

4 posted on 08/13/2015 2:58:27 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Catsrus

The democratic process must play out. Trump is a phenomenon,
and the best any other viable conservative candidate can do, is skillfully align with him. What Ted Cruz us doing is perfect.

The Trump nay sayers will be left on the trash heap. That includes Jeb Bush who yesterday was booed down by the communist party’s “ Black Lives Matter” [ http://www.revcom.us] yesterday in Las Vegas, Jeb didn’t stand up to these Soros funded commies the way Trump or Cruz would have, and so that pretty much finishes Jeb as a viable nominee.[http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3324127/posts]

Trump is leading the charge, either get on board , or get out of the way. That’s the truth of it. Many will be left behind except for Cruz and a couple of others savvy enough to know whats going on.


5 posted on 08/13/2015 2:58:56 AM PDT by Candor7 (Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yesterday, I spoke with the Republican version of the low information voter. He’s a mechanic, very pro American, too busy and uneducated enough to follow anything closely. He’s very pro Trump. But on asking him why, I came to realize what he liked, and what is missing from the others is, nationalism. If any other candidate dared to tap into the nationalistic urge many of us have, they’d soar.


6 posted on 08/13/2015 3:01:00 AM PDT by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Trump advocacy is a half-a-loaf situation. When the alternative is to starve, suddenly the half loaf looks better.

However, the “We The People” have long entertained the false idea that they can turn affairs over to politicians and then go about their daily business oblivious to it except to vent from time to time in some forum (even this one) which is a tempest in a teapot and does not measurably impact affairs.

Trump, as bad as his background is, has at least breached the divide between the people and the government. There is a well of energy here that could, God permitting, influence affairs to better than what Trump is envisioning.


7 posted on 08/13/2015 3:03:29 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Candor7
Donald’s 20 has the opportunity to make him historical in Andrew Jackson or Ronald Reagan teflon imperialism in which great things could be accomplished for America and the world in taking America back for Americans.

A movement like this also has the potential to bring many other populists on board, and the average American is more "conservative" in personal philosophy than the modern American government.

8 posted on 08/13/2015 3:05:52 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

VDH never fails to hit the nail on the head.


9 posted on 08/13/2015 3:07:06 AM PDT by The_Victor (If all I want is a warm feeling, I should just wet my pants.)
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To: Gen.Blather

Maybe or maybe not. Most of the others just don’t have the fire in their bellies. They are too guarded, too coached and too politically correct. We have had nearly 7 years of being beat down, berated, belittled and had the boots of big government on our throats. We had landslide elections in Congress, for what? Those wishy, washy RINOs who lick oa\bama’s toes? They ignored us and misread the reasons they were elected - and that was to stop Obama’s agenda. Even now, they don’t get the Trump bruhaha - all they can do is call names and try to rationalize what they don’t understand - and never did. So, yeah, we are angry and fed up with the status quo, and the go along to get along congress critters who don’t listen to us or care about us. Trump is somewhat of a P.T. Barnum, but, I believe he does love this country and wants to see it prosper again. Sure,he doesn’t have all the specifics down yet, but, neither do any of the others. Those who are or have been governors can only talk about what they have done in their states. And, to be honest, they pad that resume too. The Seantors haven’t made much difference since their elections due to the so-called leadership. They have been stymied. But, still any one of them would be superior to what we now have. Americans are looking for someone - an alpha male - to try and get this country out of the mess she is in. The elites don’t get it and never will.


10 posted on 08/13/2015 3:09:02 AM PDT by Catsrus (a and)
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To: Catsrus

After Trump said he doesn’t support a flat tax rate:

“I actually believe that people as they make more and more money, can pay a higher percentage… I want to cut taxes, but I want to simplify the tax code. I want to make it great for the middle class.”

Only the most naive can support this and claim to be conservative.


11 posted on 08/13/2015 3:10:03 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Candor7

After Trump said he doesn’t support a flat tax rate:

“I actually believe that people as they make more and more money, can pay a higher percentage… I want to cut taxes, but I want to simplify the tax code. I want to make it great for the middle class.”

Only the most naive can support this and claim to be conservative.


12 posted on 08/13/2015 3:10:22 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

After Trump said he doesn’t support a flat tax rate:

“I actually believe that people as they make more and more money, can pay a higher percentage… I want to cut taxes, but I want to simplify the tax code. I want to make it great for the middle class.”

Only the most naïve can support this and claim to be conservative.


13 posted on 08/13/2015 3:10:49 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

After Trump said he doesn’t support a flat tax rate:

“I actually believe that people as they make more and more money, can pay a higher percentage… I want to cut taxes, but I want to simplify the tax code. I want to make it great for the middle class.”

Only the most naïve can support this and claim to be conservative.


14 posted on 08/13/2015 3:11:38 AM PDT by Erik Latranyi (Walker -- more conservative actions as governor than even Ronald Reagan!)
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To: Erik Latranyi

I don’t hear Trump talking about shrinking government and returning it to the state and local level.


15 posted on 08/13/2015 3:14:08 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Erik Latranyi

Your “conservatism” is powerless purity, however, if it is not combined with what it takes to get “some” motion away from where we are now. And connecting with the people, who by and large are more conservative than our current government, is CRUCIAL here.

There is too little to tell here. Is Trump envisioning a broader and less steep system than the current one? If so, it is still progress in the correct direction. Bringing skin into the game for everybody, even if it is less skin for the very poor, is a start. That way taxes are visible to everyone.


16 posted on 08/13/2015 3:16:12 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

A true populist movement will almost certainly pull Trump in that direction.

Try to take some time out from the carping to also “Watch and pray.” (And not “Dear God, please curse Donald Trump.”)


17 posted on 08/13/2015 3:17:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Trump is a fraud


18 posted on 08/13/2015 3:19:54 AM PDT by wolfman23601
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To: wolfman23601

Your idea of what politicians should do may be a fraud.


19 posted on 08/13/2015 3:20:50 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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The Left hyperventilated when Walker talked about curbing legal immigration.

Scott Walker’s turn against legal immigration shakes up 2016

20 posted on 08/13/2015 3:20:53 AM PDT by Cincinatus' Wife
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