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Black poverty differs from white poverty
Washington Post ^ | 12 August 2015 | Emily Badger

Posted on 08/14/2015 9:44:47 AM PDT by Army Air Corps

The poverty that poor African Americans experience is often different from the poverty of poor whites. It's more isolating and concentrated. It extends out the door of a family's home and occupies the entire neighborhood around it, touching the streets, the schools, the grocery stores.

A poor black family, in short, is much more likely than a poor white one to live in a neighborhood where many other families are poor, too, creating what sociologists call the "double burden" of poverty. The difference is stark in most major metropolitan areas, according to recent data analyzed by Rutgers University's Paul Jargowsky in a new report for the Century Foundation.

In five-year American Community Survey data from 2009-2013, more than a third of all poor African Americans in metropolitan Chicago live in high-poverty census tracts (where the poverty rate is above 40 percent). That number has gotten worse since 2000. And it's about 10 times higher than for poor whites.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: antiwhiteracism; blackkk; districtofcolumbia; housing; leftistpropaganda; poverty; redistribution; reparations; thugculture; tripe; washingtoncompost; washingtonpost; whiteprivilege
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To: ichabod1

some estimates are that in some states 30% of crime might be illegals


101 posted on 08/14/2015 11:50:34 AM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: JimRed
Point well taken. My family emigrated from the UK via the Mayflower and later in 1863 from Wales. I've visited the ancestral homeland. It wouldn't be a bad place to live, but it certainly isn't my homeland. My ancestors were here from the founding of the USA. This is home.
102 posted on 08/14/2015 11:54:38 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Chickensoup

It’s ironic. We have lived at this house for 13 years. We lived at our previous address across town for 22 years. We moved from THAT neighborhood to here for that very same reason. I ain’t moving again.....................


103 posted on 08/14/2015 11:55:25 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: GeronL

Tennis shoes on the power lines means drug dealers nearby........................


104 posted on 08/14/2015 11:56:09 AM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: Army Air Corps

Its true. Live in an area with many poor white families. They have big gardens. They fish and hunt to fill their freezer. Their is usually seasonal physical labor work available from farmers.
A.COUNTRY BOY CAN SURVIVE!


105 posted on 08/14/2015 11:58:56 AM PDT by hoosiermama (psalm 150;3 Praise him with the sound of the TRUMPet!)
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To: Red Badger

This stuff follows. If you can, move so you can keep some house value. it will drop quickly!


106 posted on 08/14/2015 12:00:18 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: GeronL

Just as Jesus said, “the poor you will always have with you...”. Virtually every Freeper was in this category for a short space in their lives. However, hard work, humility, and faith, helps us to climb out! Socialism is a bane to any civilization!!!


107 posted on 08/14/2015 12:00:47 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Then kindly keep this neighborhood cancer out of my neighborhood instead of metastasizing it with Section 8.

There is the nub of the problem. I don't want Section 8 tenants next to me either, but neither do I think concentrating and quarantining the poor is a good policy. One of the things we should surely have learned by now is that highly concentrated poverty compounds problems by creating neighborhood blight and undergirding a culture of poverty that normalizes dysfunction.

A "good side" and "bad side" of town are nothing new, but prior to the automobile, cities were much more compact. Neighborhoods tended to be more mixed economically, and most people of necessity lived close to jobs. The rural poor might have been quite isolated, but in the cities, even the very worst neighborhoods were within walking distance of jobs, which is why poor rural people flocked to the cities in search of opportunity.

The automobile created the problem of the left-behinds, which started the process of concentrating and isolating the poor. Then came the era of the projects. Even the liberals will now admit that big housing projects were unwise; if it were up to me, I would dig up LBJ and bury his remains in the rubble of Cabrini Green. We are now trying to recover more flexible housing options for the poor, but good luck finding a neighborhood that will accept scattered site housing without a fight.

I don't see an easy solution. As a thought experiment, I sometimes suggest that we revert to a pure free market, libertarian model. This means getting rid of occupancy and zoning rules. Suburbanites would have to accept group houses, rooming houses, and families doubling and tripling up on their quiet cul de sacs. And we would have to let developers build multi-family units in areas that would prefer to zone them out. Since I live in an historic district that would be rapidly destroyed if we allowed developers to do whatever the market demanded, I do not actually support this approach, but I do challenge suburbanites who hide behind exclusionary zoning and expect other people's neighborhoods to become the dumping grounds for the poor.

Every community is different and solutions are highly site specific. That is one reason why a big federal sledgehammer is not a very good idea. But I do think that people with humble jobs should be able to live reasonably close to their work. This is a reasonable planning and zoning objective. If that means Malibu has to find room somewhere for apartments for the gardeners, housekeepers, cooks, and store clerks -- not to mention the schoolteachers, policemen, and med techs who work in the hospital -- so be it.

108 posted on 08/14/2015 12:03:57 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Army Air Corps

Poverty sucks, so maybe blacks should STOP DOING THINGS THAT RESULT IN IT. Get an education, study hard, stay out of trouble, dont do drugs, dont have kids out of wedlock, GET A JOB. Follow these simple rules and you are almost guaranteed success. Hire-able blacks are in great demand from businesses, but they are hard to find.


109 posted on 08/14/2015 12:05:44 PM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Jan_Sobieski

I’ve always been poor.


110 posted on 08/14/2015 12:07:57 PM PDT by GeronL (Cruz is for real, 100%)
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To: Lizavetta
A simple observation at a college cafeteria will confirm that people prefer to associate with others like themselves. When you see a mix, it is because they have a common interest that transcends racial/ethnic bounds. My students at Southwestern College were a diverse group. They went to the class breaks together and enjoyed sharing their experience in my classroom. The same cafeteria during the daytime classes had tables that were definitely self-segregated by racial/ethnic boundaries of friends that didn't have a common classroom interest.
111 posted on 08/14/2015 12:08:11 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Army Air Corps

I call BS!


112 posted on 08/14/2015 12:09:07 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Of those born of women there is not risen one greater than John The Baptist.)
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To: hoosiermama
They fish and hunt to fill their freezer.

That is definitely a common theme in Idaho and Utah.

113 posted on 08/14/2015 12:12:50 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: GeronL

Blessed are the poor - Jesus Christ ;-)


114 posted on 08/14/2015 12:16:17 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Army Air Corps

Emily Badger has confused cause with effect.

First, ‘white’ doesn’t rub off...

Second, few of us are involved with more than 20 of our neighbors - IF THAT... How much money someone makes two blocks over from us has limited influence on us... any of us. Black or white.

The reason whites don’t want to live with inner city blacks is because of the way they act... not because of the color of their skin. People from India are often darker... it’s NOT color - it’s culture. Also, middle class blacks - when they get some money don’t want to live with inner city blacks either. They move up - they move out.

Check out the two black sisters backing Trump... they know the score.

Black inner city culture’s destructive... of blacks and their communities. It wasn’t that way before the liberal ideas of the 60’s destroyed the black family and kicked fathers out of homes, but it is that way today.


115 posted on 08/14/2015 12:17:05 PM PDT by GOPJ (Research facilities aren't using a million aborted babies a year. Where's the rest ?)
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Virtually every Freeper was in this category for a short space in their lives.

Amen! I can hum a few bars of that tune. Having been poor a time or two taught me valuable lessons about faith, people, perseverance, the value of being focused on a goal, the value of old-fashioned hard work, and maintaining a sense of humour about the ups and downs of life.
116 posted on 08/14/2015 12:19:30 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Chickensoup

Well, we may not have to move after all. There was an elementary school across the street up until a couple of years ago. It was closed down and the property was sold to a local developer. My wife once worked for him when he was a manager of a Winn-Dixie grocery store. He’s building 42 new houses on the property, $300k and up. The house across the cul-de-sac from us was bought by him and torn down and he built one there as a showcase for the development. The cops have been keeping an eye on the park and the thugs have been kinda scarce of late. Just this last Wednesday, I witnessed what I believe was a drug deal going down across the street in the park’s parking lot. An SUV waited until another car pulled in and backed into a parking space, then the SUV pulled along side of the other car in the adjacent parking space. They both opened their driver doors, thus concealing any actions that take place between them. The SUV driver got out, handed something to the other driver, he, in turn, handed something back, then he sped off. The SUV then left in the opposite direction. The whole deal took less than a minute................


117 posted on 08/14/2015 12:20:33 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: GOPJ; Army Air Corps
Emily Badger has confused cause with effect.

NOT TO BE CONFUSED WITH RED BADGER....................

118 posted on 08/14/2015 12:22:40 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: GOPJ

“Black inner city culture’s destructive... of blacks and their communities. It wasn’t that way before the liberal ideas of the 60’s destroyed the black family and kicked fathers out of homes, but it is that way today.

So true.

There was a black community in Cambridge,MA in which I often had to wait for a bus in the 40s and 50s ,often late at night.

I was a young white woman,usually alone, and I thought nothing of it. I felt perfectly safe.

Things sure have changed.

.


119 posted on 08/14/2015 12:27:41 PM PDT by Mears
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To: Jan_Sobieski
Blessed are the poor - Jesus Christ ;-)

True.

But Jesus was not too keen on drunkards, thieves, and fornicators, or the incorrigibly lazy, and I don't think he would have thought more highly of druggies either, had they been around in first century Palestine.

Since these behavioral issues are associated with, and largely drive, most of the poverty in the U.S. today, it is not intuitively clear to me what Jesus' policy portfolio would include. "Go and sin no more" might be a start, and no doubt this would solve most of the poverty problem, were it effectively implemented.

120 posted on 08/14/2015 12:38:50 PM PDT by sphinx
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