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Black poverty differs from white poverty
Washington Post ^ | 12 August 2015 | Emily Badger

Posted on 08/14/2015 9:44:47 AM PDT by Army Air Corps

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To: Red Badger

I hope not.

Had drug problems in a neighborhood I had some investment property in and invited the police to use my building. they ferretted out nests of druggies and it helped move that neighborhood into a positive location. Perhaps the developer can do that with the showcase house.


121 posted on 08/14/2015 12:42:47 PM PDT by Chickensoup (We lose our freedoms one surrender at a time)
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To: Army Air Corps
Poor whites, in most major metropolitan areas, are spread out. Poor African Americans are not

IOW, poor whites are smart enough to not live in poverty locked neighborhoods to provide a better environment for their kids.

we've designed communities to pen poverty in, restricting many poor African Americans in particular to a limited number of neighborhoods.

Hogwash. No one is keeping blacks there but themselves.

122 posted on 08/14/2015 12:45:55 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: sphinx

No disagreement here! I just wanted to encourage my Freeper friend. Besides, I think Jesus was actually talking MORE about “Poor in Spirit”, rather than “poor monetarily”.


123 posted on 08/14/2015 12:50:00 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Chickensoup

The entire neighborhood around me is slowly being redeveloped, one house at a time. As old folks die off and their houses come on the market, built circa 1960, they are being torn down and new modern homes built in their place. As the properties are being developed, the taxes of surrounding homes go up as well, so most of the rentals, which have a higher tax value, will be sold to the developers. You can tell who rents and who owns just by looking at the yards.............................


124 posted on 08/14/2015 1:00:04 PM PDT by Red Badger (READ MY LIPS: NO MORE BUSHES!...............)
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To: trisham

It’s only true.


125 posted on 08/14/2015 1:04:56 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("All the time live the truth with love in your heart." ~Fr. Ho Lung)
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To: sphinx
But I do think that people with humble jobs should be able to live reasonably close to their work. This is a reasonable planning and zoning objective. If that means Malibu has to find room somewhere for apartments for the gardeners, housekeepers, cooks, and store clerks -- not to mention the schoolteachers, policemen, and med techs who work in the hospital -- so be it.

A rule of thumb I heard while working in Colorado, many moons ago: "Those who work in Aspen don't live there."

People with humble jobs did once live close to their work. It was called, depending on setting, 'the servants' quarters' (urban), the 'bunkhouse', (farm/ranch) etc.

In the event people have to travel long distances to work some place, that should be factored into their compensation. It was the compensation factor (mileage, expenses), among other considerations which led to oil companies making provisions for living quarters for necessary third party service providers on drill sites onshore (offshore living quarters were a given because of access).

More rules (planning and zoning) will only complicate what should be a market driven factor.

126 posted on 08/14/2015 1:09:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: cherry

That poor rural white man brings to the table what he shoots. The poor urban black man leaves what he shoots in the streets.


127 posted on 08/14/2015 1:11:50 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Smokin' Joe

In college, I worked summers and one semester off at nearby mountain resorts. Everything was expensive, you could spend $10 on a hamburger there in the mid-80’s. They had employee housing, tucked away out of sight of the resort guests. Trailers. Nothing glamorous about them, but they were affordable, well-maintained and cheap. It was the only way the resort could find and keep quite a few decent employees. The other option was a thirty or more mile commute up and down very steep, curvy roads, for jobs that didn’t necessarily pay all much. I lived in their employee housing for that one semester. Winter winds made the metal roof flutter and crinkle, and they did rock a bit in very high winds. That was disconcerting, never having lived in a trailer before. But, it kept me warm and dry, was very affordable and was nearby.


128 posted on 08/14/2015 1:16:12 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: Jan_Sobieski
I vote we spend another 19 trillion on this war. I am certain that this will win the war!

We just did with raising the min wage for no skilled jobs. All that did was make everyone poorer due to the price of everything having to be raised to accommodate employee's wages. Stupid is as stupid does.

129 posted on 08/14/2015 1:26:51 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: sphinx
How to spread the burden, break up the big concentrations, and move poor people to neighborhoods with job opportunities, better schools, and less crime is a legitimate question.

That didn't work in Dallas, TX in the early 70s. They decided to bus the black kids to white schools and white kids to black schools. The white families left their nice quiet neighbors. The blacks moved into those nice quiet neighborhoods and turned them into just what they left behind.

130 posted on 08/14/2015 1:33:00 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: Smokin' Joe
I recall a Washington Post story some years back about a welfare mom who was tying to do the right thing. She lived in some mean corner of Anacostia and didn't have a car. That didn't stop her from finding a job. Getting to the job, however, required three busses and about three hours each way. She of course won the local Hero of the Week award, but whether she stuck with it and worked her way off welfare, I don't know.

That's an extreme but it illustrates the problem. If we spatially segregate the poor, at some point it takes heroic effort to break free. It is much easier to settle back into a ghettoized neighborhood and live on welfare like all the neighbors. That's a breeding ground for problems deeper than mere unemployment.

As I said in my earlier post, in a real free market in housing, we would abolish rules that restrict group houses, rooming houses, and multiple families doubling and tripling up in suburban neighborhoods. Some of this already happens, of course, if local officials are lax about enforcing the rules. You end up with the six Mexican laborers sharing the house across the street, and as long as they don't jack all their cars up in the yard at the same time, or party too often and too loudly at 3:00 a.m., they may get away with it.

I agree that markets would solve the problem if we let them. But when we systematically prohibit, or severely limit, market responses like the above, it seems reasonable to make other arrangements, lest we trap the poor in dead-end dumping grounds. Maybe the thing to do is simply blow up all the housing projects, and give poor people refundable vouchers.

131 posted on 08/14/2015 1:35:46 PM PDT by sphinx
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To: Army Air Corps

I love it when leftists try to lecture us whitey’s on how life would be more fair if only we give just a little bit more and we’re just a little more accommodating to the underclass blacks and browns of society.
These clowns are sick!
The trillions of dollars we’ve thrown away towards entitlement programs for them proves nothing will ever help them until they finally decide to help themselves.


132 posted on 08/14/2015 1:41:26 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (The Sun Never Sets on Liberal Idiocy)
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To: bgill

Yep! Socialist insanity...


133 posted on 08/14/2015 1:49:11 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: JimRed
America is their homeland

Do you refer to yourself as a hyphenated American like blacks do? Or call Ireland your motherland?

134 posted on 08/14/2015 1:49:31 PM PDT by bgill ( CDC site, "we still do not know exactly how people are infected with Ebola")
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To: RegulatorCountry

Here in the South, many, if not most of the poor blacks are rural.

Come on down to Alabama, and I’ll show you mile after mile of poor rural blacks.


135 posted on 08/14/2015 1:52:22 PM PDT by Alas Babylon! (As we say in the Air Force, "You know you're over the target when you start getting flak!")
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
The economic term for that is "delay gratification".

"Ceterum censeo 0bama esse delendam."

Garde la Foi, mes amis! Nous nous sommes les sauveurs de la République! Maintenant et Toujours!
(Keep the Faith, my friends! We are the saviors of the Republic! Now and Forever!)

LonePalm, le Républicain du verre cassé (The Broken Glass Republican)

136 posted on 08/14/2015 1:55:39 PM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: bgill
Do you refer to yourself as a hyphenated American like blacks do? Or call Ireland your motherland?

I believe I answered that in post #18.

137 posted on 08/14/2015 2:26:35 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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