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Levin: 'Completely False' That Children Born to Illegals Have Constitutional Right to Citizenship
CNS News ^ | 08/19/2015 | Michael Morris

Posted on 08/19/2015 11:44:28 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum

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To: Nep Nep
I’d say it’s arguable that the issuance of the immigrant visa is a conditional acceptance of the individual into the US jurisdiction.

But that's not what Levin said, nor did any of the sources he quoted make that distinction.

41 posted on 08/19/2015 12:41:06 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Mark is right.


42 posted on 08/19/2015 12:42:21 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here are Mark’s comments:

http://therightscoop.com/mark-levin-congress-can-end-birthright-citizenship-without-amending-the-constitution/

These classes of people, even if born here, are NOT American citizens under the Immigration and Naturalization Act of 1952:

a child born on American soil to a:

(1) foreign ambassador,
(2) head of state,
(3) foreign military prisoner

So what prevents Congress from simply adding another class of people to the list?


43 posted on 08/19/2015 12:44:15 PM PDT by TBP (Obama lies, Granny dies.)
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To: oldbrowser
The 14th Amendment was never meant to give a "get out of jail/deportation" card to illegal immigrants, nor to allow the children of such persons to be automatically granted citizenship.

In Wong Kim Ark the SCOTUS simply decided that the Chinese exclusion act could not be retroactively applied to someone who acquired citizenship by reason of birth within the United States, which was the law at the time of his birth.

In other words, the 14th Amendment does not require birthright citizenship. The Congress could act to exclude such cases if the corrupt, lying pieces of dung ever acted to do so. Indians and Puerto Ricans were not considered to have US citizenship until Congress passed a law granting them such, even though they were clearly "under the jurisdiction of the United States" in the ordinary sense.

44 posted on 08/19/2015 12:51:42 PM PDT by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens")
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To: BenLurkin
Don’t fall for the La Raza nonsense. Illegal are no “slaves.”

Never said they were. My point is that the 14th Amendment which is used create anchor babies is a direct result of slavery. Free labor to cheap labor....it's a tidy system.

45 posted on 08/19/2015 12:53:17 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Here’s a good background primer on this issue:

Birthright Citizenship in the United States: A Global Comparison
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3326736/posts


46 posted on 08/19/2015 12:53:28 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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To: GraceG

Tell that to Fox’s Shannon Bream, who has been subbing for Megan Kelleythis week. She calls the end of the 14th amendment (which she said she learned in school), needed to be abolished, when responding to Trump. And she didn’t see that happening.

Judge Napolitano was her guest and he concerred.


47 posted on 08/19/2015 12:56:02 PM PDT by lulu16 (May the Good Lord take a liking to you!)
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To: pierrem15

The mind reels at the sheer number of present day societal ills that came from our greedy ancestors’ hunger for free labor. Perhaps it is God’s judgement rendered for that sin.


48 posted on 08/19/2015 12:56:37 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: lulu16
Judge Napolitano was her guest and he concerred.

So did O'Reilly who isn't the sharpest knife in the drawer.

Levin makes sense to me. And it's also the commonsense position.

49 posted on 08/19/2015 1:01:47 PM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Nep Nep

Jindal’s parents were here on green cards, and his mom was pregnant with him at the time.


50 posted on 08/19/2015 1:14:02 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: RIghtwardHo
It is ABUNDANTLY clear that they do. Levin is flat wrong. I’ve done my share of SCOTUS and 4th Cir and E Dist arguments on Constitutional issues. The language is plain as day. Do I like it? Not at all. But there it is.

I'm not trying to be facetious, but why not ask who everyone agrees is a constitutional expert, Ted Cruz? And why is he quiet on this, so far? It would seem to me that he would be the go-to guy,

51 posted on 08/19/2015 1:14:23 PM PDT by Dartman (Canadian, eh. And proud of it.)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

I saw that. We need to push our gov’t to stop this madness!


52 posted on 08/19/2015 2:02:02 PM PDT by Rusty0604
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To: Will88

My parents were born to immigrants who were not naturalized at the time.

So my parents were never citizens, which in turn means I am not a citizen because I was born to non-citizens.

That probably happened to millions of our families.


53 posted on 08/19/2015 2:07:53 PM PDT by AlmaKing (It's Beer Thirty Somewhere)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

So maybe it needs to be re-stated that the children of freed American slaves are automatic citizens?


54 posted on 08/19/2015 2:13:17 PM PDT by Pajamajan ( Pray for our nation. Thank the Lord for everything you have. Don't wait. Do it today.)
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To: Theoria

I heard they were here on student visas, not green cards. Green cards take a long time to get and they come at the end of the immigration process... she was pregnant with him when they first arrived.


55 posted on 08/19/2015 2:20:10 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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To: AlmaKing

Many things have been done in the past, but the logical policy for citizenship going forward is extremely simple. Trump is right about the basic issues: if we can’t determine who becomes a citizen, then we don’t have a country.

In the modern world, this anchor baby scam is beyond ridiculous.


56 posted on 08/19/2015 2:28:31 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Rusty0604

I’m with you - it was never the intention...


57 posted on 08/19/2015 2:29:57 PM PDT by GOPJ (School-to-prison pipeline means gentle giants can choke and beat all the teachers they want.Greenfie)
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To: AlmaKing
My parents were born to immigrants who were not naturalized at the time.

That would not be an exception to what I wrote. A child born to parents who later became naturalized would only mean their children would be naturalized at the same time as the parents.

58 posted on 08/19/2015 2:34:27 PM PDT by Will88
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To: Nep Nep
'The most significant new piece of information is that the Jindals entered the United States on green cards secured not by the governor's mother, Raj Jindal, based on her LSU scholarship, but by his father, Amar Jindal, based on his training as an engineer.'
59 posted on 08/19/2015 2:42:03 PM PDT by Theoria (I should never have surrendered. I should have fought until I was the last man alive)
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To: Theoria

If green cards were handed out to people not already far along the immigration path by any means other than the lottery, that’s news to me. They certainly don’t hand out green cards like that anymore, and haven’t in decades at least.


60 posted on 08/19/2015 3:05:12 PM PDT by Nep Nep
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